problem with triple XP, VISTA, LINUX

H

Heimat

hello

I have set up triple boot box.
First I installed linux, then added vista, and last added xp.
Until XP all worked fine, booting using grub worked like a charm. But
after XP installation sth. went broke. Seems that XP installed its boot
related files to vista partition making it unuseable.

my partitions are:

/dev/hda1 (PRI) - linux /boot (ext3)
/dev/hda2 (PRI) - XP (ntfs)
/dev/hda3 (PRI) - Vista (ntfs)
/dev/hda4 (EXT)
/dev/hda5 (LOG) - linux / (ext3)
/dev/hda6 (LOG) - linux swap
/dev/hda7 (LOG) - linux /home (ext3)
/dev/hda8 (LOG) - linux /usr (ext3)

boot flag is set to hda1.
Linux works fine.

Code: 
rootnoverify(hd0,2)
makeactive
chainloader +1
boot

sequence starts XP (previously it started Vista as it tries to boot
system from /dev/hda3 (hd0,2) )

Code: 
rootnoverify(hd0,1)
makeactive
chainloader +1
boot

gives 'A kernel file is missing from the disk. Insert a system diskette
and restart the system' message instead of booting XP which is located
on /dev/hda2 (hd0,1).

I made an investigation mounting both NTFS partitions under linux and
found out that on XP partition I have only pagefile.sys.

Here's what I have on both partitions:
heimat@heimat ~ $ ls -al /mnt/vista
razem 721240
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 8192 lis 4 22:25 .
drwxr-xr-x 7 root root 4096 pa¼ 27 14:11 ..
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 24 lip 26 23:43 autoexec.bat
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4096 pa¼ 19 20:01 Boot
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 311 lis 4 22:37 boot.ini
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 435752 sie 30 11:38 bootmgr
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 8192 pa¼ 19 20:01 BOOTSECT.BAK
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 10 lip 26 23:43 config.sys
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 0 sie 30 02:35 Documents and Settings
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 737730560 lis 4 10:29 hiberfil.sys
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 0 lis 4 20:07 IO.SYS
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 0 lis 4 20:07 MSDOS.SYS
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 0 lis 4 20:43 msdownld.tmp
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 0 pa¼ 19 22:40 MSOCache
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 47564 sie 4 2004 NTDETECT.COM
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 250032 sie 4 2004 ntldr
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4096 pa¼ 25 15:35 ProgramData
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 8192 pa¼ 25 14:00 Program Files
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 0 pa¼ 19 10:16 $Recycle.Bin
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 20480 lis 4 20:11 System Volume Information
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4096 pa¼ 19 10:15 Users
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 16384 lis 4 10:30 Windows

heimat@heimat ~ $ ls -la /mnt/xp
razem 1081424
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4096 lis 4 22:25 .
drwxr-xr-x 7 root root 4096 pa¼ 27 14:11 ..
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4096 lis 4 20:18 Documents and Settings
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1107296256 lis 4 22:49 pagefile.sys
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4096 lis 4 21:04 Program Files
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 0 pa¼ 19 10:16 $RECYCLE.BIN
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4096 lis 4 20:16 System Volume Information
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 61440 lis 4 22:52 WINDOWS

XP was installed today evening (Nov 4) so it seems that all files
created that day on vista partition come from XP.

Now the question is: how to move them safely to XP partition and restore
VISTA?

After Vista installation /dev/hda3 was visible as C: and /dev/hda2 was
visible as D:, XP has not changed that.
Partitions were created using linux's fdisk, formated with mkfs.ntfs,
were not formatted againg during windows installations but seem to be in
order. XP set boot flag again to /dev/hda3

All help will be appreciated.

Thanks in advance
 
M

MicroFox

you should really use a 3rd party bootmanager!


Heimat said:
hello

I have set up triple boot box.
First I installed linux, then added vista, and last added xp.
Until XP all worked fine, booting using grub worked like a charm. But
after XP installation sth. went broke. Seems that XP installed its boot
related files to vista partition making it unuseable.

my partitions are:

/dev/hda1 (PRI) - linux /boot (ext3)
/dev/hda2 (PRI) - XP (ntfs)
/dev/hda3 (PRI) - Vista (ntfs)
/dev/hda4 (EXT)
/dev/hda5 (LOG) - linux / (ext3)
/dev/hda6 (LOG) - linux swap
/dev/hda7 (LOG) - linux /home (ext3)
/dev/hda8 (LOG) - linux /usr (ext3)

boot flag is set to hda1.
Linux works fine.

