Pretty good explanation of x86-64 by HP

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George Macdonald

I've switched over to Thunderbird now for all mail and news (except
binary news). Agent is still the one to use for binary news. Outlook
Express is still the one to use to gather dust. :)
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Thanks but even that will not fix the click throughs where the link does
not point to a .PDF or whatever directly. I'm going to take a look at
Firefox/Thunderbird after the holiday season - need to get confidence with
new tools which are used for Web purchasing, lest I get hung in the middle
of a transaction

Rgds, George Macdonald

"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??
 
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Larry Elmore

Yousuf said:
I've switched over to Thunderbird now for all mail and news (except
binary news). Agent is still the one to use for binary news. Outlook
Express is still the one to use to gather dust. :)
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I thought it gathered flies...
 
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keith

I've switched over to Thunderbird now for all mail and news (except
binary news). Agent is still the one to use for binary news. Outlook
Express is still the one to use to gather dust. :)
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Baloney! The best of the free binary Win-newsreaders is Gravity! It
beats the crap out of Agent for text-only groups too. FireFox is the way
to go for a web browser and I'll likey switch to T-Bird for email, since
my Win2K systeem ate itself (only the stufff that goes to the Inet) and
the folks at BluePrint don't see it in themselves to send me a new key.
 
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keith

Thanks but even that will not fix the click throughs where the link does
not point to a .PDF or whatever directly. I'm going to take a look at
Firefox/Thunderbird after the holiday season - need to get confidence with
new tools which are used for Web purchasing, lest I get hung in the middle
of a transaction
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Firefox is awesome! Just do it! I've been using it for six months and
the only sites it barfs on are those that look got IE6 and barf on all
else. Even M$'s game site works with Firefox, under Linux no less.
 
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keith

Well, I was thinking "draws flies" in the way dog shit does, but I
didn't word that well. :-(
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You did well enuff. I wuz trying to bring your virtual-visual back to
computereese. ;-)
 
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Bill Davidsen

Yousuf said:
I've switched over to Thunderbird now for all mail and news (except
binary news). Agent is still the one to use for binary news. Outlook
Express is still the one to use to gather dust. :)
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Pan. Not all that great for text, doesn't seem to want to forward
articles as mail, but for multipart binaries it is the nuts.
 
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Israel T

Bill Davidsen said:
Pan. Not all that great for text, doesn't seem to want to forward
articles as mail, but for multipart binaries it is the nuts.
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Gnus.
Its functionality is a superset of the union of all other newsreaders :)
 
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John Savard

Well jsavard is using an *old* version of Free Agent but even the 1.93 I'm
using doesn't have a right click and "Save Link Target As.." I dunno what
the big deal is on either side here - copy/paste of a URL is always coming
up as a nuisance for file downloads, especially with the Adobe reader 6.0
being so damned slow to get started
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.... I use 4.0 in my old version of Netscape, but I have 5.0 and 6.0
installed on my machine as well for things that don't display, or don't
display well, in 4.0.

But the small awkwardness of displaying the PDF in a browser, instead of
just downloading it was the lesser of the two issues I raised. Providing
instead, where possible, a page with a link to a PDF document allows
also navigating to *the rest of the site* it came from, which may
contain interesting related items.

Of course, one can always try truncating the URL. But that doesn't
always work well, you may have to go up too many levels.

John Savard
http://home.ecn.ab.ca/~jsavard/index.html
 
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George Macdonald

... I use 4.0 in my old version of Netscape, but I have 5.0 and 6.0
installed on my machine as well for things that don't display, or don't
display well, in 4.0.
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I had to give up with 5.0 (5.1?) - it was driving me crazy with lock-ups in
Win98 on Exit - others had the same problem and I was never able to get to
the bottom of it... though I suspected a conflict between a plugin and IE
5.5SP2 and maybe Mozilla 1.4. I'd been resisting going to 6.0 since it is
a pig, buggy -- though 6.0.2 has helped there -- and I hate the new search.
But the small awkwardness of displaying the PDF in a browser, instead of
just downloading it was the lesser of the two issues I raised. Providing
instead, where possible, a page with a link to a PDF document allows
also navigating to *the rest of the site* it came from, which may
contain interesting related items.
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OK I see what you mean. The first point is less important to me now since
I just built a new system but it was extremely irritating with my old PIII
450. Before anybody jumps on this, this is also a side effect of the many
Web sites which omit or specify the wrong Mime type for files and prevent
Mozilla from taking the proper Helper App action; apparently IE doesn't
care about such things.

Rgds, George Macdonald

"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??
 
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keith

Pan. Not all that great for text, doesn't seem to want to forward
articles as mail, but for multipart binaries it is the nuts.
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I guess I simply don't understand PAN, then. I find it rather good for
reading text groups, less so for posting (speel chequer?), and horrible
for ninary groups. Gravity has a wonderful Binary reading tool, that PAN
can only dream about.
 
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Craig Bergren

You have to set up a profile that allows you to mail, it's not the same as
posting. Mail has different rules than Usenet. You may have to identify
yourself with a real email address for example.
I guess I simply don't understand PAN, then. I find it rather good for
reading text groups, less so for posting (speel chequer?), and horrible
for ninary groups. Gravity has a wonderful Binary reading tool, that PAN
can only dream about.
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Perhaps I could be of some help. When you see red words, they are
misspelled. If you see a red word, click on the right mouse button for
suggestions from the dictionary. It took me a long time to find this
feature because the spelling suggestions only come up when you right
click and only when the mouse is over a red word and there is no "batch"
spell checker on the menu bar.
 
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keith

You have to set up a profile that allows you to mail, it's not the same as
posting. Mail has different rules than Usenet. You may have to identify
yourself with a real email address for example.


Perhaps I could be of some help. When you see red words, they are
misspelled. If you see a red word, click on the right mouse button for
suggestions from the dictionary. It took me a long time to find this
feature because the spelling suggestions only come up when you right
click and only when the mouse is over a red word and there is no "batch"
spell checker on the menu bar.
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Hmmm, perhaps I'm missing something in the setup then. There are no redd
worrds herre. KNode works for me the way you suggest above, but its
off-line reading is non-existant making on-line reading tedious, at best.
It's also *slow* as dirt, even on this Opteron 146.
 
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Bill Davidsen

keith said:
I guess I simply don't understand PAN, then. I find it rather good for
reading text groups, less so for posting (speel chequer?), and horrible
for ninary groups. Gravity has a wonderful Binary reading tool, that PAN
can only dream about.
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You can go to a group, one with many binary posts, like "adult digital
images" or many multipart binaries, like alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.blues,
and select what you want to download, click "save attachment" and have
it download and save hundreds of posts, assembling the multipart ones,
saving all of it in various directories, using as many threads (sockets)
as you are allowed to use, and then go to bed.

I just added another 200GB drive to my home system...

Another nice one is nget, will grab missing parts from another server.
 
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