Problem working with system color

[Mick Doherty]

Also,
is the form set as the startup object, or are you using a Sub Main()?

 

[Armin Zingler]

Also,
is the form set as the startup object, or are you using a Sub
Main()?

Some might think I'm a policeman, but some might agree with me: Why do you
quote the whole stuff just for writing one little sentence??? That's really
not necessary!

Please read:
http://learn.to/quote
(use the "English" link there)

Thanks in advance!

 

[Mick Doherty]

I presume you have done so since the code compiles and runs, but for the
benefit of others, I also forgot:
Add the following line to the top of your code,

Imports System.Runtime.InteropServices

 

[Cor]

Armin,

Don't bother about that policeman, the ones I saw of you are nowadays
helpfull, keep it in the way you did last weeks, it was very nice. (And the
one to day which Fergus did mention was also not wrong in my eyes, not like
last weeks but nothing wrong with)

Give Fergus some time he is just angry but he said not at you, so I think he
did make a mistake.

And now I know what you both mean with quoting. The strange thing was that
the link did not work, but when I did search for it on Google I found it.

My opinion is that it is one of the ways and you know what I think about
VB.net that is so nice is that everybody can do it on his own way.

Sometimes I get messages done in a Netscape way. People who are used to the
Outlook way hate that methode. This looks a little bit on a Netscape way to
me.
When I first visited this newsgroup I found it terrible.

But I think we will need a long time to agree about this kind of things. And
I try to do it in a way that fits everybody the best.



Cor

 

[Mick Doherty]

Anyone who reads my replies can see what it relates to, even if they have
previously read and deleted the message to which I am replying. Anyone
reading this message who has previously read and deleted the messages in
this thread will have no Idea what the discussion was about since you
deleted the content before replying.
Maybe you save all messages, but I delete all read messages, unless I have a
reason to keep them. Any replies I read are meaningless if I don't know the
question.

 

[Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]]

Anyone who reads my replies can see what it relates to, even if they have
previously read and deleted the message to which I am replying. Anyone
reading this message who has previously read and deleted the messages in
this thread will have no Idea what the discussion was about since you
deleted the content before replying.
Maybe you save all messages, but I delete all read messages, unless I have a
reason to keep them. Any replies I read are meaningless if I don't know the
question.

.... and anyone who reads all your articles has to download every article
several times in quoted form.

 

[Armin Zingler]

Anyone who reads my replies can see what it relates to, even if they
have previously read and deleted the message to which I am replying.
Anyone reading this message who has previously read and deleted the
messages in this thread will have no Idea what the discussion was
about since you deleted the content before replying.
Maybe you save all messages, but I delete all read messages, unless I
have a reason to keep them. Any replies I read are meaningless if I
don't know the question.

It is common practice to quote only the text you are referring to. That is
the reason why quotes are made at all. If somebody else deletes messages
that he/she is interested in later, it is definitely his/her own fault, but
for sure it is not yours or mine. Apart from this, it is impractical to
scroll and scroll and scroll down just to find out there is nothing new and
that there is no additional paragraph you are referring to. There are only
paragraphs that have been posted several times. In addition, if somebody is
really interested in, he can pull the referenced posts on demand directly
from the server or from google.

 

[Armin Zingler]

... and anyone who reads all your articles has to download every
article several times in quoted form.

This group really seems to be upside down sometimes. :-( (no blink)

 

[Mick Doherty]

That's a choice as far as I am concerned. You could always not download my
message at all. For those of you using automated Newsreaders I am sure you
can set up a Macro so that you do not download any message greater in size
than 2KB. I will continue to include the whole message as that is a
preference of mine. If you are not capable of adding a macro then add me to
your Blocked Senders list, I won't be offended.

 

[Mick Doherty]

Personally, I don't have a problem scrolling through a message. Because of
the Indentation, I can immediately pick out any new content.

There seems to be a lot of discussion in this Newsgroup that has nothing at
all to do with Visual Basic Net. Humorous as it may be, if all that stopped
then there would be a lot of messages every day that do not need
downloading. These messages are mostly written by the same small group of
people, who try to enforce a set of rules on others. Surely one of those
rules is that the content of your message should relate to the Group to
which you are posting.

