|> (e-mail address removed) wrote:
|>
|>|>China is in the process of installing sniffers in all their servers, so
|>|>when someone inside China emails out anything, with for instance, the
|>|>Chinese authority will able to trace the "NNTP-Posting-Host" and catch
|>|>whoever did the posting.
|>|>
|>|>In fact, many Chinese dissidents have been caught by the authority that
|>|>way.
|>|>
|>|>Even if one uses things like Stunnel and ssl, trying to defeat the
|>|>authority, it won't work in China. The reason is that they can trace
|>|>their original IP, even if stunnel and ssl are in used.
|>|>
|>|>That is why it's important to look for a way to spoof the originating
|>|>IP, so that even the "nntp-posting-host" will give a IP address.
|>|>
|>|>Anyone having any idea ? To many in China, it's an issue of life and
|>|>death.
|>
|>Might look at Hide IP
|>
http://www.freedownloadmanager.org/downloads/Hide_IP_22400_p/
|>
|>Looking for a site that carried Hide IP I came across this thread
|>
http://www.experts-exchange.com/Applications/Q_21041194.html
Sorry bout that I guess I have an account with
www.experts-exchange.com (
www.bugmenot.com)
The thread from there follows so you don't need to register:
Solution Title: Hide IP address in Forums.....or Fake IP?
asked by eazy123 on 06/28/2004 05:12PM PDT
Hi Everytime i go on to forums they obtain your IP address, I wanted
to know if there is any program that you can purchase or download that
will change your IP address to a fake one or hide it so the forum
members wont be able to retrieve it...
Comment from MarkDozier
Date: 06/28/2004 05:18PM PDT
Comment
How are you connecting to the internet ?
Comment from eazy123
Date: 06/28/2004 05:29PM PDT
Author Comment
via satelite so i have a fixed ip number and thats why I want a fake
one so no one finds it out.
Comment from DVation191
Date: 06/28/2004 05:42PM PDT
Comment
Your best bet to hide your actual IP address when posting on forums is
to connect via a proxy. When you request a webpage from the proxy, the
proxy will fetch the webpage on your behalf, making the forum see only
the IP address of the proxy, not yours.
There are free public proxies available, and there are also paid
services. You get what you pay for
Surf from here ....
http://www.anonymization.net/
or get a list from here...
http://www.proxy4free.com/index.html and
configure your internet browser to use a proxy (Tools > Internet
Options > "Connections" tab > "LAN Settings" button ... check off "Use
proxy..." for Internet Explorer)
Or paid services like
http://www.anonymizer.com/ will generally give
you better performance and options. Either way, your IP is hidden.
Comment from andrey_2007
Date: 06/28/2004 07:16PM PDT
Comment
yea, the only way u can hide your IP is by using an anonymous proxy
server. Here how you do it:
First you find a proxy list. THis is the easy step. Just google 'proxy
lists'. You will get million of results. There are millions of proxies
out there. For example via google i found this list:
http://www.samair.ru/proxy/.
Then in Internet Explorer go to tools>internt options. Then go to the
connections tab. You should see a box that says: 'Dialup and Virtual
Private Network Settings' In the box you should see an option. For
example I see 'Earthlink' because thats my IP. You should see
something similar. Highlight that option and click setting. Another
box should appear. Then check the 'Use a proxy server for this connect
box' and type in the proxy server and the IP from the list that you
looked up earlier. Then, just to test, go to
www.whatismyip.com and
check to see if it shows the IP of the proxy and not urs.
And your done!
Comment from andrey_2007
Date: 06/28/2004 07:17PM PDT
Comment
correction: Then go to the connections tab. You should see a box that
says: 'Dialup and Virtual Private Network Settings' In the box you
should see an option. For example I see 'Earthlink' because thats my
ISP...
Comment from andrey_2007
Date: 06/28/2004 07:18PM PDT
Comment
sorry one more correction: Then check the 'Use a proxy server for
this connect box' and type in the proxy server and the port from the
list that you looked up earlier.
