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I gave Vista a one-month try. I am back to XP and soooo happy. I feel like
I have left a very dark place. Vista needs a lot of work. It was a constant
problem/worry. It is slow and quirky and not ready for prime time. I still
have my software and I will put it away for possible future use once
Microsoft develops an update to cure all the bugs.

It almost seems like with Vista, Microsoft was trying to imitate the Mac
operating system but they didnt do it nearly as well and frankly I don't like
the Mac operating system so much either. Microsoft should do its own thing
and do it well. Certainly they have the resources. Anyway thats just my
opinion and I am happy to be reuninted with XP. I didnt appreciate it till
it was gone. :-)

Jim
 
You are right....

and thats why I warn people not to trust vista so easily....

I would suggest you dual boot if you can... and see the difference in speed
and performance... You will see that XP is better in all aspects.

As for the people in here who worship vista blindly... what can I say?

I pitty them
 
Not everyone likes a Ferrari either. In your case, you did the right thing -
for the time being.

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Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
 
I have Vista in dual boot and try to use it every once in a while, also so
that upgrades and patches get applied.
Vista is just slow for many if not most tasks. Not a deal breaker but an
annoyance.
Hardware incompatibility is improving but some recent peripherals will never
get Vista drivers.
Many games do not run on Vista or run too slowly. While this only affects
gamers it reflects the significant problems in the structure of Vista.
Microsoft has no reason to get Direct X ten working since Vista cannot run
Direct X 9 games anyway.
In my experience Vista cannot stream audio/video from the internet without
constant interruptions to rebuffer. The same computer and others running XP
from the same internet source have no such problems. I know many people who
have tried Vista and abandoned it over this one issue.
Vista is dubious for critical graphics work as color management is
reportedly unstable due to a bug that deprofiles your monitor every time one
of those useless triple warning boxes comes up.
Did I mention those useless triple warning boxes?
And Apple recently uncovered another bug and, I presume, purposely exploited
that bug in its new "Vista compatible" Itunes download just to aggravate
Vista users. Vista apparently does not "register" the Visual Basic script
engine that is used by many installation programs. As such the new Vista
compatible Itunes will not install on many if not most Vista systems! Prior
Itunes versions will install (but may not run properly) on Vista so clearly
Apple did this on purpose.
What a hoot.
I use XP for most real work too: I have no choice.
 
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babaloo said:
I have Vista in dual boot and try to use it every once in a while, also so
that upgrades and patches get applied.
Vista is just slow for many if not most tasks. Not a deal breaker but an
annoyance.
Hardware incompatibility is improving but some recent peripherals will
never get Vista drivers.
Many games do not run on Vista or run too slowly. While this only affects
gamers it reflects the significant problems in the structure of Vista.
Click to expand...

No, it doesn't. What it does reflect is the fact that Vista spends a lot
more CPU cycles on security than XP did.
Microsoft has no reason to get Direct X ten working since Vista cannot run
Direct X 9 games anyway.
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Vista can certainly run DirectX9 games. And DirectX10 works - it's just the
ATI and nVidia implementations aren't yet perfect. nVidia seems to be
leading on this one - ATI's boards just came out and are somewhat
underwhelming...
In my experience Vista cannot stream audio/video from the internet without
constant interruptions to rebuffer. The same computer and others running
XP from the same internet source have no such problems. I know many people
who have tried Vista and abandoned it over this one issue.
Click to expand...

I haven't seen this issue. Do you have a specific url you could point me to
that would show this?
Vista is dubious for critical graphics work as color management is
reportedly unstable due to a bug that deprofiles your monitor every time
one of those useless triple warning boxes comes up.
Did I mention those useless triple warning boxes?
Click to expand...

What exactly do you mean by triple warning boxes?
And Apple recently uncovered another bug and, I presume, purposely
exploited that bug in its new "Vista compatible" Itunes download just to
aggravate Vista users. Vista apparently does not "register" the Visual
Basic script engine that is used by many installation programs. As such
the new Vista compatible Itunes will not install on many if not most Vista
systems! Prior Itunes versions will install (but may not run properly) on
Vista so clearly Apple did this on purpose.
Click to expand...

Why would Apple want to piss off their iTunes users? That's just stupid. On
the other hand, maybe Apple programmers can't handle Vista
programming...(Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately
explained by incompetence)
What a hoot.
I use XP for most real work too: I have no choice.
Click to expand...

What real work, exactly, can you do on XP but not on Vista?

Dana Cline - MCE MVP
 
Jim said:
I gave Vista a one-month try. I am back to XP and soooo happy. I feel like
I have left a very dark place. Vista needs a lot of work. It was a constant
problem/worry. It is slow and quirky and not ready for prime time. I still
have my software and I will put it away for possible future use once
Microsoft develops an update to cure all the bugs.

It almost seems like with Vista, Microsoft was trying to imitate the Mac
operating system but they didnt do it nearly as well and frankly I don't like
the Mac operating system so much either. Microsoft should do its own thing
and do it well. Certainly they have the resources. Anyway thats just my
opinion and I am happy to be reuninted with XP. I didnt appreciate it till
it was gone. :-)

Jim
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I'm going to make a few wild guesses here:

1) you installed Vista on old hardware.
2) you were "lost" when trying to navigate in Vista cause you actually
thought it was simply XP + eye candy.
3) you couldn't/wouldn't take the time to learn your way around Vista in
order to customize it to your liking.
4) you failed to realize that Vista is a completely new operating system
from Microsoft.
5) remember when apple completely changed mac's a few years ago and
pissed off their loyal following?

