Printing Different first page headers

G

Guest

I have an Access report that provides information by customer and a number of
pages of detail that will follow. I want to create a common look to the
first page, but on the second pages and following I want to display the
column headings that I've defined within my Page header section of the
report. Every time the customer chages, I want the customer header to
display, but not the page header. Access indicates that there is only 3
groupings that control the Page Header -- Print With Report header, Print
with Report Footer, and don't print with either. How do I do this? Thank
you in advance.
 
J

Jeff Boyce

I may not fully understand your report design. If you have changing
customer, plus details for each customer, couldn't you put the customer
"header" information in the Customer header? This assumes you have grouped
by Customer.

What am I missing?
 
G

Guest

Thanks Jeff for your fast response!
To preserve printing space on the report, here is the hierarchy of my report.

Sort By: Customer - Product Group - Product
Group By: Customer - Product Group

Within the Customer Header, I have the first page of column headings defined:

Product Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4
Detail Records XX XX XX XX

If the detail spills over to a second page, I just want the fields
identified above to print on pages 2, 3 etc.

When the customer changes, then a new page prints and my Page Header and my
customer Header print. It looks something like this:

Product Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4
Detail Records XX XX XX XX


Customer Information


Product Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4
Detail Records XX XX XX XX

On the new customer information page, I want it to look like this:

Customer Information


Product Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4
Detail Records XX XX XX XX

<New page continuation within same customer>
Product Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4
Detail Records XX XX XX XX
 
J

Jeff Boyce

Sorry, but I'm still confused. Your example of how you want it to look when
the customer changes:
Product Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4
Detail Records XX XX XX XX


Customer Information


Product Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4
Detail Records XX XX XX XX

includes what I would describe as "detail" info BEFORE your (new) customer
information. How does that work?

<see additional comments in-line below>

Regards

Jeff Boyce
<Office/Access MVP>

Cat's Meow said:
Thanks Jeff for your fast response!
To preserve printing space on the report, here is the hierarchy of my report.

Sort By: Customer - Product Group - Product
Group By: Customer - Product Group

Within the Customer Header, I have the first page of column headings defined:

Product Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4
Detail Records XX XX XX XX

I don't see the customer information here, in what you've described as the
Customer Header.
If the detail spills over to a second page, I just want the fields
identified above to print on pages 2, 3 etc.

When the customer changes, then a new page prints and my Page Header and my
customer Header print. It looks something like this:

I don't understand ... what information are you placing in the Page Header?
Product Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4
Detail Records XX XX XX XX


Customer Information


Product Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4
Detail Records XX XX XX XX

On the new customer information page, I want it to look like this:

Is this a repeat of what you just said above?
 
G

Guest

Jeff,

Please accept my apologies. I made an error in my response. It should look
like this:

Thanks Jeff for your fast response!

Sort By: Customer - Product Group - Product
Group By: Customer - Product Group

Within the Customer Header, I have the first page of column headings defined:

Product Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4

And then the Detail records printing under the corresponding heading.
Detail Records XX XX XX XX

If the detail spills over to a second page, I just want the fields
identified above to print on pages 2, 3 etc. I want it to look like this on
page 2, 3 of the customer detail:

Product Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 {labels
Detail XX XX XX XX

When the customer changes, then a new page prints and my Page Header and my
customer Header print. It looks something like this:

Product Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 {These are labels defined in the page Header

Customer Header Information which includes
Customer
Address
Phone

Product Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 {These are labels within the Customer Header
Detail XX XX XX XX

I can attach a Word document if that would be more helpful, but I don't know
how to do that in this forum.

Thanks for your assitance.
Tom
 
G

Guest

Jeff,

Let me try this again. This is really important and I'm trying to figure
out if it something I have to do in VBA or if it something that can easily be
done within the Report program within Access. The hierarchy of my report is:

Sort By: Customer - Product Group - Product
Group By: Customer - Product Group


This is how my report prints right now:

{No Report Header

Customer Name {Customer Header Fields
Address
City, State zip
Phone

Product Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 {Customer Header Labels
ProductX xx xx xx xx {Detail Records


[Page 2, Same Customer]

Product Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 {Page Header
ProductX xx xx xx xx {Detail Records

[Page 3, New Customer]

Product Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 {Page Header

Customer Name {Customer Header Fields
Address
City, State zip
Phone

Product Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 {Customer Header Labels
ProductX xx xx xx xx {Detail Records

And therein is my problem. Because the page header prints on the new page
AND my Customer Header prints because it is a new customer, my column
headings print twice. I want my page three to look like this for a new
customer:

[Page 3, New Customer]


Customer Name {Customer Header Fields
Address
City, State zip
Phone

Product Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 {Customer Header Labels
ProductX xx xx xx xx {Detail Records

Thanks for your quick response.
Tom
 
J

Jeff Boyce

Tom

If you want your "Q" headers to only print when there's a product
(underneath a customer), could you put it underneath the customer
information in the customer header?