Comment from eazy123
Date: 06/28/2004 07:30PM PDT
Author Comment
yeah i actually tried some surf annonymous programs like ghost surf
and the forum wont let you in because it detects that you are hiding
your IP.....the forum needs an IP from your computer and thats why I
need a program to change my IP with a Fake one....
Comment from andrey_2007
Date: 06/28/2004 07:35PM PDT
Comment
if you use a proxy the forum wont detect that, it has no way of
knowing.
Comment from andrey_2007
Date: 06/28/2004 07:37PM PDT
Comment
and if you are really parnoid u can chain proxies together. so ur
completely untraceable
Comment from eazy123
Date: 06/28/2004 07:45PM PDT
Author Comment
chain proxies? more info please hehe
Comment from andrey_2007
Date: 06/28/2004 07:55PM PDT
Comment
It is very simple, I'll explain:
Lets take a simple example of Proxy chaining:
[User] ---> [proxy1] ---> [proxy2] ---> [proxy3] ---> [web site]
In the example above shows that for a proxy chain to be created, the
user must first connect to proxy1. Once a connection is established,
the user connects from proxy1 to proxy2, from proxy2 he connects to
proxy3 and finally he connects to a web site or any other destination.
If we look at the process above, we see that all together we have
three proxies and to each proxy in this chain we call "link". The use
of proxy chaining is very useful when you try to stay anonymous on the
Internet because if someone tries to follow your tracks it will find
the IP (Internet Protocol) of Proxy4. The problem with proxy chaining
and with proxy servers in general is that they "die out" in few weeks
and if one "link" is dead the entire chain is broken.
Even though you will never be totally anonymous of the Internet and no
matter what will you use. The concept of using proxy chaining is to
make the tracking work much harder than before.
Comment from andrey_2007
Date: 06/28/2004 07:56PM PDT
Comment
ill tell u how to exactly do it in internet explorer in a sec...
Comment from andrey_2007
Date: 06/28/2004 07:58PM PDT
Comment
so instead of typing in 1 proxy you can do something like this:
http://proxya:port/http://proxyb:port/http://proxyC:port/http://proxyd:port/
Comment from eazy123
Date: 06/28/2004 08:46PM PDT
Author Comment
you stated - Even though you will never be totally anonymous of the
Internet and no matter what will you use. The concept of using proxy
chaining is to make the tracking work much harder than before.
so there is still a way they can track you?
Comment from andrey_2007
Date: 06/28/2004 09:15PM PDT
Comment
theoritaclly yes, but practically no. Keep in mind to track you, they
would have to contact the anonymous proxy and ask them for your IP.
99% of anonymous proxies dont keep logs. If you are chaining proxies
together then it is almost imposible to track you. I'll explain:
Ill use this model from before:
[User] ---> [proxy1] ---> [proxy2] ---> [proxy3] ---> [web site]
The website would have to contact proxt3 and then get the IP of proxy
2. Then the website would have to contact the proxy 2 to get the IP of
proxy 1. Then the website would have to contact proxy 1 to get your
IP. Keep in mind most proxies don't keep logs, as I have mentioned
before. Thus it is almost impossile the odds are .000000001 % that
they'll get ur IP. Also the proxy may withhold your IP even if they
have it, unless u tried to mess w/ a site, because they are NOT
obligated to give it to anyone.
NO ONE WOULD GO THROUGH SUCH TROUBLE TO TRY TO FIND YOUR IP!!!!!!!!!!!
I recommend using 1 proxy.
Comment from DVation191
Date: 06/29/2004 08:34AM PDT
Comment
yea...proxy...like i said
Comment from andrey_2007
Date: 06/29/2004 08:48AM PDT
Comment
u were incorrect about how to confgure a proxy in IE...
Comment from DVation191
Date: 06/29/2004 10:03AM PDT
Comment
not if you are on high speed internet.
Comment from andrey_2007
Date: 06/29/2004 02:49PM PDT
Comment
ive had DSL and Broadband and my way has worked both times...
