Problem viewing folders

[Guest]

Hi!

Two things.

One, when saving files, I'll sometimes deliberately add one or more [ to the
beginning of the filename because I want said files to appear in a certain
order. Since I have started temporarily using my 4.5 year old WinXP Pro
laptop while my half year old WinXP Home laptop is in the shop (bleepin'
power surges), files aren't showing how they're supposed to in Windows
Explorer when set to "show by name"

Instead of files starting with [[[[ showing first follwed by files starting
with [[[ etc, it's files starting with [ show first followed by files
starting with [[ follwed by [[[ followed by [[[[ followed by [[[ followed by
[[ followed by [.

How do I get files to show in the order that thhey're supposed to when
"arrainge icons by name" is selected?

Also, when I go to double click on a folder in Windows Explorer, my HD or
external HD will ratte and chatter for awhile as hard drives do for up to a
minuite and even then, the folder I double clicked on is only highlighted as
if I clicked on it once instead of Windows Explorer viewing the contents like
it should when I double click.

How do I get Windows Explorer to do like it's supposed to do when I double
click on a folder?


Thanx in advance

 

[Wesley Vogel]

Use numbers instead.

0000some_file-name.txt
000some_file-name.txt
00some_file-name.txt
0some_file-name.txt
1some_file-name.txt
2some_file-name.txt

If sort order messed up...

Use TweakUI

TweakUI
[+] Explorer
Use intuitive filename sorting

Use intuitive filename sorting
[[If this is checked the Explorer will sort files so that, for e.g. "File 5"
comes before "File 10" because 5 comes before 10. If this is unchecked then
Explorer will use literal sorting, in which case "File 10" will come before
"File 5" because 1 comes before 5. ]]

The Sort Order for Files and Folders Whose Names Contain Numerals Is
Different in Windows XP Than It Is in Windows 2000
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/319827
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Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In Cloudchaser the Red Wolf furry

 

[Guest]

I looked all through TweakUI [+] Explorer as well as view/customize this
folder and tools/folder options and couldn't find anything about intuitive
filename sorting. I tried using a file rename tool to replace all the
brackets and that did it. Thanx for your help

 

[Guest]

Aw, shoot. I thought renaming was working, but it wasn't. replacing
brackets with 0's got

000-filename-a
00-filename-a
0-filename-a
000-filename-b
00-filename-b
0-filename-b

instead of the desired

000-filename-a
000-filename-b
00-filename-a
00-filename-b
0-filename-a
0-filename-b

I also tried usinf exclaimation points, but thhat got the same problem as I
did with brackets.

Oh well, I'll only be on this dinosauer for a few weeks anyway, it's not
like I'm stuck with it

Thanx anyway

 

[Wesley Vogel]

In TweakUI in the lefthand pane.
[+] Explorer, click on Explorer not the [+]
Scroll down in the right hand pane under Settings.
Second item from the bottom is.

Use intuitive filename sorting

Check the box.

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In Cloudchaser the Red Wolf furry

I looked all through TweakUI [+] Explorer as well as view/customize this
folder and tools/folder options and couldn't find anything about intuitive
filename sorting. I tried using a file rename tool to replace all the
brackets and that did it. Thanx for your help

Use numbers instead.

0000some_file-name.txt
000some_file-name.txt
00some_file-name.txt
0some_file-name.txt
1some_file-name.txt
2some_file-name.txt

If sort order messed up...

Use TweakUI

TweakUI
[+] Explorer
Use intuitive filename sorting

Use intuitive filename sorting
[[If this is checked the Explorer will sort files so that, for e.g.
"File 5" comes before "File 10" because 5 comes before 10. If this is
unchecked then Explorer will use literal sorting, in which case "File
10" will come before "File 5" because 1 comes before 5. ]]

The Sort Order for Files and Folders Whose Names Contain Numerals Is
Different in Windows XP Than It Is in Windows 2000
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/319827
--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

 

[Wesley Vogel]

This looks sorted correctly to me.

000-filename-a
00-filename-a
0-filename-a
000-filename-b
00-filename-b
0-filename-b

Instead of using 0s, use 1, 2, 3, etc.