--
Regards

Jeff Boyce
<Office/Access MVP>

Cat's Meow said:
Jeff,

Let me try this again. This is really important and I'm trying to figure
out if it something I have to do in VBA or if it something that can easily be
done within the Report program within Access. The hierarchy of my report is:

Sort By: Customer - Product Group - Product
Group By: Customer - Product Group


This is how my report prints right now:

{No Report Header

Customer Name {Customer Header Fields
Address
City, State zip
Phone

Product Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 {Customer Header Labels
ProductX xx xx xx xx {Detail Records


[Page 2, Same Customer]

Product Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 {Page Header
ProductX xx xx xx xx {Detail Records

[Page 3, New Customer]

Product Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 {Page Header

Customer Name {Customer Header Fields
Address
City, State zip
Phone

Product Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 {Customer Header Labels
ProductX xx xx xx xx {Detail Records

And therein is my problem. Because the page header prints on the new page
AND my Customer Header prints because it is a new customer, my column
headings print twice. I want my page three to look like this for a new
customer:

[Page 3, New Customer]


Customer Name {Customer Header Fields
Address
City, State zip
Phone

Product Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 {Customer Header Labels
ProductX xx xx xx xx {Detail Records

Thanks for your quick response.
Tom



Jeff Boyce said:
Sorry, but I'm still confused. Your example of how you want it to look when
the customer changes:


includes what I would describe as "detail" info BEFORE your (new) customer
information. How does that work?

<see additional comments in-line below>

Regards

Jeff Boyce
<Office/Access MVP>



I don't see the customer information here, in what you've described as the
Customer Header.
and
my

I don't understand ... what information are you placing in the Page Header?


Is this a repeat of what you just said above?
a
number to
the display
the only
3 header,
Print this?
Thank
 
G

Guest

Jeff,

That is where it is. It is included within the Customer Header section of
the report, but the problem comes in when the data is longer than will fit on
one page and spills over to page 2, 3, etc. On page 2, 3, etc within the
same customer, I want their to be column headings over the detail. When a
new customer occurs, I don't want the Page Header to print, just the Customer
Header (which includes the column labels for page 1).

I will look forward to your response. Thanks Jeff.
Tom

Jeff Boyce said:
Tom

If you want your "Q" headers to only print when there's a product
(underneath a customer), could you put it underneath the customer
information in the customer header?

--
Regards

Jeff Boyce
<Office/Access MVP>

Cat's Meow said:
Jeff,

Let me try this again. This is really important and I'm trying to figure
out if it something I have to do in VBA or if it something that can easily be
done within the Report program within Access. The hierarchy of my report is:

Sort By: Customer - Product Group - Product
Group By: Customer - Product Group


This is how my report prints right now:

{No Report Header

Customer Name {Customer Header Fields
Address
City, State zip
Phone

Product Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 {Customer Header Labels
ProductX xx xx xx xx {Detail Records


[Page 2, Same Customer]

Product Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 {Page Header
ProductX xx xx xx xx {Detail Records

[Page 3, New Customer]

Product Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 {Page Header

Customer Name {Customer Header Fields
Address
City, State zip
Phone

Product Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 {Customer Header Labels
ProductX xx xx xx xx {Detail Records

And therein is my problem. Because the page header prints on the new page
AND my Customer Header prints because it is a new customer, my column
headings print twice. I want my page three to look like this for a new
customer:

[Page 3, New Customer]


Customer Name {Customer Header Fields
Address
City, State zip
Phone

Product Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 {Customer Header Labels
ProductX xx xx xx xx {Detail Records

Thanks for your quick response.
Tom



Jeff Boyce said:
Sorry, but I'm still confused. Your example of how you want it to look when
the customer changes:

Product Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4
Detail Records XX XX XX XX


Customer Information


Product Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4
Detail Records XX XX XX XX

includes what I would describe as "detail" info BEFORE your (new) customer
information. How does that work?