Comment from DVation191
Date: 06/29/2004 05:04PM PDT
Comment
andrey_2007, you won't have any entries in 'Dialup and Virtual
Private Network Settings' unless you have a dialup account. You have a
dial up account..."Earthlink". If you don't have a dial up account,
you cant select your isp in the list, and therefore you will not be
able to hit the seetings but like you suggest. DSL *is* broadband so I
don't know why you are claiming to have had both DSL *and* broadband.
Cable internet also has Dial Up connections in that list. In each of
the above scenarios you need to add your proxy settings in the manner
I have stated above. I have tried and used this solution and did not
need an entry in my dial up list...which would be impossible since I
use cable internet!
I am not wrong, and you are not wrong. Your way only needs to be used
if you have dial up. My way needs to be used if you do not. I am not
incorrect. Be careful what you say... I'd hate to see you tell
microsoft they don't know how to use their own products since they
clearly state this is how to configure a proxy in the IE help file.
Comment from andrey_2007
Date: 06/29/2004 06:50PM PDT
Comment
first have I have Earthlink DSL. second, you are right dsl and
broadband are the same thing, i ment DSL and Cable. Sorry for the
mixup.
Comment from andrey_2007
Date: 06/29/2004 06:51PM PDT
Comment
quick correction: firstly, i have earthlink dsl.
Comment from andrey_2007
Date: 06/29/2004 06:53PM PDT
Comment
and one more thing, the people who write the Microsoft help file are
not gods, they are ordinary people like u and me. so u should view the
microsoft help file w/ that much veneration
Comment from andrey_2007
Date: 06/29/2004 06:54PM PDT
Comment
*shouldn't view the microsoft...
<sorry, i cant type today
>
Comment from DVation191
Date: 06/29/2004 07:03PM PDT
Comment
Your DSL puts an entry in the dial up connections list because it
requires a user name and password. Not that it matters...even if you
configure that connection for a proxy its only a per-connection
setting ... (notice it says it does not apply to other connections) my
original post applies to all connections, whether listed in the dial
up connections list or not.
regarding the IE help file...I didn't need to use it to make my post,
I used it to reinforce the fact that the information I provided was
not "incorrect" as you mistakenly quoted ... "u were incorrect about
how to confgure a proxy in IE..." ... the help file only reaffirms
that I provided accurate information for the author of the question.
Comment from andrey_2007
Date: 06/29/2004 07:15PM PDT
Comment
when i configure my dsl using the way i mentioned, it apply to all
connections (for me). i'm speaking from experience.
Comment from eazy123
Date: 06/29/2004 09:36PM PDT
Author Comment
right guys anyways so which proxy program do you guys recommend that
works on forums and has been tested?
Comment from andrey_2007
Date: 06/29/2004 09:39PM PDT
Comment
why use a program? there are plenty of free lists on the internet,
that work. and i have already told u how to configure it in IE. so
basically ur all set.
-andrey
Comment from eazy123
Date: 07/01/2004 12:41AM PDT
Author Comment
okay cool but i dont want to keep testing a proxy and if its back
listed then i have to keep trying....is there a program that does all
that for you? and if so which one? thanks for your help.
Accepted Answer from andrey_2007
Date: 07/01/2004 03:23PM PDT
Grade: A
Accepted Answer
dont worry proxies are stable. most proxies are up 24 hrs a day. there
is a program called steganos... or something, that connects to proxies
for you, but iz a pretty big waste of money. since u can just connect
to a proxy, which will be up for a while.
Comment from turn123
Date: 07/06/2004 03:44AM PDT
Comment
eazy123, Please respond to the comments from the Experts.
See:
http://www.experts-exchange.com/help.jsp#hi49 Thank you, turn123
(s)
As this post is not the answer to your question, PLEASE DON'T ACCEPT
IT AS AN ANSWER.
Comment from beda79
Date: 07/27/2004 05:48AM PDT
Comment
check out
http://www.publicproxyservers.com
there are a lot of free anonymous proxies, partly with high anonymity,
and the lists are updated everyday, i always use one of these if i
want to hide my ip, never had any troubles
Comment from ibradshaw
Date: 07/28/2004 04:02AM PDT
Comment
Go here (
http://www.steganos.com) and install Internet Anonym 6.
