Prevent edits - unexpected effects

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Thanks, that's going to be a great help....how do you address the
location/names of the control(s) in a sub-form of the 'parent' form which you
want to exempt from locking?


Allen Browne said:
You place the code into the events of the form you want to lock.

In code, use
Me
rather than
[Form]

I won't be able to follow up on this over the next week or two. Hopefully
you will be able to take it from there.

--
Allen Browne - Microsoft MVP. Perth, Western Australia

Reply to group, rather than allenbrowne at mvps dot org.

Access User said:
I have created a 'parent' form into which I am placing the form where all
this was going on before and I believe I ought to be putting the calls
into
the same events you cited in your response (below) into the 'parent' and
removing them from the sub-form. Am I correct?

Here are the calls as written

Private Sub Form_AfterUpdate()

Call LockBoundControls([Form], Nz(Me![tbl_MRA_Form].Form!Complete.Value,
False), "Complete")

End Sub

Private Sub Form_Current()

Call LockBoundControls([Form], Nz(Me![tbl_MRA_Form].Form!Complete.Value,
False), "Complete")

End Sub

...but....I can't seem to unlock the form when I click on the 'Complete'
cmdbutton?

Allen Browne said:
Call the code in Form_Current, and Form_AfterUpdate, passing:
Nz(Me.Completed.Value, False)

If the check box is true, this will lock it.
If the check box is false, this will unlock the record.
If the check box is null (e.g. at a new record), it will unlock it.


I've had a chance to implement this code and controls onto my form and
I
think I understand what it's doing and what it isn't doing. It seems to
lock
the user out from making any modifications to any records bound to the
form/subform. What would like is to allow the user to see which records
have
been entered completely into the database. I currently have a checkbox
control on it which is bound to a field in the underlying table and is
called
'Complete'. Its label is red if it's been checked and green if it
hasn't
been
and its status varies from one record to the next as the user scrolls
through
each record. But it fails to do what your cmdbutton did and that is
prevent
any edits to a record once the checkbox is selected.

Thoughts?

:

Setting AllowEdits to No for a form affects all controls on the form.
Therefore the subform control is locked well. Even unbound controls
are
unusable.

Here's an alternative approach:
Locking bound controls on a form and subforms
at:
http://allenbrowne.com/ser-56.html
This is a piece of code that leaves the form's AllowEdits property
unchanged, but sets the Locked property of the bound controls instead.
The
unbound controls are therefore still usable.

The code does lock the subforms too, but it accepts a list of controls
to
NOT lock. So, if you tell it not to lock your subform, it leaves it
unchanged.

I have a form which I have locked for edits (in properties) to avoid
accidental changes to data, and have place a command button on it to
allow edits.

There is a subform on this form which previously allowed users to
add
new associated records through the normal add record row at the
bottom. However, when I chose to prevent edits on the main form I
found that the add records row in the subform was greyed out.
Clicking
the command button to allow edits to the main form did not affect
the
subform. Has anyone got any idea why is might be happening and how I
can overcome the problem?
 
I'm not sure I followed that question, but the code as posted operates on
the form you choose (whether main form or subform.) It loops through all
controls on that form. If it finds a subform it calls itself recursive to
lock/unlock the controls in the subform also.

You don't need to know the names of the controls to lock/unlock. It figures
them out.

If you want to exempt some controls (i.e. there are some that should NOT be
locked/unlocked), just enter the control names in quotes (no form name
needed.) As it loops through the controls, it then ignores those controls.
Since it passes the exception list down to the subforms as well, you can
include the names of subform controls in the exception list.

--
Allen Browne - Microsoft MVP. Perth, Western Australia

Reply to group, rather than allenbrowne at mvps dot org.

Access User said:
Thanks, that's going to be a great help....how do you address the
location/names of the control(s) in a sub-form of the 'parent' form which
you
want to exempt from locking?


Allen Browne said:
You place the code into the events of the form you want to lock.

In code, use
Me
rather than
[Form]

I won't be able to follow up on this over the next week or two. Hopefully
you will be able to take it from there.

--
Allen Browne - Microsoft MVP. Perth, Western Australia

Reply to group, rather than allenbrowne at mvps dot org.

Access User said:
I have created a 'parent' form into which I am placing the form where
all
this was going on before and I believe I ought to be putting the calls
into
the same events you cited in your response (below) into the 'parent'
and
removing them from the sub-form. Am I correct?

Here are the calls as written

Private Sub Form_AfterUpdate()

Call LockBoundControls([Form],
Nz(Me![tbl_MRA_Form].Form!Complete.Value,
False), "Complete")

End Sub

Private Sub Form_Current()

Call LockBoundControls([Form],
Nz(Me![tbl_MRA_Form].Form!Complete.Value,
False), "Complete")

End Sub

...but....I can't seem to unlock the form when I click on the
'Complete'
cmdbutton?

:

Call the code in Form_Current, and Form_AfterUpdate, passing:
Nz(Me.Completed.Value, False)

If the check box is true, this will lock it.
If the check box is false, this will unlock the record.
If the check box is null (e.g. at a new record), it will unlock it.


I've had a chance to implement this code and controls onto my form
and
I
think I understand what it's doing and what it isn't doing. It seems
to
lock
the user out from making any modifications to any records bound to
the
form/subform. What would like is to allow the user to see which
records
have
been entered completely into the database. I currently have a
checkbox
control on it which is bound to a field in the underlying table and
is
called
'Complete'. Its label is red if it's been checked and green if it
hasn't
been
and its status varies from one record to the next as the user
scrolls
through
each record. But it fails to do what your cmdbutton did and that is
prevent
any edits to a record once the checkbox is selected.

