prevent notebook from waking up with keyboard

[euroeddie]

With my notebook (lenovo v100), the screen often touches the keyboard when
the lid is closed. When I have Vista in sleep mode, the lid therefore wakes
up the system. In Vista, can I turn off the function which allows the system
to wake up when the keys on the keyboard are hit? I already checked in the
Device Manager but for the keyboard there is no "Power Management" tab
which, for other devices, allows me to tell Vista not to be woken up by that
particular device. Any tips?

 

[Ian]

\Its in Power Options that you find in Control Panel where its always been.

On a notepad you system should shut down when closed not startup, that is
for safety reasons.

 

[euroeddie]

Under the "Power Options" window - which I guess has been there for a while
(I don't remember it moving around lately) - I can determine what the
computer does when the lid closes, when I press the power button, whether a
password is needed upon wakeup, etc. But I can't seem to find an option
where I can tell Vista not to wake up when a keyboard button is pressed.
Maybe I don't understand where you're finding that option in the window. Any
tips?

 

[Ian Betts]

The sleep function works like that. You set it to go to sleep after non use
for so much time, then to wake it you hit any key.

If you don't want it to wake up you shut it down completely..

Or am I missing totally what you mean?

 

[euroeddie]

Thanks for the reply. I do like the sleep function. But the problem is that
when I close my laptop lid, it sometimes touches the keyboard and wakes the
computer back up. For instance, this happens when I have the laptop in my
bag - I put the computer to sleep, close the lid, and put it into my bag.
Then, depending on the pressure on the lid, the computer might wake up while
in my bag and overheat - causing the computer to shut down entirely. Thus, I
am looking for a way to stop the computer from waking up when the keys are
pressed...

thanks!

 

[Ian Betts]

That is the most dangerous idea I have heard. That is why most laptop shut
down what the lid is closed.

 

[Marco Desloovere]

The sleep function works like that. You set it to go to sleep after non use
for so much time, then to wake it you hit any key.

That is not how it works on my laptop.

When putting the machine into hibernation mode (position of laptop lid
is unimportant), only the On/Off button will wake it up again. This also
goes for the sleep mode, if the lid was left open.
Alternatively, when going into sleep mode by closing the laptop lid,
re-opening the lid will wake the machine automatically.

Therefore, no key - other than the On/Off button - of my laptop's
keyboard can wake the machine.

Marco

 

[Marco Desloovere]

With my notebook (lenovo v100), the screen often touches the keyboard when
the lid is closed. When I have Vista in sleep mode, the lid therefore wakes
up the system. In Vista, can I turn off the function which allows the system
to wake up when the keys on the keyboard are hit? I already checked in the
Device Manager but for the keyboard there is no "Power Management" tab
which, for other devices, allows me to tell Vista not to be woken up by that
particular device. Any tips?

To know which devices may wake your laptop, open the DOS-prompt window
and enter the following line: powercfg -devicequery wake_programmable

If you do not see the keyboard listed there, your laptop may have a
faulty lid switch. On my laptop, when opening the lid - if the machine
is in sleep mode - it will automatically wake it up.

On the other hand, if the keyboard is listed *and* you have no other way
to prevent it from waking your laptop, then you may want to assign
hibernation mode or shutdown to the closing of the laptop lid.

Marco

 

[euroeddie]

Hmm, I wasn't sure if it might just be the mouse buttons, too... I entered
the command (thank you, by the way) and got this:

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.0.6000]
Copyright (c) 2006 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
C:\Users\Matthias>powercfg -devicequery wake_programmable
Motorola SM56 Data Fax Modem
HID-compliant mouse (004)
Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast Ethernet NIC
High Definition Audio Controller
AuthenTec Inc. AES1610

I don't see the keyboard, but I see the mouse. Is there a way to configure
the system not to wake with one of the devices listed here?

Thx!

