Quick Survey Of Site Users.RE:-IE7BETA

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Would all you regulars who come here often please take part in this by
answering 3 simple questions with a yes or no answer to each.
1. have you downloaded ie7 beta?
2.has it caused you problems?
3. is it still on your system?
Findings will be sent to microsoft because i believe no beta software should
be allowed to be used by consumers ,developers yes,techs yes but not us.
 
pcah said:
Would all you regulars who come here often please take part in this by
answering 3 simple questions with a yes or no answer to each.
1. have you downloaded ie7 beta?
2.has it caused you problems?
3. is it still on your system?
Findings will be sent to microsoft because i believe no beta software
should be allowed to be used by consumers ,developers yes,techs yes
but not us.
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Why shouldn't consumers use beta products?
 
Would all you regulars who come here often please take part in this by
answering 3 simple questions with a yes or no answer to each.
1. have you downloaded ie7 beta?
2.has it caused you problems?
3. is it still on your system?
Findings will be sent to microsoft because i believe no beta software should
be allowed to be used by consumers ,developers yes,techs yes but not us.
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1 - NO
2 - No
3 - No

I will not install a beta program on any production machine. I will not
install new RTM software on a production machine until it's been RTM for
at least 6 months.

All machines running Beta programs/OS are restricted to the labs for
their entire life cycle.
 
RE: "i believe no beta software should
be allowed to be used by consumers ,developers yes,techs yes but not us."

Thank you, I will sleep much better tonight knowing that you're watching out
for the danger of my use of Beta software.

(While you're telling M/S what to do, please advise them to block people who
don't know how to capitalize or use punctuation properly from this site.)

Milt
 
Today =?Utf-8?B?cGNhaA==?= commented courteously on the
subject at hand
Would all you regulars who come here often please take part
in this by answering 3 simple questions with a yes or no
answer to each.
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1. have you downloaded ie7 beta?

No, I am not crazy
2.has it caused you problems?
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None, and never will. Prevention always trumps a cure.
3. is it still on your system?
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Not that I noticed
Findings will be sent to microsoft because i believe no
beta software should be allowed to be used by consumers
,developers yes,techs yes but not us.
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Its good to know that you're a closet M$ shill and a troll

As to using beta software - anybody's - did somebody put an
gun to your head and make you download/install it? Who is the
dummy, you or the developer if software still under
development doesn't work right and causes problems.

I don't beta test for anyone, for what should be obvious
reasons. I also don't beta test with my Visa. I let the early
adopters find the bugs in v1.0 and lurk for quite a while
before deciding to update/upgrade.

Finally, being that explorer and Explorer are integral parts
of Windoze XP, shouldn't that give "normal" users pause that
beta code is dangerous? There actually are people that view
PCs as very fast, very sophisticated adding machines whose
/only purpose is to perform useful work for them.
 
Today Beck commented courteously on the subject at hand
Why shouldn't consumers use beta products?
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They should. Gives valuable feedback to the developer - for free
- and also provides profits for people writing utilities to
rescue you from your foolish self.

Just in passing, IE7 has been available for some time. What is
it about IE6 that needs fixing, other than Bill the Gates'
desire to build more of Windoze around the Wild Wild West and he
needs better "more secure" browser software to trick you into
believing him?
 
Today Leythos commented courteously on the subject at hand
I will not install a beta program on any production
machine. I will not install new RTM software on a
production machine until it's been RTM for at least 6
months.

All machines running Beta programs/OS are restricted to the
labs for their entire life cycle.
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At last, a sane person! And, to you, Leythos, I say "Amen!"
 