Thoughts?

:

Setting AllowEdits to No for a form affects all controls on the
form.
Therefore the subform control is locked well. Even unbound controls
are
unusable.

Here's an alternative approach:
Locking bound controls on a form and subforms
at:
http://allenbrowne.com/ser-56.html
This is a piece of code that leaves the form's AllowEdits property
unchanged, but sets the Locked property of the bound controls
instead.
The
unbound controls are therefore still usable.

The code does lock the subforms too, but it accepts a list of
controls
to
NOT lock. So, if you tell it not to lock your subform, it leaves it
unchanged.

I have a form which I have locked for edits (in properties) to
avoid
accidental changes to data, and have place a command button on it
to
allow edits.

There is a subform on this form which previously allowed users to
add
new associated records through the normal add record row at the
bottom. However, when I chose to prevent edits on the main form I
found that the add records row in the subform was greyed out.
Clicking
the command button to allow edits to the main form did not affect
the
subform. Has anyone got any idea why is might be happening and
how I
can overcome the problem?
 
Hi

Using the following now

Private Sub Form_AfterUpdate()

Call LockBoundControls(Me, Nz(Complete.Value, False), "Complete")

End Sub

Private Sub Form_Current()

Call LockBoundControls(Me, Nz(Complete.Value, False), "Complete")

End Sub

I get an error 424 - object required?



Allen Browne said:
I'm not sure I followed that question, but the code as posted operates on
the form you choose (whether main form or subform.) It loops through all
controls on that form. If it finds a subform it calls itself recursive to
lock/unlock the controls in the subform also.

You don't need to know the names of the controls to lock/unlock. It figures
them out.

If you want to exempt some controls (i.e. there are some that should NOT be
locked/unlocked), just enter the control names in quotes (no form name
needed.) As it loops through the controls, it then ignores those controls.
Since it passes the exception list down to the subforms as well, you can
include the names of subform controls in the exception list.

--
Allen Browne - Microsoft MVP. Perth, Western Australia

Reply to group, rather than allenbrowne at mvps dot org.

Access User said:
Thanks, that's going to be a great help....how do you address the
location/names of the control(s) in a sub-form of the 'parent' form which
you
want to exempt from locking?


Allen Browne said:
You place the code into the events of the form you want to lock.

In code, use
Me
rather than
[Form]

I won't be able to follow up on this over the next week or two. Hopefully
you will be able to take it from there.

--
Allen Browne - Microsoft MVP. Perth, Western Australia

Reply to group, rather than allenbrowne at mvps dot org.

I have created a 'parent' form into which I am placing the form where
all
this was going on before and I believe I ought to be putting the calls
into
the same events you cited in your response (below) into the 'parent'
and
removing them from the sub-form. Am I correct?

Here are the calls as written

Private Sub Form_AfterUpdate()

Call LockBoundControls([Form],
Nz(Me![tbl_MRA_Form].Form!Complete.Value,
False), "Complete")

End Sub

Private Sub Form_Current()

Call LockBoundControls([Form],
Nz(Me![tbl_MRA_Form].Form!Complete.Value,
False), "Complete")

End Sub

...but....I can't seem to unlock the form when I click on the
'Complete'
cmdbutton?

:

Call the code in Form_Current, and Form_AfterUpdate, passing:
Nz(Me.Completed.Value, False)

If the check box is true, this will lock it.
If the check box is false, this will unlock the record.
If the check box is null (e.g. at a new record), it will unlock it.


I've had a chance to implement this code and controls onto my form
and
I
think I understand what it's doing and what it isn't doing. It seems
to
lock
the user out from making any modifications to any records bound to
the
form/subform. What would like is to allow the user to see which
records
have
been entered completely into the database. I currently have a
checkbox
control on it which is bound to a field in the underlying table and
is
called
'Complete'. Its label is red if it's been checked and green if it
hasn't
been
and its status varies from one record to the next as the user
scrolls
through
each record. But it fails to do what your cmdbutton did and that is
prevent
any edits to a record once the checkbox is selected.

Thoughts?

:

Setting AllowEdits to No for a form affects all controls on the
form.
Therefore the subform control is locked well. Even unbound controls
are
unusable.

Here's an alternative approach:
Locking bound controls on a form and subforms
at:
http://allenbrowne.com/ser-56.html
This is a piece of code that leaves the form's AllowEdits property
unchanged, but sets the Locked property of the bound controls
instead.
The
unbound controls are therefore still usable.

The code does lock the subforms too, but it accepts a list of
controls
to
NOT lock. So, if you tell it not to lock your subform, it leaves it
unchanged.

I have a form which I have locked for edits (in properties) to
avoid
accidental changes to data, and have place a command button on it
to
allow edits.

There is a subform on this form which previously allowed users to
add
new associated records through the normal add record row at the
bottom. However, when I chose to prevent edits on the main form I
found that the add records row in the subform was greyed out.
Clicking
the command button to allow edits to the main form did not affect
the
subform. Has anyone got any idea why is might be happening and
how I
can overcome the problem?
 
Access User said:
Using the following now

Private Sub Form_AfterUpdate()

Call LockBoundControls(Me, Nz(Complete.Value, False), "Complete")

End Sub

Private Sub Form_Current()

Call LockBoundControls(Me, Nz(Complete.Value, False), "Complete")

End Sub

I get an error 424 - object required?

Will have to let you do your own debugging.
 
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