 

[Armin Zingler]

Personally, I don't have a problem scrolling through a message.

But I do have a problem. Please notice that you are not alone in this group.

Because of the Indentation, I can immediately pick out any new
content.

Yes, but there was no new content.

There seems to be a lot of discussion in this Newsgroup that has
nothing at all to do with Visual Basic Net. Humorous as it may be, if
all that stopped then there would be a lot of messages every day that
do not need downloading. These messages are mostly written by the
same small group of people, who try to enforce a set of rules on
others. Surely one of those rules is that the content of your message
should relate to the Group to which you are posting.

If some people would start to think about their ignorant behavior, there was
no need for discussions. Unfortunaty, these people are often immune to
sensible suggestions.

 

[Mick Doherty]

If you have a problem scrolling through a message, then don't.
I know that I am not alone in this group. I also know that you are not the
Groups Nanny.

Did you notice how easy it was for you to see that there was no new content?

Why do you consider individual preference to be ignorant?
"Users should not have a choice, so don't give them one." Who's going to use
that App?

If you don't like my preferences then add me to your Blocked Senders list.
Problem solved.

Sorry! Should I have put these answers inline for you?

Don't bother to scroll past here as there is no new inline content

 

[Armin Zingler]

If you have a problem scrolling through a message, then don't.

In news.announce.newusers there's a link to

http://www.plig.net/nnq/nquote.html

Read the basics or keep being ignorant.

(Actually I want to write "Please read it.." but being friendly is
considered being unfriendly)

For me: EOT

 

[Mick Doherty]

The Introduction of that Documentation contains the following phrase:

[Please do not consider this to be a "regulatory" document ("Thou shalt do
it this way because we say so!"), but rather as an "advocacy" document]

I'm sure that if I spent enough time looking around I'd find some document
that suggests that you should not use inline replies since that causes the
reader to unnecessarily scroll through the message to see your responses.

Individuality is not a bad thing. I'll do it my way, you do it yours.

Agreed: EOT

 

[Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]]

That's a choice as far as I am concerned. You could always not download my
message at all.

This will require a lot of time. I don't want to _read_ every message
_before_ downloading it... This won't work.

For those of you using automated Newsreaders I am sure you
can set up a Macro so that you do not download any message greater in size
than 2KB.

I will loose lots of interesting messages when doing that.

I will continue to include the whole message as that is a
preference of mine. If you are not capable of adding a macro then add me to
your Blocked Senders list, I won't be offended.

I appreciate your comments, but don't forget users with a really slow
internet connection. Make their life easier.

 

[Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]]

If you have a problem scrolling through a message, then don't.
I know that I am not alone in this group. I also know that you are not the
Groups Nanny.

Did you notice how easy it was for you to see that there was no new content?

I think that Armin and I try to make work in the groups easier for
everybody. Even people with slow connection, buggy newsreaders, people
who have very few time. That's part of being member of a community. We
try to enable others to access the groups as fast as possible.

Why do you consider individual preference to be ignorant?

Individual preference is not ignorant "per se", but it's ignorant if it
prevents other people from enjoying something.

 

[Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]]

I'm sure that if I spent enough time looking around I'd find some document
that suggests that you should not use inline replies since that causes the
reader to unnecessarily scroll through the message to see your responses.

I am waiting for a link...

EOT

 

[Armin Zingler]

The Introduction of that Documentation contains the following
phrase:

[Please do not consider this to be a "regulatory" document ("Thou
shalt do it this way because we say so!"), but rather as an
"advocacy" document]

If you'd understand the content, you'd see why it *makes sense* to follow
the suggestions even *without* being forced.

 

[Mick Doherty]

Even with all that content my message was only 17KB. Most slow users have a
56Kbps connection so it would only take 2 secs. I don't see that as a
problem for anyone who really wants the answer supplied in the message.

 

[Mick Doherty]

You said: EOT. (although you conveniently cut that part out of your reply).

The Introduction of that Documentation contains the following
phrase:

[Please do not consider this to be a "regulatory" document ("Thou
shalt do it this way because we say so!"), but rather as an
"advocacy" document]

If you'd understand the content, you'd see why it *makes sense* to follow
the suggestions even *without* being forced.