Code: 
rootnoverify(hd0,2)
makeactive
chainloader +1
boot

sequence starts XP (previously it started Vista as it tries to boot
system from /dev/hda3 (hd0,2) )

Code: 
rootnoverify(hd0,1)
makeactive
chainloader +1
boot

gives 'A kernel file is missing from the disk. Insert a system diskette
and restart the system' message instead of booting XP which is located
on /dev/hda2 (hd0,1).

I made an investigation mounting both NTFS partitions under linux and
found out that on XP partition I have only pagefile.sys.

Here's what I have on both partitions:
heimat@heimat ~ $ ls -al /mnt/vista
razem 721240
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 8192 lis 4 22:25 .
drwxr-xr-x 7 root root 4096 pa¼ 27 14:11 ..
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 24 lip 26 23:43 autoexec.bat
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4096 pa¼ 19 20:01 Boot
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 311 lis 4 22:37 boot.ini
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 435752 sie 30 11:38 bootmgr
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 8192 pa¼ 19 20:01 BOOTSECT.BAK
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 10 lip 26 23:43 config.sys
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 0 sie 30 02:35 Documents and Settings
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 737730560 lis 4 10:29 hiberfil.sys
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 0 lis 4 20:07 IO.SYS
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 0 lis 4 20:07 MSDOS.SYS
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 0 lis 4 20:43 msdownld.tmp
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 0 pa¼ 19 22:40 MSOCache
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 47564 sie 4 2004 NTDETECT.COM
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 250032 sie 4 2004 ntldr
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4096 pa¼ 25 15:35 ProgramData
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 8192 pa¼ 25 14:00 Program Files
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 0 pa¼ 19 10:16 $Recycle.Bin
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 20480 lis 4 20:11 System Volume Information
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4096 pa¼ 19 10:15 Users
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 16384 lis 4 10:30 Windows

heimat@heimat ~ $ ls -la /mnt/xp
razem 1081424
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4096 lis 4 22:25 .
drwxr-xr-x 7 root root 4096 pa¼ 27 14:11 ..
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4096 lis 4 20:18 Documents and Settings
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1107296256 lis 4 22:49 pagefile.sys
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4096 lis 4 21:04 Program Files
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 0 pa¼ 19 10:16 $RECYCLE.BIN
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4096 lis 4 20:16 System Volume Information
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 61440 lis 4 22:52 WINDOWS

XP was installed today evening (Nov 4) so it seems that all files
created that day on vista partition come from XP.

Now the question is: how to move them safely to XP partition and restore
VISTA?

After Vista installation /dev/hda3 was visible as C: and /dev/hda2 was
visible as D:, XP has not changed that.
Partitions were created using linux's fdisk, formated with mkfs.ntfs,
were not formatted againg during windows installations but seem to be in
order. XP set boot flag again to /dev/hda3

All help will be appreciated.

Thanks in advance
Click to expand...
 
C

CS

On Sat, 04 Nov 2006 23:34:01 +0100, Heimat

The proper way to setup a triple boot is first install XP, then Vista,
and lastly your Linux distro. Install GRUB to the MBR. Or: use a
boot manager such as Bootit Next Generation from
www.terabyteunlimited.com and chain load each OS using the boot
manager.
I have set up triple boot box.
First I installed linux, then added vista, and last added xp.
Until XP all worked fine, booting using grub worked like a charm. But
after XP installation sth. went broke. Seems that XP installed its boot
related files to vista partition making it unuseable.

my partitions are:

/dev/hda1 (PRI) - linux /boot (ext3)
/dev/hda2 (PRI) - XP (ntfs)
/dev/hda3 (PRI) - Vista (ntfs)
/dev/hda4 (EXT)
/dev/hda5 (LOG) - linux / (ext3)
/dev/hda6 (LOG) - linux swap
/dev/hda7 (LOG) - linux /home (ext3)
/dev/hda8 (LOG) - linux /usr (ext3)

boot flag is set to hda1.
Linux works fine.