Works a treat by randomly altering between free proxy servers
(anywhere from every second to every minute or so).
Comment from OafyC
Date: 07/29/2004 01:07AM PDT
Comment
I second the recommendation for Steganos Internet Anonym 6. I
currently use the pro version. I am also considering purchasing a
program called Metropipe from
http://www.metropipe.net/. Here is the
description:
The MetroPipe Tunneler creates an encrypted tunnel which actively
protects your web sessions, making it impossible for eavesdroppers in
the Internet's Spy Zones to compromise your privacy. It also makes you
anonymous, as the Tunneler obscures your internet address and location
from all web servers.
You may want to have a look at that if you are as paranoid as I am.
Comment from ibradshaw
Date: 07/29/2004 01:17AM PDT
Comment
That looks like a good idea, but still uses there central server so
its not truely anonymous since they will know what is happening. The
1Gb per month limit seems a little low as well - if you stream radio
etc. you could easily fill that up in a month...
I presume they track what you do, otherwise they would never be able
to enforce the 1Gb limit... seems a little suspect to me! (the synical
view maybe...)
Comment from OafyC
Date: 07/29/2004 01:50AM PDT
Comment
Well here's their answer about tracking bandwidth:
Do you keep logs?
Only generic, aggregate statistics that are necessary for the
performance of our system, and email addresses for contacting our
customers at renewal time. We do not have any information that can
identify details of your personal usage, save for bandwidth, for which
we sometimes charge. And even old bandwidth logs are deleted
regularly.
The 1GB limit is low, but I probably wouldn't be using this for
everything that I did.
Here is another one that is mainly for getting around firewalls but it
accomplishes the same thing. Their is an unlimited bandwidth option
as well.
http://www.http-tunnel.com/html/solutions/http_tunnel/client.asp
You are right about them keeping logs though. We can never rely on
what the site says to be the truth. They could for all we know be a
government agency.
Comment from fetchmaster
Date: 09/20/2004 03:05AM PDT
Comment
Some of the online tools that helps to obfuscate the ip address of
your machine. It actually converts the IP to a number long format.
Some of them are follows.
http://www.zend.com/codex.php?id=181&single=1 (script source)
or
http://www.civiconarch.com/senselabs/ip_hider.php (online)
But these days i think many browsers dont support this format.
Comment from zuluoo
Date: 10/20/2004 09:44PM PDT
Comment
I'm pleased with some of the answers about chain proxy. However, This
is my first entry for this site, and I want to add some of the things
i know. I'm a user of very strict country and my isp blocked every
known proxy tunnels for because they are the sole ISP of my country.
So, most of the time i've to surf using proxy tunnel softwares to even
loginto free e-mail services like yahoo or msn. I see that you want
unlimited bandwidth for proxy tunneling. One good program that might
work for u is from
http://your-freedom.net . It's easy to setup
features and alternative proxy servers make it impossiable for my isp
to block it so far. And it free. What more you want, Right? Well,
you can even relay ip for others if you know how to setup. It has
downlink or uplink speed up to 1024k ( it depand on your connection
speed) and as for me even with dialup connection it runs smoothly.
You need to subscribe to their website to use it... but it's free, and
they don't send spam! Does it suit with your questions? However..
this program not only hide you from any ip sniffers, it can use to any
bann site that i've encounter... every port that my isp bann, and it
work for sock 4/5 for IM and FTP services.
Here are some of the programs that might also suit you,
https://proxify.com <-- it's free web base tunneling but you have to
pay if you want https for extensive tunneling
http://primedius.com <-- it's the fastest tunneling available, but my
isp blocked it (so i don't think they are that smart,
http://hopster.com <--very good tunneling too and it's very easy to
setup.. (you don't even need to setup..