Instead of using these...
000-filename-a
000-filename-b
00-filename-a
00-filename-b
0-filename-a
0-filename-b

Use these...
1-filename-a.txt
2-filename-b.txt
3-filename-a.txt
4-filename-b.txt
5-filename-a.txt
6-filename-b.txt

Those have the .txt extension because I created a new folder and right
clicked, New, Text Document for each one to actually see how they would
sort.

I use W(eek)E(nding)yyyy-mm-dd.ext for my time sheets so that they sort
correctly, instead of WEFeb112007 or WE11Feb2007.

WE2007-02-11.doc
WE2007-02-25.doc
WE2007-03-04.doc
WE2007-03-11.doc
WE2007-03-18.doc
WE2007-03-25.doc
WE2007-04-01.doc
WE2007-04-08.doc
WE2007-04-15.doc

I could just as well leave the WE off, but i don't.

I use a similar method for my old radio shows; Show_yy-mm-dd_Title...

Mercury_Theatre_38-07-11_Dracula.mp3
Mercury_Theatre_38-07-25_A Tale of Two Cities.mp3
Mercury_Theatre_38-08-08_Three Short Stories I'm a Fool The Open Window & My
Little Boy.mp3
Mercury_Theatre_38-09-05_The Man Who Was Thursday.mp3
Mercury_Theatre_38-10-23_Around the World in 80 Days.mp3
Mercury_Theatre_38-10-30_The War of the Worlds.mp3
Mercury_Theatre_38-11-06_Heart of Darkness - Life with Father.mp3

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Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In Cloudchaser the Red Wolf furry

 

[Guest]

In TweakUI in the lefthand pane.
[+] Explorer, click on Explorer not the [+]
Scroll down in the right hand pane under Settings.
Second item from the bottom is.

Use intuitive filename sorting

Check the box.

I found why I didn't see it before. I had a slightly older version that
didn't have that option that I know of. Once I updated, making sure that was
checked had no effec. Oh well.

Instead of using 0s, use 1, 2, 3, etc.

(polite snip for brevity)

That's a good idea and though it just wouldn't work for me (don't know how
to put it to words), it has worked extremely well for me too in organizing
mp3's that need to be in a certain order, particularly rock operas (Jeff
Wayne, Savatage, Trans-Siberian Orchestra, etc.)

In my origional post, instead of saying it the way I did, I probably should
have said that where my usual laptop shows 'em somethin' like this

[[[file-a
[[[file-b
[[file-a
[[file-b
[file-a
[file-b

The one I'm on temporarily shows 'em like this

[file-a
[[file-a
[[[file-a
[[[file-b
[[file-b
[file-b

 

[Wesley Vogel]

If you are in Details view, the column header that is used for sorting will
have an arrow on it. If the arrow is pointing UP, the sort order is
ascending, A to Z or 1, 2, 3, etc. If the arrow is pointing DOWN, the sort
order is descending, Z to A or 3, 2, 1.

To sort items in ascending or descending order, click the column heading,
notice which way the arrow is pointing. Clicking the header toggles between
ascending and descending sort order.

In details view, by default Windows Explorer displays files and folders in
ascending order.

If you click on a different column header, that header will be used for
sorting, using ascending sort order, click the header again and it will be
sorted in descending order.

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In Cloudchaser the Red Wolf furry

In TweakUI in the lefthand pane.
[+] Explorer, click on Explorer not the [+]
Scroll down in the right hand pane under Settings.
Second item from the bottom is.

Use intuitive filename sorting

Check the box.

I found why I didn't see it before. I had a slightly older version that
didn't have that option that I know of. Once I updated, making sure that
was checked had no effec. Oh well.

Instead of using 0s, use 1, 2, 3, etc.

(polite snip for brevity)

That's a good idea and though it just wouldn't work for me (don't know how
to put it to words), it has worked extremely well for me too in organizing
mp3's that need to be in a certain order, particularly rock operas (Jeff
Wayne, Savatage, Trans-Siberian Orchestra, etc.)

In my origional post, instead of saying it the way I did, I probably
should have said that where my usual laptop shows 'em somethin' like this

[[[file-a
[[[file-b
[[file-a
[[file-b
[file-a
[file-b

The one I'm on temporarily shows 'em like this

[file-a
[[file-a
[[[file-a
[[[file-b
[[file-b
[file-b

 

[Guest]

*tries* Seems like it would, but files still show in the improper order as
described in my last post. They also show the same way in the Open and Save
As window of any program. Mabey it's something in start/settings/control
panel/folder options?