<see additional comments in-line below>

Regards

Jeff Boyce
<Office/Access MVP>

Thanks Jeff for your fast response!
To preserve printing space on the report, here is the hierarchy of my
report.

Sort By: Customer - Product Group - Product
Group By: Customer - Product Group

Within the Customer Header, I have the first page of column headings
defined:

Product Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4
Detail Records XX XX XX XX

I don't see the customer information here, in what you've described as the
Customer Header.


If the detail spills over to a second page, I just want the fields
identified above to print on pages 2, 3 etc.

When the customer changes, then a new page prints and my Page Header and
my
customer Header print. It looks something like this:


I don't understand ... what information are you placing in the Page Header?

Product Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4
Detail Records XX XX XX XX


Customer Information


Product Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4
Detail Records XX XX XX XX

On the new customer information page, I want it to look like this:

Is this a repeat of what you just said above?


Customer Information


Product Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4
Detail Records XX XX XX XX

<New page continuation within same customer>
Product Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4
Detail Records XX XX XX XX


:

I may not fully understand your report design. If you have changing
customer, plus details for each customer, couldn't you put the customer
"header" information in the Customer header? This assumes you have
grouped
by Customer.

What am I missing?

--
Regards

Jeff Boyce
<Office/Access MVP>

I have an Access report that provides information by customer and a
number
of
pages of detail that will follow. I want to create a common look to
the
first page, but on the second pages and following I want to display
the
column headings that I've defined within my Page header section of the
report. Every time the customer chages, I want the customer header to
display, but not the page header. Access indicates that there is only
3
groupings that control the Page Header -- Print With Report header,
Print
with Report Footer, and don't print with either. How do I do this?
Thank
you in advance.
 
J

Jeff Boyce

Tom

I'm not there, so this is just a thought...

Could you do your "detail" report as a subreport, with it's own headers,
then embed that under your Customer section?

--
Regards

Jeff Boyce
<Office/Access MVP>

Cat's Meow said:
Jeff,

That is where it is. It is included within the Customer Header section of
the report, but the problem comes in when the data is longer than will fit on
one page and spills over to page 2, 3, etc. On page 2, 3, etc within the
same customer, I want their to be column headings over the detail. When a
new customer occurs, I don't want the Page Header to print, just the Customer
Header (which includes the column labels for page 1).

I will look forward to your response. Thanks Jeff.
Tom

Jeff Boyce said:
Tom

If you want your "Q" headers to only print when there's a product
(underneath a customer), could you put it underneath the customer
information in the customer header?

--
Regards

Jeff Boyce
<Office/Access MVP>

Cat's Meow said:
Jeff,

Let me try this again. This is really important and I'm trying to figure
out if it something I have to do in VBA or if it something that can
easily
be
done within the Report program within Access. The hierarchy of my
report
is:
Sort By: Customer - Product Group - Product
Group By: Customer - Product Group


This is how my report prints right now:

{No Report Header

Customer Name {Customer Header Fields
Address
City, State zip
Phone

Product Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 {Customer Header Labels
ProductX xx xx xx xx {Detail Records


[Page 2, Same Customer]

Product Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 {Page Header
ProductX xx xx xx xx {Detail Records

[Page 3, New Customer]

Product Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 {Page Header

Customer Name {Customer Header Fields
Address
City, State zip
Phone

Product Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 {Customer Header Labels
ProductX xx xx xx xx {Detail Records

And therein is my problem. Because the page header prints on the new page
AND my Customer Header prints because it is a new customer, my column
headings print twice. I want my page three to look like this for a new
customer:

[Page 3, New Customer]


Customer Name {Customer Header Fields
Address
City, State zip
Phone

Product Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 {Customer Header Labels
ProductX xx xx xx xx {Detail Records

Thanks for your quick response.
Tom



:

Sorry, but I'm still confused. Your example of how you want it to
look
when
the customer changes:

Product Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4
Detail Records XX XX XX XX


Customer Information


Product Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4
Detail Records XX XX XX XX

includes what I would describe as "detail" info BEFORE your (new) customer
information. How does that work?

<see additional comments in-line below>

Regards

Jeff Boyce
<Office/Access MVP>

Thanks Jeff for your fast response!
To preserve printing space on the report, here is the hierarchy of my
report.

