Presets for MM2

[AgedTramp]

Hi.

I've been using MM2 for a while and have started looking for another package
to use instead, simply because of the preset controls.

When I'm about to capture from VHS recorder. The default input device is
for "cable", "channel 4". My VHS recorder is aerial, channel 48. So to I
have to reset this every time I wish to capture.

My TV card has sound input and processing capabilities(albiet mono). the
preset in MM2 is "line in", so I have to reset it each time I want to
capture from this device(analogue cam-corder via TV card).

Which files contain these Presets?

I would like to edit them so that they default to the ones that I actually
use.

Sam.

 

[whoever]

I've been using MM2 for a while and have started looking for another
package to use instead, simply because of the preset controls.

When I'm about to capture from VHS recorder. The default input device
is for "cable", "channel 4". My VHS recorder is aerial, channel 48.
So to I have to reset this every time I wish to capture.

My TV card has sound input and processing capabilities(albiet mono).
the preset in MM2 is "line in", so I have to reset it each time I want
to capture from this device(analogue cam-corder via TV card).

Which files contain these Presets?

I'm not certain about this, but I don't think those "presets" are in MM2 -
I think MM2 just calls the drivers for your input card, and it's those
drivers that have the presets defined.

 

[AgedTramp]

No they're not there. My TV card is set to region_I, but MM2 defaults to
region_B.

My Tv card has a "Suite manager" which allows me to change the available TV
channels and add or remove other devices, when using the manager, all
devices/channels default to region_i, and aerial(UK), but MM2 defaults to
cable(i.e. US).

The programmer must have preset this(cable) setting into a file somewhere
since it's the second in the list of options.

It's not the first time that I've noticed microsoft making their programs
for americans only, with the rest of the world added using a seperate
file/plug-in.

 

[Just a nutter]

No they're not there. My TV card is set to region_I, but MM2 defaults to
region_B.

My Tv card has a "Suite manager" which allows me to change the available TV
channels and add or remove other devices, when using the manager, all
devices/channels default to region_i, and aerial(UK), but MM2 defaults to
cable(i.e. US).

The programmer must have preset this(cable) setting into a file somewhere
since it's the second in the list of options.

It's not the first time that I've noticed microsoft making their programs
for americans only, with the rest of the world added using a seperate
file/plug-in.

We have cable here in the UK as well you know, and although I am not
certain, Region_i and UK will probably have been read from your system
variables...Region_i is Pal you see. That is the sort of thing you would
hope for with software that you buy (you do not always get that finesse with
paid for software though). Its a little much to expect free software to do
everything for you wouldn't you say? You might want to test this out for
yourself. In your region/system variables change the setting to indicate you
live in.....USA say...reboot and run your TV manager again...Would it still
say UK I wonder. Be interesting to find out.

All the best.....

 

[AgedTramp]

The region_i setting is from the cards presets.

regions available are:-
PAL: b g h i d k m n ncombo
NTSC: Japan m
SECAM

Once selected the setting is saved to a file.

Which is why I asked where the preset files for MM2 are.

Sam.

 

[Just a nutter]

If this appears twice...sorry about that...Operator Error !!

No they're not there. My TV card is set to region_I, but MM2 defaults to
region_B.

My Tv card has a "Suite manager" which allows me to change the available TV
channels and add or remove other devices, when using the manager, all
devices/channels default to region_i, and aerial(UK), but MM2 defaults to
cable(i.e. US).

The programmer must have preset this(cable) setting into a file somewhere
since it's the second in the list of options.

It's not the first time that I've noticed microsoft making their programs
for americans only, with the rest of the world added using a seperate
file/plug-in.

We have cable here in the UK as well you know, and although I am not
certain, Region_i and UK will probably have been read from your system
variables...Region_i is Pal you see. That is the sort of thing you would
hope for with software that you buy (you do not always get that finesse with
paid for software though). Its a little much to expect free software to do
everything for you wouldn't you say? You might want to test this out for
yourself. In your region/system variables change the setting to indicate you
live in.....USA say...reboot and run your TV manager again...Would it still
say UK I wonder. Be interesting to find out.

All the best.....

 

[whoever]

No they're not there. My TV card is set to region_I, but MM2 defaults
to region_B.

You mean the program you use to watch TV changes the setting to region_I
when it calls this device. That doesn't mean that the actual drivers don't
default to Region_B.

Try any other app that can capture from a video source (Netmeeting, for
example). Does it use Region_I or Region_B?

My Tv card has a "Suite manager" which allows me to change the
available TV channels and add or remove other devices, when using the
manager, all devices/channels default to region_i, and aerial(UK),
but MM2 defaults to cable(i.e. US).

MM2 uses the Device defaults. It doesn't have any innate knowledge of your
Video device, and it doesn't know anything about switching channels. (The
tool that you use to change the settings when you run MM2 is the tool that
shipped with the device - it's not MM2 code). Your Suite Manager, on the
other hand, knows all about the device, so it can have a settings file that
over-rides the device defaults. If it won't actually reset those defaults
so that other applications get them automatically, that's a flaw in your
suite manager, or the device drivers for that device, not a flaw in the 3rd
party applications that try to use that device.

The programmer must have preset this(cable) setting into a file
somewhere since it's the second in the list of options.