 

[Wesley Vogel]

Restore Sort order in Open and Save dialogs
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/scripts_desc/xp_opensaveorder.htm

Or...

<quote>
To resolve this behavior, reset the default sort order:
1. Right-click Start, click Explore and then click drive C.
2. On the View menu, click Details.
3. Click the Name column to sort items by name, press and hold down the CTRL
key, and then quit Windows Explorer by clicking Close in the upper-right
corner of the screen.
4. Release the CTRL key.
5. Restart your computer.

NOTE: You must perform these steps exactly as they are listed. For example,
do not quit Windows Explorer by clicking Exit on the File menu.
<quote>
from...
Items in "Open" and "Save As" Dialog Boxes Sorted Incorrectly
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/229070

This worked for one person...

<quote>
Neither of these methods worked, but I managed to fix the problem by
simply clearing the "Remember each folder's view settings" checkbox in the
Folder Options, sorting files by name and then applying changes to to all
folders..
<quote>
from...
http://www.mcse.ms/message1265518.html

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In Cloudchaser the Red Wolf furry

 

[Guest]

Restore Sort order in Open and Save dialogs
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/scripts_desc/xp_opensaveorder.htm

Just tried that, no effect.

Or...

<quote>
To resolve this behavior, reset the default sort order:
1. Right-click Start, click Explore and then click drive C.
2. On the View menu, click Details.
3. Click the Name column to sort items by name, press and hold down the CTRL
key, and then quit Windows Explorer by clicking Close in the upper-right
corner of the screen.
4. Release the CTRL key.
5. Restart your computer.

Got as far as "Right-click Start, click Explore" and got stuck. After I
click Start, there is no Explore to click.

NOTE: You must perform these steps exactly as they are listed. For example,
do not quit Windows Explorer by clicking Exit on the File menu.
<quote>
from...
Items in "Open" and "Save As" Dialog Boxes Sorted Incorrectly
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/229070

This worked for one person...

<quote>
Neither of these methods worked, but I managed to fix the problem by
simply clearing the "Remember each folder's view settings" checkbox in the
Folder Options, sorting files by name and then applying changes to to all
folders..
<quote>
from...
http://www.mcse.ms/message1265518.html

Got to "simply clearing the 'Remember each folder's view settings' checkbox
in the Folder Options" and got stuck again. Where do I tell it to "applying
changes to to all folders"? I tried "clearing the "Remember each folder's
view settings" checkbox in the Folder Options" and clicking apply/OK, but
that also had no effect.

The thing about all this that is the most frustrating for me is why is it so
easy for others but so hard for me? We all have the same operating system,
WinXP, right? Why shouldn't something that works on one system work on
another system?

 

[Wesley Vogel]

Got as far as "Right-click Start, click Explore" and got stuck. After I

click Start, there is no Explore to click.

The Start button right click context menu should contain:
---------
Open
Explore
Search
Properties
---------
Open All Users
Explore All Users
---------
And others depending on what software you have installed. Like Scan with
AVG, for example.

Try this.

Type or paste the following command into Start | Run and click OK...

regsvr32 /i shell32

See if that restores the Start button context menu.

Got to "simply clearing the 'Remember each folder's view settings'
checkbox in the Folder Options" and got stuck again. Where do I tell it
to "applying changes to to all folders"? I tried "clearing the "Remember
each folder's view settings" checkbox in the Folder Options" and clicking
apply/OK, but that also had no effect.

If you open Folder Options from Start | Run or from the Control Panel, Apply
to All Folders button will not be available.

The Apply to All Folders button is on the View tab.

Open a folder first, make whatever changes you want, then...
Click Tools | Click Folder Options | Click the View tab

Or just open a folder first, then...
Click Tools | Click Folder Options | Click the View tab

The thing about all this that is the most frustrating for me is why is it
so easy for others but so hard for me? We all have the same operating
system, WinXP, right? Why shouldn't something that works on one system
work on another system?

Windows has enough customizations so that people can personalize theirs that
that makes a difference. Also there are differences between XP Pro and XP
Home.

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Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In Cloudchaser the Red Wolf furry