Time heals all wounds.
Frank
 
babaloo said:
I have Vista in dual boot and try to use it every once in a while, also so
that upgrades and patches get applied.
Vista is just slow for many if not most tasks. Not a deal breaker but an
annoyance.
Click to expand...

Especially if you don't upgrade your hardware.

Hardware incompatibility is improving but some recent peripherals will never
get Vista drivers.
Click to expand...

I wonder why?

Many games do not run on Vista or run too slowly. While this only affects
gamers it reflects the significant problems in the structure of Vista.
Microsoft has no reason to get Direct X ten working since Vista cannot run
Direct X 9 games anyway.
Click to expand...

Gamers (serious gamers) are bleeding edge computer users and will have
the latest hardware/software. DX10 vc's, etc.

In my experience Vista cannot stream audio/video from the internet without
constant interruptions to rebuffer. The same computer and others running XP
from the same internet source have no such problems. I know many people who
have tried Vista and abandoned it over this one issue.
Click to expand...

No shit! How about updating your hardware, hint...video card and this
"problem" easily goes away.

Vista is dubious for critical graphics work as color management is
reportedly unstable due to a bug that deprofiles your monitor every time one
of those useless triple warning boxes comes up.
Click to expand...

Our solution (we run color managed boxes as color is critical in our
line of work) was to get rid of the "warning boxes"

Did I mention those useless triple warning boxes?
Click to expand...

Did I mention getting rid of the "warning boxes"?
And Apple recently uncovered another bug and, I presume, purposely exploited
that bug in its new "Vista compatible" Itunes download just to aggravate
Vista users. Vista apparently does not "register" the Visual Basic script
engine that is used by many installation programs. As such the new Vista
compatible Itunes will not install on many if not most Vista systems! Prior
Itunes versions will install (but may not run properly) on Vista so clearly
Apple did this on purpose.
What a hoot.
Click to expand...

I'm glad business is not considered "war" aren't you?
I use XP for most real work too: I have no choice.
Click to expand...

We are switching all of our boxes from dual boot XP/Vista to strictly
Vista this weekend after months of on-line testing.
We too have choices.
Frank
 
4) you failed to realize that Vista is a completely new operating system
from Microsoft.

No it is not. At best, it could be described as XP R2
or XP SE.
WinXP in relation to Win98 was a completely new OS.


-Michael

* Frank:
 
gesh... you are wong on so many things.. but you also bore me so much that I
don't even have the will to find the info...

You should start research a bit by yourself MVP.. you cant expect me to keep
teaching you guys things...

what you are doing is called an uneducated guess
 
MICHAEL said:
4) you failed to realize that Vista is a completely new operating system
from Microsoft.

No it is not. At best, it could be described as XP R2
or XP SE.
WinXP in relation to Win98 was a completely new OS.
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Wrong! Sorry pal, but you just described and analogy that is correct. XP
to ME/WIN98 the big difference was how it used memory/resources.
Vista to XP the big difference is how it uses memory/resources.
It's a new OS, not simply an upgrade to XP!
Look it up if you don't believe me.
Frank
 
OK, Tiberius, I've had enough of your crap. Tell me where I'm wrong (and I
certainly may be, since I'm not you) or shut up...

Dana Cline - MCE MVP
 
* Frank:
Wrong! Sorry pal, but you just described and analogy that is correct. XP
to ME/WIN98 the big difference was how it used memory/resources.
Vista to XP the big difference is how it uses memory/resources.
It's a new OS, not simply an upgrade to XP!
Look it up if you don't believe me.
Frank
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How much of a code base did XP and Win98 share?
What's the lineage/roots of Win95 and Win98?

How much of a code base does XP and Vista share?
From what tree did XP and Vista sprout from?

How much Win98 software/drivers worked straight
up in XP? There's a lot of XP software, drivers, hardware
that actually works straight away in Vista, and without
having to use compatibility mode. Why is that?
If Vista was "completely new"(ground up), that would
*not* be the case.


-Michael
 
Well you are a wild ass little guesser there Frank. I built a new system for
Vista. I am a quick learner with over 20 years of experience with all
operating systems and a wide range of hardware. I spent hours learning Vista
and debugging hardware issues. Am I not entitled to my opinion that Vista
needs work? Why are you not allowing me to have an opinion Frank? Who made
you king of this list?
 
MICHAEL said:
If Vista was "completely new"(ground up), that would
*not* be the case.
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Sorry, but that's simply an incorrect assumption on your part. Vista is
a new OS. It is not just an "upgraded" XP.
Frank
 
Thou shall be no criticism of Vista or Microsoft in these here forums,
so saith Microsoft's many/mini minions.


-Michael

* Jim:
 
Jim said:
Well you are a wild ass little guesser there Frank. I built a new system for
Vista. I am a quick learner with over 20 years of experience with all
operating systems and a wide range of hardware. I spent hours learning Vista
and debugging hardware issues. Am I not entitled to my opinion that Vista
needs work? Why are you not allowing me to have an opinion Frank? Who made
you king of this list?

:
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Well jim...I can't seem to find where, in the past, you posted any
specific problems you where having with Vista.
Did you post them under a different name maybe?
That's why I "guessed" at your user experience based on your one blanket
statement.
Sorry about that.
Frank
 
* Frank:
Sorry, but that's simply an incorrect assumption on your part. Vista is
a new OS. It is not just an "upgraded" XP.
Frank
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Ela re hontro-malakas, it's a only "new" OS because Microsoft says so.


-Michael
 
pay no attention to Frank Jim.
as you may have already surmised, he's pretty much the village idiot in
these parts.
 
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