All said:
Today Beck commented courteously on the subject at hand


They should. Gives valuable feedback to the developer - for free
- and also provides profits for people writing utilities to
rescue you from your foolish self.
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The only fools are those who install beta software expecting them to work
fully without problems.
Just in passing, IE7 has been available for some time. What is
it about IE6 that needs fixing, other than Bill the Gates'
desire to build more of Windoze around the Wild Wild West and he
needs better "more secure" browser software to trick you into
believing him?
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Trick me into believing what? I have not made any comment about whether I
use that browser or not.
 
and to you milt,if you reply to a newsgroup question,please have the courtesy
to reply as instructed,not tangentise in your waffle.
 
pcah said:
Would all you regulars who come here often please take part in this by
answering 3 simple questions with a yes or no answer to each.
1. have you downloaded ie7 beta?
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No, and it irritates me that the first thing that pops in your when you
try to update IE is the stupid, annoying page to try IE 7 BETA.
2.has it caused you problems?
N/A

3. is it still on your system?
N/A

Findings will be sent to microsoft because i believe no beta software should
be allowed to be used by consumers ,developers yes,techs yes but not us.
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Many of us think so too. Good, and good luck.

Steve N.
 
Beck said:
Why shouldn't consumers use beta products?
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Because they are not

(drumroll please...)

BETA Testers!

They are consumers, most of which have no clue what BETA means. Consumer
machines are not a test environment.

Steve N.
 
1. Yes
2. The only problem I have noticed was that when I am in OE & I click on a link in a message, IE7 wouldn't ever open up & I had to cop & paste. However, today I started my laptop & lo & behold, IE7 worked as it should. I am using WP Professional SP2. I have checked for viruses with AVG Free, run Spybot as well as AdAware, but I don't think any of these programs have caused the problem.
3. Yes, it's still on my system & quite frankly it's going to stay there. I like the improvements to IE7 over IE6.
cheers
David
 
pcah said:
Would all you regulars who come here often please take part in this by
answering 3 simple questions with a yes or no answer to each.
1. have you downloaded ie7 beta?
Yes

2.has it caused you problems?
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No, although it isn't fully integrated with Windows Media Player.
3. is it still on your system?
Yes.

Findings will be sent to microsoft because i believe no beta software should
be allowed to be used by consumers ,developers yes,techs yes but not us.
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Then simply don't use it. No one's holding a gun to your head.
Microsoft provides public betas precisely because large numbers of
people outside professional IT circles like to try new things; and it
provides for a much wider base for feedback.


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Leythos said:
All machines running Beta programs/OS are restricted to the labs for
their entire life cycle.
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That's really not entirely realistic. A product that's never tested
anywhere but under controlled laboratory conditions hasn't really been
tested.

It's virtually impossible, unless the IT department has unlimited
funds, manpower, and other resources, for a "test" environment to truly
simulate a production environment. Sure, preliminary testing should be
done on an isolated system, and then moved to an isolated sub-network
of some sort. But once the product has tested fine in those two
situations, the next logical step is to place one or more test machines
(the actual number to be determined by the variety of different -
engineering vs. sales vs. manufacturing, etc. - environments and the
respective users' tolerance for pain) into the production environment.
There's no better way to see how the product being tested will truly
perform under normal, day-to-day use, in the hands of regular users.



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Bruce Chambers

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They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin
 
That's really not entirely realistic. A product that's never tested
anywhere but under controlled laboratory conditions hasn't really been
tested.

It's virtually impossible, unless the IT department has unlimited
funds, manpower, and other resources, for a "test" environment to truly
simulate a production environment.
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It's quite simple and doesn't require much in the way of resources. All
it takes is knowing how to mimic production - in the case of IE, you
need to test it on your spread of workstations, and a couple test
servers with the same level of patches and such.

As and example, years ago, when doing public websites, we tested against
Netscape 4.06, 4.5, IE 5, IE 6, and did this on Windows 98, 2000, XP and
did this to ensure that it would not cause any problems with those
browsers on each of those OS platforms. You can test enough to
reasonably sure that your production environment will not be impacted -
and you make small test production roll outs not a all-or-nothing roll
out.
 
Leythos said:
and you make small test production roll outs not a all-or-nothing roll
out.
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Isn't that what I said?


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