Problem with new LCD monitor? Video card? Or no problem at all?

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Larc

I've always relied on CRT monitors until a couple of weeks ago and have had
limited hands-on experience with LCDs, so I admit I may be more in need of LCD
"education" than in help with what may or may not be a problem. Anyway, I
couldn't think of a better place to ask than here.

First, my video card is a Matrox P650 with latest drivers and my LCD monitor is
an NEC 90GX2 (19"). Connection is digital via the NEC-supplied DVI-D cable.
ClearType is turned on and adjusted with the Microsoft ClearType Power Toy.

One problem is that I'm seeing a slight color "halo" (mostly red) in some text
letters, especially when there are parallel verticals such as h, m, n, u and
even ll among others. When text is very small (6 point or less), all verticals
tend to be greenish. Maybe this is typical of LCD, but it certainly isn't of
CRT unless there's a serious convergence problem. I checked convergence on my
LCD using Nokia Monitor Test and have never seen a more perfect convergence
grid.

The second problem — and this is one that makes me suspect the video card — is
that text has a very slightly "raggedy" appearance even with ClearType turned
on. That was what started me thinking about replacing my old Viewsonic CRT with
an LCD. Even though turning on Matrox Glyph Anti-Aliasing had helped, there was
still a less-than-smooth look to letters in text, especially those with curves.
And it was something that had happened rather suddenly, or at least I started
noticing it suddenly when I opened a TrueType font for examination as I had done
hundreds of times before with nothing amiss. I had hoped the LCD monitor would
get rid of that problem, but it hasn't.

Maybe the color problem and the raggedy font problem aren't connected. I hope
some of the expertise here can help me get it all sorted out. Thanks for your
opinions.

Larc



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Dave

Larc said:
I've always relied on CRT monitors until a couple of weeks ago and have
had
limited hands-on experience with LCDs, so I admit I may be more in need of
LCD
"education" than in help with what may or may not be a problem. Anyway, I
couldn't think of a better place to ask than here.

First, my video card is a Matrox P650 with latest drivers and my LCD
monitor is
an NEC 90GX2 (19"). Connection is digital via the NEC-supplied DVI-D
cable.
ClearType is turned on and adjusted with the Microsoft ClearType Power
Toy.

One problem is that I'm seeing a slight color "halo" (mostly red) in some
text
letters, especially when there are parallel verticals such as h, m, n, u
and
even ll among others. When text is very small (6 point or less), all
verticals
tend to be greenish. Maybe this is typical of LCD, but it certainly isn't
of
CRT unless there's a serious convergence problem. I checked convergence
on my
LCD using Nokia Monitor Test and have never seen a more perfect
convergence
grid.

The second problem - and this is one that makes me suspect the video
card - is
that text has a very slightly "raggedy" appearance even with ClearType
turned
on. That was what started me thinking about replacing my old Viewsonic
CRT with
an LCD. Even though turning on Matrox Glyph Anti-Aliasing had helped,
there was
still a less-than-smooth look to letters in text, especially those with
curves.
And it was something that had happened rather suddenly, or at least I
started
noticing it suddenly when I opened a TrueType font for examination as I
had done
hundreds of times before with nothing amiss. I had hoped the LCD monitor
would
get rid of that problem, but it hasn't.

Maybe the color problem and the raggedy font problem aren't connected. I
hope
some of the expertise here can help me get it all sorted out. Thanks for
your
opinions.

Larc

Your video card is set to 1,280-by-1,024, RIGHT? If not, that's your
problem. Your particular monitor can only be run at one resolution. You
can use it at other resolutions, but it will look like crap. -Dave
 
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Larc

| Your video card is set to 1,280-by-1,024, RIGHT? If not, that's your
| problem. Your particular monitor can only be run at one resolution. You
| can use it at other resolutions, but it will look like crap. -Dave

I should have mentioned that, Dave. Yes, it's set to native resolution.

Larc



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Dave

Larc said:
| Your video card is set to 1,280-by-1,024, RIGHT? If not, that's your
| problem. Your particular monitor can only be run at one resolution.
You
| can use it at other resolutions, but it will look like crap. -Dave

I should have mentioned that, Dave. Yes, it's set to native resolution.

Larc

Wow. Is there another video card you could borrow to test with? There
should not be a convergence problem on LCD. Especially not a NEC. -Dave
 
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Larc

|
| | >
| > | Your video card is set to 1,280-by-1,024, RIGHT? If not, that's your
| > | problem. Your particular monitor can only be run at one resolution.
| > You
| > | can use it at other resolutions, but it will look like crap. -Dave
| >
| > I should have mentioned that, Dave. Yes, it's set to native resolution.
| >
| > Larc
|
| Wow. Is there another video card you could borrow to test with? There
| should not be a convergence problem on LCD. Especially not a NEC. -Dave

Connected the monitor via an analog cable to my second computer. Result: no
problems, even with ClearType turned off.

I contacted Matrox Support and the tech thinks it's probably my video card. An
RMA has been authorized.

Thanks for your help, Dave.

Larc



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Mike T.

|
| Wow. Is there another video card you could borrow to test with? There
| should not be a convergence problem on LCD. Especially not a
EC. -Dave

Connected the monitor via an analog cable to my second computer. Result:
no
problems, even with ClearType turned off.

I contacted Matrox Support and the tech thinks it's probably my video
card. An
RMA has been authorized.

Thanks for your help, Dave.

Larc

No problem. I had a feeling it must have been the video card. NEC LCD
monitors have fantastic image quality. LCD monitors in general have
excellent image quality, but NEC is probably the highest quality you can buy
in an LCD.

On the other hand, Matrox makes really high quality video cards, also. So
I'm surprised to hear you had a problem with one. Still, it is logical,
considering there is no "convergence" adjustment on an LCD. :) -Dave
 

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