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Guest
Colin Barnhorst said:
It is if you have an HIS ATI Radeon X1650Pro AGP 256Mg video card which has
the Ati driver plus HYDRAVISION. Glass in Vista & Xp Sp2. Using it now !
I try hard to avoid posting here, but couldn't resist this one.
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It is if you have an HIS ATI Radeon X1650Pro AGP 256Mg video card which has
the Ati driver plus HYDRAVISION. Glass in Vista & Xp Sp2. Using it now !
I try hard to avoid posting here, but couldn't resist this one.
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Colin Barnhorst
It prevents you from using the license in a vm, but if you do not activate a
product key you have not yet done that.
product key you have not yet done that.
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Colin Barnhorst
So you are using Vista Home Basic on this machine?
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Guest
I don't correct my statements ! And yes, have tested all.
(exclude - Start-up & Enterprise).
(exclude - Start-up & Enterprise).
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Nancy Ward
I'll be getting the upgrade of whichever; however, I'll do a clean install.
Same product as the full version, except that you have to feed it a CD of XP
(most likely) to show proof of previous ownership.
I did upgrade Lappy from RC2 (5722) without issue, and everything seems to
be fine, but I'd not used the system all that much.
Same product as the full version, except that you have to feed it a CD of XP
(most likely) to show proof of previous ownership.
I did upgrade Lappy from RC2 (5722) without issue, and everything seems to
be fine, but I'd not used the system all that much.
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Nancy Ward
Hahaha . . . Actually, I expect most of those who beta tested Vista to go
with Ultimate, even though it costs a bunch more. I will probably be doing a
lot of graphics work, and don't think Home Premium will cut it.
with Ultimate, even though it costs a bunch more. I will probably be doing a
lot of graphics work, and don't think Home Premium will cut it.
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Nancy Ward
I'm not thinking Home Basic is in any way comparable to XP Home. It's very
crippled, and would be for those who only want to do email and surf the web
a bit. More likely Vista Home Premium will be comparable to XP Home and
Ultimate will compare with XP Pro.
crippled, and would be for those who only want to do email and surf the web
a bit. More likely Vista Home Premium will be comparable to XP Home and
Ultimate will compare with XP Pro.
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Kevin Young
Interesting take on it. The EULA says by using the software you are
accepting the terms of the License Agreement and goes on to state before you
use the software under a license, you must assign the license to one device.
So based on that I assumed, perhaps incorrectly, that you were operating
under the license agreement (no vm allowed in the home versions) as soon as
you used the software not once you had activated it. It is confusing though
because in the Mandatory Activation section of the license it states
Activation associates the use of a software with a specific device.
Looks like a person needs to be a lawyer to figure it out!
accepting the terms of the License Agreement and goes on to state before you
use the software under a license, you must assign the license to one device.
So based on that I assumed, perhaps incorrectly, that you were operating
under the license agreement (no vm allowed in the home versions) as soon as
you used the software not once you had activated it. It is confusing though
because in the Mandatory Activation section of the license it states
Activation associates the use of a software with a specific device.
Looks like a person needs to be a lawyer to figure it out!
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William
How do you have Glass in XP SP2? The only way I know of to have Glass in
XP is to run Stardock's Windowblinds 5.0 or higher.
XP is to run Stardock's Windowblinds 5.0 or higher.
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Guest
No Windowsblinds, no Vista Transformation packs, just HYDRAVISION.
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William
Unlike previous upgrade versions of Windows, with Vista you will need to
start the install from the Upgrade Edition of the DVD from within the
qualifying OS desktop.
start the install from the Upgrade Edition of the DVD from within the
qualifying OS desktop.
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William
From what I have read, Hydravision just does window and menu
transparencies. Not anything like Glass.
transparencies. Not anything like Glass.
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Colin Barnhorst
Sorry, Nancy, but that technique is no longer supported. You can boot with
the upgrade edition dvd but as soon as you enter the upgrade edition product
key you will directed to reboot the system and run Setup from the desktop.
When you run Setup from the desktop you will not be able to manipulate and
format partitions (the Advanced Options are not present). Vista upgrade
editions do not ask for shiny media.
You may be able to prepare a partition first and then boot into XP and do a
custom install to the formatted partition, but I am not certain of that.
Hopefully Darrell Gorter will get back to us soon with the answer to that
question, but a note on the Upgrade Matrix on GetReady says that is
possible. I just hope the content of that page is completely accurate.
Most likely you were able to do what you did because you were using a full
edition.
the upgrade edition dvd but as soon as you enter the upgrade edition product
key you will directed to reboot the system and run Setup from the desktop.
When you run Setup from the desktop you will not be able to manipulate and
format partitions (the Advanced Options are not present). Vista upgrade
editions do not ask for shiny media.
You may be able to prepare a partition first and then boot into XP and do a
custom install to the formatted partition, but I am not certain of that.
Hopefully Darrell Gorter will get back to us soon with the answer to that
question, but a note on the Upgrade Matrix on GetReady says that is
possible. I just hope the content of that page is completely accurate.
Most likely you were able to do what you did because you were using a full
edition.
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Colin Barnhorst
I agree. It was my thinking also that until activation the license is not
tied to the vm. Since the software cannot be used beyond 30 days unless
activated I think it would work. Obviously, if you have an Ultimate edition
pk and only load the other three editions in the vm, none of them can ever
be activated with the Ultimate edition pk and I suspect that it would all
come out in the wash. By the way, the host system doesn't matter. You
could do this on a Win2k or XP host and it wouldn't matter. You could move
the vm between host computers and it wouldn't matter.
tied to the vm. Since the software cannot be used beyond 30 days unless
activated I think it would work. Obviously, if you have an Ultimate edition
pk and only load the other three editions in the vm, none of them can ever
be activated with the Ultimate edition pk and I suspect that it would all
come out in the wash. By the way, the host system doesn't matter. You
could do this on a Win2k or XP host and it wouldn't matter. You could move
the vm between host computers and it wouldn't matter.
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Colin Barnhorst
I agree. Home Premium seems the best of XP Home and XP MCE. It seems to me
that Vista Home is something you get stuck with pre-installed on your new
computer if you weren't paying attention when you bought it.
that Vista Home is something you get stuck with pre-installed on your new
computer if you weren't paying attention when you bought it.
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Colin Barnhorst
What has Hydravision got to do with Glass? Or for that matter with the
Vista presentation layer?
Vista presentation layer?
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Guest
"What is Windows AERO?
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New **glass**, or *translucent effect* for Vista's *menus and desktop* "
The accent here is on 'transparency' (glass effect
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Sadly, **Glass** is not supported in Basic. A lot of folks are going to be
miffed
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New **glass**, or *translucent effect* for Vista's *menus and desktop* "
The accent here is on 'transparency' (glass effect
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Sadly, **Glass** is not supported in Basic. A lot of folks are going to be
miffed
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Colin Barnhorst
*Vista Home should read Vista Home Basic. Sorry.
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Scott
drygnfyre spake thusly on 12/16/2006 1:02 PM:
X64 Premium for me. I'm saving my $.
My fellow Linux users would have a fit if they heard.
I think the x86 (32-bit) edition of Home Premium will be the most
popular, although I intend to use Ultimate myself. I don't have a 64-bit
processor, though.
X64 Premium for me. I'm saving my $.
My fellow Linux users would have a fit if they heard.
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Colin Barnhorst
Aero is the standard Vista theme (like Luna for XP). Aero Glass is the 3D
desktop.
desktop.
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