) but it's good for p2p and
IM like yahoo and messenger
Comment from ridesd
Date: 02/04/2005 06:13PM PST
Comment
You guys are awesome! I love this place =)
Comment from rajendraone
Date: 02/16/2005 10:33AM PST
Comment
ALERT EVERYBODY! <ALERT! ALERT! ALERT!>
http://www.stayinvisible.com/index.pl/ip_test_result_nocache
I have some question on using proxies.
You guys told me that the proxies hide your IP, rite?
I am connected to my local ISP via dialup connection.
I find that every of my request goes through their proxy. Say at a
time I am assigned an IP address of 200.200.200.50 and my ISP proxy
has an IP address of 200.200.200.10.
When i checked my IP address thru some site (like
http://www.stayinvisible.com/index.pl/ip_test_result_nocache) they
have shown two address.
One is the proxy 200.200.200.10
An my real IP as 200.200.200.50
And again, I add some public proxy IP address from the internet (say,
201.201.201.10). The whatismyipaddress again shows two IPs i am
connected through. The proxy as 201.201.201.10 and My real IP address
as 200.200.200.50.
SO I FIND THAT MY REAL IP ADDRESS IS ALWAYS KNOWN.
Upon quering i learned that this is a serious security falw in JAVA.
Due to security fla in JAVA , the applet bypasses your proxy. Besides,
The java applet can also read you localetwork IP even if its your
private IP.
SO, You cant hide you IP so easily using proxy. One can easily detect
by above mentioned way.
If You want privacy, Justdisable Java in your Browser.
If you still want you java to work. Then use firewalls.
I recommend the site.
http://www.stayinvisible.com/index.pl/ip_test_result_nocache
Rajendra Adhikari.
Comment from rajendraone
Date: 02/16/2005 10:26PM PST
Comment
If you get this message in the above site then your real IP has not
been known. Its because you are using Windows X, 2000 or later. They
simply dont have JVM installed in their machine. However, if your PC
does load some java applet then this should show your real IP whatever
proxy trick you get through.
If you get,
Warning: Can't load data of java applet. The test is not complete.
in my above recommended site then probably you dont have JVM. Your
real IP cannot be known, you are safe, but you always missed to
dispaly anykind of java applet in internet. JVM is automatically
installed in Windows 98.
Rajendra Adhikari.
Comment from SEAFROG
Date: 03/24/2005 12:19AM PST
Comment
Download Firefox browser (
www.getfirefox.com) and download the
extension SWITCHPROXY. (
http://mozmonkey.com/switchproxy/)
Now, go to switchproxy preference and load this URL
http://www.steganos.com/?area=updateproxylist.
This will load tons of proxies.
When you activate Switchproxy, your ip address will change every 4 - 8
seconds based on your preference.
Comment from MichaelSeare
Date: 03/27/2005 02:08PM PST
Comment
Even though using FireFox's SWITHCPROXY would switch the IP every 4-8
seconds, isn't it true that if the site requires cookies they could
record a unique id in your cookie and would know it's the same
computer for that particular session? If you didn't delete your
cookies they could also track you from session to session, day to day.
Yes, they may never know your IP but they could connect all of your
sessions together internally which may give away some information you
didn't care to divulge.
So wouldn't you need both IP switching and a cookie auto deletion
feature to stay anonymous?
Comment from Radjehuty
Date: 05/09/2005 10:19AM PDT
Comment
Actually If you all would like to try it, there is a reletively new
service that is FREE. There is a program called TOR which basically
allows you to connect to volunteer proxy hosts for you. Just go on
Google.com and Search for TOR (Second link I believe). They have
pretty good instructions, but it is quite reliable.
Comment from NatSharp
Date: 08/01/2005 03:34PM PDT
Comment
1) Disable Java
2) Get a Firewall - Disable incoming connections
3) Run through multiple Proxies
4) Change your Software (O.S.) reported MAC address everytime you boot
up
5) Use Linux
6) Update your Linux Distro
7) HF and GL (have fun and good luck)
Comment from carloselfaite
Date: 09/16/2005 04:39AM PDT
Comment
I have an optical fiber connection *(600MB/s) in a server machine,if I
use proxys I would lose bandwidth?