Code: 
rootnoverify(hd0,2)
makeactive
chainloader +1
boot

sequence starts XP (previously it started Vista as it tries to boot
system from /dev/hda3 (hd0,2) )

Code: 
rootnoverify(hd0,1)
makeactive
chainloader +1
boot

gives 'A kernel file is missing from the disk. Insert a system diskette
and restart the system' message instead of booting XP which is located
on /dev/hda2 (hd0,1).

I made an investigation mounting both NTFS partitions under linux and
found out that on XP partition I have only pagefile.sys.

Here's what I have on both partitions:
heimat@heimat ~ $ ls -al /mnt/vista
razem 721240
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 8192 lis 4 22:25 .
drwxr-xr-x 7 root root 4096 pa¼ 27 14:11 ..
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 24 lip 26 23:43 autoexec.bat
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4096 pa¼ 19 20:01 Boot
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 311 lis 4 22:37 boot.ini
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 435752 sie 30 11:38 bootmgr
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 8192 pa¼ 19 20:01 BOOTSECT.BAK
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 10 lip 26 23:43 config.sys
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 0 sie 30 02:35 Documents and Settings
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 737730560 lis 4 10:29 hiberfil.sys
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 0 lis 4 20:07 IO.SYS
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 0 lis 4 20:07 MSDOS.SYS
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 0 lis 4 20:43 msdownld.tmp
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 0 pa¼ 19 22:40 MSOCache
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 47564 sie 4 2004 NTDETECT.COM
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 250032 sie 4 2004 ntldr
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4096 pa¼ 25 15:35 ProgramData
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 8192 pa¼ 25 14:00 Program Files
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 0 pa¼ 19 10:16 $Recycle.Bin
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 20480 lis 4 20:11 System Volume Information
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4096 pa¼ 19 10:15 Users
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 16384 lis 4 10:30 Windows

heimat@heimat ~ $ ls -la /mnt/xp
razem 1081424
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4096 lis 4 22:25 .
drwxr-xr-x 7 root root 4096 pa¼ 27 14:11 ..
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4096 lis 4 20:18 Documents and Settings
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1107296256 lis 4 22:49 pagefile.sys
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4096 lis 4 21:04 Program Files
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 0 pa¼ 19 10:16 $RECYCLE.BIN
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4096 lis 4 20:16 System Volume Information
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 61440 lis 4 22:52 WINDOWS

XP was installed today evening (Nov 4) so it seems that all files
created that day on vista partition come from XP.

Now the question is: how to move them safely to XP partition and restore
VISTA?

After Vista installation /dev/hda3 was visible as C: and /dev/hda2 was
visible as D:, XP has not changed that.
Partitions were created using linux's fdisk, formated with mkfs.ntfs,
were not formatted againg during windows installations but seem to be in
order. XP set boot flag again to /dev/hda3

All help will be appreciated.

Thanks in advance
Click to expand...
 
A

arachnid

On Sat, 04 Nov 2006 23:34:01 +0100, Heimat

The proper way to setup a triple boot is first install XP, then Vista, and
lastly your Linux distro. Install GRUB to the MBR. Or: use a boot
manager such as Bootit Next Generation from www.terabyteunlimited.com and
chain load each OS using the boot manager.
Click to expand...

XOSL is free and readily findable on google. Personally I like grub, but
to each their own.
 
H

Heimat

MicroFox napisał(a):
you should really use a 3rd party bootmanager!


Heimat said:
hello

I have set up triple boot box.
First I installed linux, then added vista, and last added xp.
Until XP all worked fine, booting using grub worked like a charm. But
after XP installation sth. went broke. Seems that XP installed its boot
related files to vista partition making it unuseable.

my partitions are:

/dev/hda1 (PRI) - linux /boot (ext3)
/dev/hda2 (PRI) - XP (ntfs)
/dev/hda3 (PRI) - Vista (ntfs)
/dev/hda4 (EXT)
/dev/hda5 (LOG) - linux / (ext3)
/dev/hda6 (LOG) - linux swap
/dev/hda7 (LOG) - linux /home (ext3)
/dev/hda8 (LOG) - linux /usr (ext3)

boot flag is set to hda1.
Linux works fine.