 

[Marco Desloovere]

Hmm, I wasn't sure if it might just be the mouse buttons, too... I entered
the command (thank you, by the way) and got this:

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.0.6000]
Copyright (c) 2006 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
C:\Users\Matthias>powercfg -devicequery wake_programmable
Motorola SM56 Data Fax Modem
HID-compliant mouse (004)
Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast Ethernet NIC
High Definition Audio Controller
AuthenTec Inc. AES1610

What's the last device used for? Fingerprint ID?

I don't see the keyboard, but I see the mouse.

Are you absolutely sure that the keyboard wakes your laptop?
If the mouse is configured to wake your laptop, try turning that option
off in its power options.
Unless something else is wrong with your laptop, there should only be
these 5 devices listed above that can wake your laptop.
Also check the power options of the USB device drivers.
Work by elimination.

Is there a way to configure
the system not to wake with one of the devices listed here?

Yes, if you can modify the power options accordingly of the specific
device driver. You'll have to check that in the device manager.

Marco

 

[euroeddie]

The point that I am getting at is that I want to put my computer to sleep
rather than hibernation. If I put the computer into hibernation, I might as
well simply shut it down. Both hibernation and shutting down take the same
length of time. I get it that I can shut down the computer. I get it that I
can put the computer into hibernation. I want to put it to sleep and not
have it wake up accidentally.

Ian said in a reply that "That is the most dangerous idea I have heard. That
is why most laptop shut
down what the lid is closed." That discourages me that someone can think
this way. Sleep is supposed to be as safe as shutting down or hibernation.
Indeed, with my MacBook/Powerbooks that I've used over the past 6 years, I
perhaps shut down those computers once a month - the rest of the time I had
it in sleep. Microsoft has sleep and it works (almost) as well. But with my
Lenovo (v100) due to design flaw, the keys hit the screen. Hence, my
question about stopping the computer from waking up with the keyboard. But,
I've given up. The whole "sleep" and "not turning off computer" idea is
still too new for people who've never used the Mac.

Arg, I am really trying to like Windows again. And I love Vista... it's just
frustrating to learn all the new kinks and problems associated with Windows
and discuss issues with people who've never experienced it in a different
way.

 

[Marco Desloovere]

The point that I am getting at is that I want to put my computer to sleep
rather than hibernation. If I put the computer into hibernation, I might as
well simply shut it down. Both hibernation and shutting down take the same
length of time. I get it that I can shut down the computer. I get it that I
can put the computer into hibernation. I want to put it to sleep and not
have it wake up accidentally.

Ian said in a reply that "That is the most dangerous idea I have heard. That
is why most laptop shut
down what the lid is closed." That discourages me that someone can think
this way. Sleep is supposed to be as safe as shutting down or hibernation.

Learn about regular and hybrid sleep in Vista right here:
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/Help/335c6a5d-0304-4af1-b135-6bf6c124dc111033.mspx

This applies to Vista only. Obviously MS cannot tell you whether your
particular laptop manufacturer uses other sleep options.

Indeed, with my MacBook/Powerbooks that I've used over the past 6 years, I
perhaps shut down those computers once a month - the rest of the time I had
it in sleep. Microsoft has sleep and it works (almost) as well. But with my
Lenovo (v100) due to design flaw, the keys hit the screen. Hence, my
question about stopping the computer from waking up with the keyboard. But,
I've given up. The whole "sleep" and "not turning off computer" idea is
still too new for people who've never used the Mac.

For the second time: How can you be so sure that it is the laptop's
keyboard, which wakes your laptop?
Have you already put your laptop to sleep with the lid *open*, and then
tried to wake it by hitting any keys on the keyboard?
If you did, which keys can wake your laptop?

Using the command prompt window, what are the results of
"powercfg -lastwake" and "powercfg -devicequery wake_armed"?

Arg, I am really trying to like Windows again. And I love Vista... it's just
frustrating to learn all the new kinks and problems associated with Windows
and discuss issues with people who've never experienced it in a different
way.

I am not sure how to take this.
People in this group here do not *have* to help you.

Marco