Sort By: Customer - Product Group - Product
Group By: Customer - Product Group

Within the Customer Header, I have the first page of column headings
defined:

Product Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4
Detail Records XX XX XX XX

I don't see the customer information here, in what you've described
as
the
Customer Header.


If the detail spills over to a second page, I just want the fields
identified above to print on pages 2, 3 etc.

When the customer changes, then a new page prints and my Page
Header
and
my
customer Header print. It looks something like this:


I don't understand ... what information are you placing in the Page Header?

Product Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4
Detail Records XX XX XX XX


Customer Information


Product Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4
Detail Records XX XX XX XX

On the new customer information page, I want it to look like this:

Is this a repeat of what you just said above?


Customer Information


Product Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4
Detail Records XX XX XX XX

<New page continuation within same customer>
Product Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4
Detail Records XX XX XX XX


:

I may not fully understand your report design. If you have changing
customer, plus details for each customer, couldn't you put the customer
"header" information in the Customer header? This assumes you have
grouped
by Customer.

What am I missing?

--
Regards

Jeff Boyce
<Office/Access MVP>

I have an Access report that provides information by customer
and
a
number
of
pages of detail that will follow. I want to create a common
look
to
the
first page, but on the second pages and following I want to display
the
column headings that I've defined within my Page header
section of
the
report. Every time the customer chages, I want the customer header to
display, but not the page header. Access indicates that there
is
only
3
groupings that control the Page Header -- Print With Report header,
Print
with Report Footer, and don't print with either. How do I do this?
Thank
you in advance.
 
G

Guest

Jeff,

I am going to try and paste in output exported from my problematic report
into Word:

[Page 1 for customer Prints fine like this]

Company Name
Dealer Purchases Report
For the Year 2005
Cust # 1896 Salesperson JEFFREYF
Dealer Customer
Address Street 123
City CitySomewhere
Phon
ST IL
Contac Name
Zip 60436
2005 2006
Actual Projected
Product History by Product Class Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 TOTAL Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4
105 TR 80% XR FurnTDD040C924F XR80 40BTU 14.5 6 6 2 2 2 2 10 10
105 TR 80% XR FurnTDD060C936F XR80 60BTU 14.5 7 7 4 4 3 3 7 7 21 21
105 TR 80% XR FurnTDD120C960F XR80 120BTU 1 1 1 1
105 TR 80% XR FurnTDD140C960F XR80 140BTU 1 1 1 1 2 2
105 TR 80% XR FurnTDD1B080A9361A XR80 80BTU 20 20 15 15 26 26 12 12 73 73
105 TR 80% XR FurnTDD1B100A9451A XR80 100BTU 2 2 1 1 3 3 6 6
105 TR 80% XR FurnTUD040C924K XR80 40BTU 14.5 1 1 1 1
105 TR 80% XR FurnTUD060C936K XR80 60BTU 14.5 0 0 1 1 2 2 1 1 4 4
105 TR 80% XR FurnTUD080C936K XR80 80BTU 17.5 21 21 35 35 36 36 27 27 119 119
105 TR 80% XR FurnTUD100C948K XR80 100BTU 73 73 132 132 112 112 93 93 410 410


[Page 2 for same customer prints fine like this]
2005 2006
Actual Projected
Product History by Product Class Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 TOTAL Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4
105 TR 80% XR FurnTUD120C960K XR80 120BTU -1 -1 -1 -1
105 TR 80% XR FurnTUD1B100A9451A XR80 100BTU 1 1 1 1 5 5 3 3 10 10
105 TR 80% XR FurnTUD1C120A9541A XR80 120BTU 46 46 82 82 69 69 36 36 233 233
105 TR 80% XR FurnTUD1D140A9601A XR80 140BTU 24 24 33 33 30 30 23 23 110 110

[Page 3 for new customer is the problem because it looks like this]

I don't} 2005 2006
want } Actual Projected
this to} Product History by Product Class Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 TOTAL Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4
print }
here }
Company, Inc
Dealer Purchases Report
For the Year 2005
Cust # 9999 Salesperson ISR
Dealer Another new customer
Address Streets somewhere
City CityInUSA
Phon 847-999-9999
ST IL
Contac ME
Zip 60999
2005 2006
Actual Projected
Product History by Product Class Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 TOTAL Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4
100 TR 80% XB FurnTUE080A936L XB80 80BTU 17.5 1 1 1 1

Jeff, if this still doesn't make sense to you, let me know if there is any
way I can email you the output. I think you will see the problem more
clearly.