Yup - except that the programmer involved is the one that wrote the device
drivers for the manufacturer of the card, not the programmer who wrote MM2.

It's not the first time that I've noticed microsoft making their
programs for americans only, with the rest of the world added using a
seperate file/plug-in.

Well, it's not Microsofts fault this time, and the chances are that you
misinterpreted the data the last time too.

 

[AgedTramp]

In other words... No there are no files that can be edited to change the
presets in MM2.

 

[AgedTramp]

That was not a good suggestion...

Netmeeting crashed while I was trying to configure it.

 

[Just a nutter]

The region_i setting is from the cards presets.

regions available are:-
PAL: b g h i d k m n ncombo
NTSC: Japan m
SECAM

Yes exactly......Region I is the type of PAL we use in the UK....your
software looks up where you are (From the XP system variables that you
edited when you set XP up) and then uses that information in conduction with
a list of information that it has in order to put what it believes you want
(because of your locale) into the dialogue box....or are you saying that you
and all other purchasers of that piece of equipment have the technical know
how so that they can pre-set (in the case of the UK) Region I etc. etc.....

Anyway, its quite academic...MM2 as far as I know, and according to others,
does not have any list of pre-sets...its not the function of MM2 to deal
with TV stations or any particular type of camera or VCD device
etc....that's the responsibility of the device that you have plugged into
your computer Via its driver interface....clearly this TV card via its
driver interface does not convey the correct info to MM2. The ONLY variable
that MM2 really wants to know about when talking of DV quality video is
whether its NTSC at 30fps or PAL at 25fps...it does not care whether that
PAL video is shown in Region B G H or I

All the best.....

All the best

 

[Just a nutter]

In other words... No there are no files that can be edited to change the
presets in MM2.

That is more or less what you were told in the very first reply you had
on this issue

All the best.....

 

[AgedTramp]

Yes exactly......Region I is the type of PAL we use in the UK....your
software looks up where you are (From the XP system variables that you
edited when you set XP up) and then uses that information in conduction with
a list of information that it has in order to put what it believes you want
(because of your locale) into the dialogue box....or are you saying that you
and all other purchasers of that piece of equipment have the technical know
how so that they can pre-set (in the case of the UK) Region I etc. etc.....

But MM2 is NOT using the information I gave it when I setup xp... I told XP
English(UK) as language/region.

Anyway, its quite academic...MM2 as far as I know, and according to others,
does not have any list of pre-sets...its not the function of MM2 to deal
with TV stations or any particular type of camera or VCD device
etc....that's the responsibility of the device that you have plugged into
your computer Via its driver interface....clearly this TV card via its
driver interface does not convey the correct info to MM2. The ONLY variable
that MM2 really wants to know about when talking of DV quality video is
whether its NTSC at 30fps or PAL at 25fps...it does not care whether that
PAL video is shown in Region B G H or I

Then why is it set to channel 4/cable? and why does it NOT save my adjusted
settings for next use?

Other capture programs access my TV cards settings files, and adjusts their
"user settings" to suit.

 

[Just a nutter]

But MM2 is NOT using the information I gave it when I setup xp... I told XP
English(UK) as language/region.


Then why is it set to channel 4/cable? and why does it NOT save my adjusted
settings for next use?

Movie Maker 2 does NOT know anything about your device driver, in the
same way as it knows nothing at all about any of the devices I have plugged
into my system...It is the responcibility of the driver interface (installed
when you put this TV card into your machine) to do ALL of the work in that
area. Clearly there is some fault with it...as others have told you, it is
nothing to do with MM2.

Other capture programs access my TV cards settings files, and adjusts their
"user settings" to suit.

Well you get exactly what you paid for and as you paid nothing for
MM2.....I would not be all that upset because it does not do something that
other software can

Anyway in furtherance of PAL-I here is a link that will show what I was
talking about, if you scroll down the list it provides you will see what I
mean.

http://www.psreporter.com/pal_system_tv_standard.html

All the best.....

 

[Just a nutter]

Hi again,

As you live in the UK, see if you can get your hands on the official
Windows XP DVD edition 13 Christmas 2002.

On there is a program I discovered last night. It is called MovieXone. I
have found it a little hard myself because it is one of those programs that
is made to look as if it is a solid device that you might have on your
desk...a tendency with todays software design that gets right up my nose!!!

Its a truly neat piece of software all the same. It uses non-linear
editing methods and I just love it. One of the very neat tricks you can do
with it is to put a video inside the main video...;imagine (on the news)
where a broadcaster is speaking to a reporter "out there" via a wide TV
screen that is at a slight angle to you the viewer...Hope I have explained
that well enough...anyway, it seems to have an accomplished interface that
might be more to your liking.

I am not sure if its legal, but, if you cannot get it, I will email it
to you (providing you are on broadband that is)

All the best.....

 

[Just a nutter]

Hi Again,

I have just checked...its only 29Meg, so even if you are not on
broadband, it will not be a major task.


All the best.....

 

[whoever]

That was not a good suggestion...

Netmeeting crashed while I was trying to configure it.

Do you have any other video capture software, besides MM2 and the software
that came with the card?

I haven't had a chance to try it, but can you access you card with this
tool?

http://www.shrinkwrapvb.com/vbvidcap.htm