Code: 
rootnoverify(hd0,2)
makeactive
chainloader +1
boot

sequence starts XP (previously it started Vista as it tries to boot
system from /dev/hda3 (hd0,2) )

Code: 
rootnoverify(hd0,1)
makeactive
chainloader +1
boot

gives 'A kernel file is missing from the disk. Insert a system diskette
and restart the system' message instead of booting XP which is located
on /dev/hda2 (hd0,1).

I made an investigation mounting both NTFS partitions under linux and
found out that on XP partition I have only pagefile.sys.

Here's what I have on both partitions:
heimat@heimat ~ $ ls -al /mnt/vista
razem 721240
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 8192 lis 4 22:25 .
drwxr-xr-x 7 root root 4096 pa� 27 14:11 ..
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 24 lip 26 23:43 autoexec.bat
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4096 pa� 19 20:01 Boot
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 311 lis 4 22:37 boot.ini
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 435752 sie 30 11:38 bootmgr
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 8192 pa� 19 20:01 BOOTSECT.BAK
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 10 lip 26 23:43 config.sys
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 0 sie 30 02:35 Documents and Settings
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 737730560 lis 4 10:29 hiberfil.sys
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 0 lis 4 20:07 IO.SYS
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 0 lis 4 20:07 MSDOS.SYS
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 0 lis 4 20:43 msdownld.tmp
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 0 pa� 19 22:40 MSOCache
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 47564 sie 4 2004 NTDETECT.COM
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 250032 sie 4 2004 ntldr
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4096 pa� 25 15:35 ProgramData
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 8192 pa� 25 14:00 Program Files
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 0 pa� 19 10:16 $Recycle.Bin
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 20480 lis 4 20:11 System Volume Information
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4096 pa� 19 10:15 Users
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 16384 lis 4 10:30 Windows

heimat@heimat ~ $ ls -la /mnt/xp
razem 1081424
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4096 lis 4 22:25 .
drwxr-xr-x 7 root root 4096 pa� 27 14:11 ..
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4096 lis 4 20:18 Documents and Settings
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1107296256 lis 4 22:49 pagefile.sys
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4096 lis 4 21:04 Program Files
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 0 pa� 19 10:16 $RECYCLE.BIN
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4096 lis 4 20:16 System Volume Information
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 61440 lis 4 22:52 WINDOWS

XP was installed today evening (Nov 4) so it seems that all files
created that day on vista partition come from XP.

Now the question is: how to move them safely to XP partition and restore
VISTA?

After Vista installation /dev/hda3 was visible as C: and /dev/hda2 was
visible as D:, XP has not changed that.
Partitions were created using linux's fdisk, formated with mkfs.ntfs,
were not formatted againg during windows installations but seem to be in
order. XP set boot flag again to /dev/hda3

All help will be appreciated.

Thanks in advance
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
I DO USE grub.
problem is XP put its files on vista partition, not boot manager...
 
H

Heimat

Heimat napisa³(a):
hello
[...]
Click to expand...
you have misunderstood me. Problem is that windows XP put its boot
realted files on VISTA partition insted of partition designated for xp
(probably overwriting some vista files).
 
M

MicroFox

when I say third party.. I mean not the one from linux and not the one from
vista..

a seperate program that will handle everything....

you can see this, I have not tried it on vista though..

www.osloader.com



Heimat said:
MicroFox napisal(a):
you should really use a 3rd party bootmanager!


Heimat said:
hello

I have set up triple boot box.
First I installed linux, then added vista, and last added xp.
Until XP all worked fine, booting using grub worked like a charm. But
after XP installation sth. went broke. Seems that XP installed its boot
related files to vista partition making it unuseable.

my partitions are:

/dev/hda1 (PRI) - linux /boot (ext3)
/dev/hda2 (PRI) - XP (ntfs)
/dev/hda3 (PRI) - Vista (ntfs)
/dev/hda4 (EXT)
/dev/hda5 (LOG) - linux / (ext3)
/dev/hda6 (LOG) - linux swap
/dev/hda7 (LOG) - linux /home (ext3)
/dev/hda8 (LOG) - linux /usr (ext3)

boot flag is set to hda1.
Linux works fine.