Thanks for your persistence in helping me.
Tom
Jeff Boyce said:
Tom

I'm not there, so this is just a thought...

Could you do your "detail" report as a subreport, with it's own headers,
then embed that under your Customer section?

--
Regards

Jeff Boyce
<Office/Access MVP>

Cat's Meow said:
Jeff,

That is where it is. It is included within the Customer Header section of
the report, but the problem comes in when the data is longer than will fit on
one page and spills over to page 2, 3, etc. On page 2, 3, etc within the
same customer, I want their to be column headings over the detail. When a
new customer occurs, I don't want the Page Header to print, just the Customer
Header (which includes the column labels for page 1).

I will look forward to your response. Thanks Jeff.
Tom

Jeff Boyce said:
Tom

If you want your "Q" headers to only print when there's a product
(underneath a customer), could you put it underneath the customer
information in the customer header?

--
Regards

Jeff Boyce
<Office/Access MVP>

Jeff,

Let me try this again. This is really important and I'm trying to figure
out if it something I have to do in VBA or if it something that can easily
be
done within the Report program within Access. The hierarchy of my report
is:

Sort By: Customer - Product Group - Product
Group By: Customer - Product Group


This is how my report prints right now:

{No Report Header

Customer Name {Customer Header Fields
Address
City, State zip
Phone

Product Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 {Customer Header Labels
ProductX xx xx xx xx {Detail Records


[Page 2, Same Customer]

Product Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 {Page Header
ProductX xx xx xx xx {Detail Records

[Page 3, New Customer]

Product Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 {Page Header

Customer Name {Customer Header Fields
Address
City, State zip
Phone

Product Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 {Customer Header Labels
ProductX xx xx xx xx {Detail Records

And therein is my problem. Because the page header prints on the new page
AND my Customer Header prints because it is a new customer, my column
headings print twice. I want my page three to look like this for a new
customer:

[Page 3, New Customer]


Customer Name {Customer Header Fields
Address
City, State zip
Phone

Product Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 {Customer Header Labels
ProductX xx xx xx xx {Detail Records

Thanks for your quick response.
Tom



:

Sorry, but I'm still confused. Your example of how you want it to look
when
the customer changes:

Product Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4
Detail Records XX XX XX XX


Customer Information


Product Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4
Detail Records XX XX XX XX

includes what I would describe as "detail" info BEFORE your (new)
customer
information. How does that work?

<see additional comments in-line below>

Regards

Jeff Boyce
<Office/Access MVP>

Thanks Jeff for your fast response!
To preserve printing space on the report, here is the hierarchy of my
report.

Sort By: Customer - Product Group - Product
Group By: Customer - Product Group

Within the Customer Header, I have the first page of column headings
defined:

Product Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4
Detail Records XX XX XX XX

I don't see the customer information here, in what you've described as
the
Customer Header.


If the detail spills over to a second page, I just want the fields
identified above to print on pages 2, 3 etc.

When the customer changes, then a new page prints and my Page Header
and
my
customer Header print. It looks something like this:


I don't understand ... what information are you placing in the Page
Header?

Product Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4
Detail Records XX XX XX XX


Customer Information


Product Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4
Detail Records XX XX XX XX

On the new customer information page, I want it to look like this:

Is this a repeat of what you just said above?


Customer Information


Product Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4
Detail Records XX XX XX XX

<New page continuation within same customer>
Product Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4
Detail Records XX XX XX XX


:

I may not fully understand your report design. If you have changing
customer, plus details for each customer, couldn't you put the
customer
"header" information in the Customer header? This assumes you have
grouped
by Customer.

What am I missing?

--
Regards

Jeff Boyce
<Office/Access MVP>

I have an Access report that provides information by customer and
a
number
of
pages of detail that will follow. I want to create a common look
to
the
first page, but on the second pages and following I want to
display
the
column headings that I've defined within my Page header section of
the
report. Every time the customer chages, I want the customer
header to
display, but not the page header. Access indicates that there is
only
3
groupings that control the Page Header -- Print With Report
header,
Print
with Report Footer, and don't print with either. How do I do
this?
Thank
you in advance.
 

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