Practice presentation using the Presenter View and one monitor

G

Guest

I want to practice my presentation on my laptop when away from the office
(airplane, hotel room) when my secondary monitor (projector) is not available
and use the presenter view (as that will be the method during the
presentation). The edit mode is not useful as I use many overlapping
elements on one slide and can not see the animation order and my notes at the
same time. Isn't there a way to display the presenter view with only one
monitor so that practice sessions can be rehearsed?

Maybe a 3 party viewer or a registry setting that bypasses the dual monitor
check?
 
B

Bill Dilworth

Hi Phil,

I am not aware of any software that is built with this in mind. PowerPoint
only allows presenter view when the computer can use it.

You may have better luck using the Ctl+Start Show command that allows for a
1/4 screen presentation on the primary monitor. If another 1/4 screen is
used for the edit view, it may be enough. Sorry, there is no better
solution that I know of.


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S

Steve Rindsberg

I want to practice my presentation on my laptop when away from the office
(airplane, hotel room) when my secondary monitor (projector) is not available
and use the presenter view (as that will be the method during the
presentation). The edit mode is not useful as I use many overlapping
elements on one slide and can not see the animation order and my notes at the
same time. Isn't there a way to display the presenter view with only one
monitor so that practice sessions can be rehearsed?

Y'know, that's one heck of a good idea.
I think in theory it'd just be a matter of switching primary and secondary
monitors to confuse PPT into putting the presenter view on the built in,
physically present, pretending to be secondary monitor.

Hey Chirag? What do you think? (Chirag's our resident wizard at this stuff)
 
G

Guest

It is possible to create a "virtual" secondary monitor. Rather than create
one myself, I was hoping NetMeeting would help here. But it doesn't seem to.
Some background on my experiment: NetMeeting operates by creating a virtual
monitor and instructs applications to paint the windows on that monitor.
Whatever gets painted on that monitor is intercepted by NetMeeting and sent
across the wire. The part that I was interested in was NetMeeting creates the
virtual monitor even when it is not in a conference call. I was hoping to get
PowerPoint to use the virtual monitor for the slide show and primary monitor
for presenter view. PowerPoint rightly sees the second monitor in the
presence of NetMeeting but somehow it is not able to use it as a real monitor
for slide shows. Seems like I need to build one.

- Chirag

PowerShow - View multiple PowerPoint slide shows simultaneously
http://officeone.mvps.org/powershow/powershow.html
 
D

Dave

The easiest way to achieve this is to put a dummy load on the monitor
socket fooling the laptop in to thinking it has an external device. We
had to use these with older laptops with ATI cards and Sony projectors
as they refused to switch outputs on toggle as they could not recognise
the projector.
 
G

Guest

Thanks for your help. I had also searched the web for a tool that would give
me a second virtual desktop/view but was unsuccessful. Please let me know
how your "build" goes.
Phil B
 
G

Guest

Bill Thank you for this good alternative! I would still like to see
Microsoft implement this ability though.
Phil B
 
E

Echo S

What is a "dummy load"?
(Asking because I really don't know, and I'd like to.)

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Echo [MS PPT MVP]
http://www.echosvoice.com


Dave said:
The easiest way to achieve this is to put a dummy load on the monitor
socket fooling the laptop in to thinking it has an external device. We
had to use these with older laptops with ATI cards and Sony projectors
as they refused to switch outputs on toggle as they could not recognise
the projector.
available
 
D

Dave

It's basically a vga plug with a set of resisters soldered across pins
to put a "load" on the output of the graphics card fooling it in to
thinking there is a monitor on the end.

We use them for toggling laptops without the need to plug a projector
in, otherwise you have a lot of speakers flapping when they have nothing
on the screen. :)
 
S

Steve Rindsberg

It is possible to create a "virtual" secondary monitor. Rather than create
one myself, I was hoping NetMeeting would help here. But it doesn't seem to.
Some background on my experiment: NetMeeting operates by creating a virtual
monitor and instructs applications to paint the windows on that monitor.
Whatever gets painted on that monitor is intercepted by NetMeeting and sent
across the wire. The part that I was interested in was NetMeeting creates the
virtual monitor even when it is not in a conference call. I was hoping to get
PowerPoint to use the virtual monitor for the slide show and primary monitor
for presenter view. PowerPoint rightly sees the second monitor in the
presence of NetMeeting but somehow it is not able to use it as a real monitor
for slide shows. Seems like I need to build one.

Is it a huge effort? It seems that this might be of fairly limited appeal in terms
of numbers of users, but very appealing indeed to the ones who need to use it.
 
E

Echo S

Interesting. Thanks for the info!

Echo
It's basically a vga plug with a set of resisters soldered across pins
to put a "load" on the output of the graphics card fooling it in to
thinking there is a monitor on the end.

We use them for toggling laptops without the need to plug a projector
in, otherwise you have a lot of speakers flapping when they have
nothing on the screen. :)
 
G

Guest

Dave my electronics guru wants to know the details of the "dummy plug"
"Can you describe the pinout for the db15 and the value of the resistors for
the pin combinations."
Thanks
Phil
 
D

Dave

I think from memory the video signals run with a 75 ohm load and the
sync with 510 ohm load, and depending how you short the DDC1 and DDC2
pins determines the resolution.

But why go to all that trouble, have a look at any commercial AV site
for SVGA Termination Adapter. Have a look at the Extron site for
starters.....
 

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