Code: 
rootnoverify(hd0,2)
makeactive
chainloader +1
boot

sequence starts XP (previously it started Vista as it tries to boot
system from /dev/hda3 (hd0,2) )

Code: 
rootnoverify(hd0,1)
makeactive
chainloader +1
boot

gives 'A kernel file is missing from the disk. Insert a system diskette
and restart the system' message instead of booting XP which is located
on /dev/hda2 (hd0,1).

I made an investigation mounting both NTFS partitions under linux and
found out that on XP partition I have only pagefile.sys.

Here's what I have on both partitions:
heimat@heimat ~ $ ls -al /mnt/vista
razem 721240
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 8192 lis 4 22:25 .
drwxr-xr-x 7 root root 4096 pa? 27 14:11 ..
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 24 lip 26 23:43 autoexec.bat
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4096 pa? 19 20:01 Boot
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 311 lis 4 22:37 boot.ini
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 435752 sie 30 11:38 bootmgr
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 8192 pa? 19 20:01 BOOTSECT.BAK
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 10 lip 26 23:43 config.sys
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 0 sie 30 02:35 Documents and Settings
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 737730560 lis 4 10:29 hiberfil.sys
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 0 lis 4 20:07 IO.SYS
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 0 lis 4 20:07 MSDOS.SYS
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 0 lis 4 20:43 msdownld.tmp
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 0 pa? 19 22:40 MSOCache
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 47564 sie 4 2004 NTDETECT.COM
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 250032 sie 4 2004 ntldr
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4096 pa? 25 15:35 ProgramData
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 8192 pa? 25 14:00 Program Files
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 0 pa? 19 10:16 $Recycle.Bin
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 20480 lis 4 20:11 System Volume Information
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4096 pa? 19 10:15 Users
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 16384 lis 4 10:30 Windows

heimat@heimat ~ $ ls -la /mnt/xp
razem 1081424
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4096 lis 4 22:25 .
drwxr-xr-x 7 root root 4096 pa? 27 14:11 ..
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4096 lis 4 20:18 Documents and Settings
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1107296256 lis 4 22:49 pagefile.sys
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4096 lis 4 21:04 Program Files
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 0 pa? 19 10:16 $RECYCLE.BIN
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4096 lis 4 20:16 System Volume Information
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 61440 lis 4 22:52 WINDOWS

XP was installed today evening (Nov 4) so it seems that all files
created that day on vista partition come from XP.

Now the question is: how to move them safely to XP partition and restore
VISTA?

After Vista installation /dev/hda3 was visible as C: and /dev/hda2 was
visible as D:, XP has not changed that.
Partitions were created using linux's fdisk, formated with mkfs.ntfs,
were not formatted againg during windows installations but seem to be in
order. XP set boot flag again to /dev/hda3

All help will be appreciated.

Thanks in advance
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
I DO USE grub.
problem is XP put its files on vista partition, not boot manager...
Click to expand...
 
G

G.T.

MicroFox said:
when I say third party.. I mean not the one from linux and not the one from
vista..
Click to expand...

GRUB is 3rd party and OS agnostic.

But for that matter I just use ntloader for my multiboot needs.

Greg
 
S

Shenan Stanley

MicroFox said:
when I say third party.. I mean not the one from linux and not the
one from vista..
Click to expand...

G.T. said:
GRUB is 3rd party and OS agnostic.
Click to expand...

True True...
"GRand Unified Bootloader (GRUB) is a multiboot boot loader. It was
originally designed and implemented by Erich Stefan Boleyn."
 
N

Nina DiBoy

Heimat said:
hello

I have set up triple boot box.
First I installed linux, then added vista, and last added xp.
Until XP all worked fine, booting using grub worked like a charm. But
after XP installation sth. went broke. Seems that XP installed its boot
related files to vista partition making it unuseable.
Click to expand...

Hi Heimat.

Try loading OSes in the following order:
- all XP
- all Vista
- all linux

And use a linux boot loader (such as grub or lilo) to multiboot. Good luck.
 
M

MicroFox

Sorry.. I know grub only from linux distributions.. but I guess as an open
source
it can be installed separately
 

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