Portrait & Landscape

B

Bob S

I have a document in which I have a table on the first page which I want in
Lanscape format. The other 2 pages of the document I want in portrait
format. Whenever I set the first page to landscape, the second is set that
way as well. If I go to the second page to set it to portrait, my first
page is set to portrait as well. How can I correct this problem?
 
H

Howard Kaikow

You have to disconnect the sections.
Make the section breaks independent of each other by choosing "Different
first page" and "different odd and even" in the page setup.
 
T

TF

Bob

You cannot have different orientation in a section of a document, so what
you need to do is to start your document in Landscape and then at the end of
the first page insert a Section Break, Next Page. Now with the cursor in the
second section (page 2), if you go to File, Page Setup, you will see that
you now have the option to choose 'From this Point Forward' or 'This
Section'. Change the orientation now and only the second section will
change.

--
Terry Farrell - Word MVP
http://word.mvps.org/

:I have a document in which I have a table on the first page which I want in
: Lanscape format. The other 2 pages of the document I want in portrait
: format. Whenever I set the first page to landscape, the second is set
that
: way as well. If I go to the second page to set it to portrait, my first
: page is set to portrait as well. How can I correct this problem?
:
:
 
B

Bob S

Terry, I noticed a smaill problem as I did this that I would like to ask
about. On my second page, which is now portrait, two of my paragraphs have
first lines which go off the page. It seem as though they are ignoring the
carriage returns and margins. Could you give insight and solution to this
as well?

Thanks again.
 
T

TF

Bob

First thing I'd check is the paragraph format to make sure that they are not
outdented (i.e. negative indent applied). Is that the problem?

Terry

: Terry, I noticed a smaill problem as I did this that I would like to ask
: about. On my second page, which is now portrait, two of my paragraphs
have
: first lines which go off the page. It seem as though they are ignoring
the
: carriage returns and margins. Could you give insight and solution to this
: as well?
:
: Thanks again.
:
: "TF" <terryfarrell%40%6d%73%6e%2ecom> wrote in message
: : > Bob
: >
: > You cannot have different orientation in a section of a document, so
what
: > you need to do is to start your document in Landscape and then at the
end
: of
: > the first page insert a Section Break, Next Page. Now with the cursor in
: the
: > second section (page 2), if you go to File, Page Setup, you will see
that
: > you now have the option to choose 'From this Point Forward' or 'This
: > Section'. Change the orientation now and only the second section will
: > change.
: >
: > --
: > Terry Farrell - Word MVP
: > http://word.mvps.org/
: >
: > : > :I have a document in which I have a table on the first page which I
want
: in
: > : Lanscape format. The other 2 pages of the document I want in portrait
: > : format. Whenever I set the first page to landscape, the second is set
: > that
: > : way as well. If I go to the second page to set it to portrait, my
first
: > : page is set to portrait as well. How can I correct this problem?
: > :
: > :
: >
: >
:
:
 
B

Bob S

Thanks Terry. There was no Outdent. But I did find a "right indent" to the
right of the right margin. Removing that in each case fixed the problem.
Thanks.
 
S

Suzanne S. Barnhill

A right indent to the right of the right margin is a negative indent or
"outdent."

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.
 
B

Bob S

Thanks Suzanne. This is a new term for me. Is an outdent ever used for
anything useful? Or is it a term for a condition which is always
problemsome?
 
S

Suzanne S. Barnhill

It's very useful. For example, in some books you see headings that are
"outdented" into the left margin (so that they hang out to the left of the
body text). And users often inquire about how to make headers extend beyond
the margins (to put a page number in the outside margin, for example).

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.
 
T

TF

Bob

Our standard documents have a very wide left margin which is used for
putting in Sidebars, notes and Histograms into our document. The margins for
the Headers and Footers are outdented (on the left) so the Company Logo and
Page Numbers extend into this area. Heading 1 is also slightly outdented to
make them stand out from the text. SO yes, outdenting is very useful.

Terry Farrell

: Thanks Suzanne. This is a new term for me. Is an outdent ever used for
: anything useful? Or is it a term for a condition which is always
: problemsome?
:
: : > A right indent to the right of the right margin is a negative indent or
: > "outdent."
: >
: > --
: > Suzanne S. Barnhill
: > Microsoft MVP (Word)
: > Words into Type
: > Fairhope, Alabama USA
:
: > Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup
: so
: > all may benefit.
: >
: > : > > Thanks Terry. There was no Outdent. But I did find a "right indent"
to
: > the
: > > right of the right margin. Removing that in each case fixed the
: problem.
: > > Thanks.
: > >
: > >
: > > "TF" <terryfarrell%40%6d%73%6e%2ecom> wrote in message
: > > : > > > Bob
: > > >
: > > > First thing I'd check is the paragraph format to make sure that they
: are
: > > not
: > > > outdented (i.e. negative indent applied). Is that the problem?
: > > >
: > > > Terry
: > > >
: > > > : > > > : Terry, I noticed a smaill problem as I did this that I would like
to
: > ask
: > > > : about. On my second page, which is now portrait, two of my
: paragraphs
: > > > have
: > > > : first lines which go off the page. It seem as though they are
: > ignoring
: > > > the
: > > > : carriage returns and margins. Could you give insight and solution
: to
: > > this
: > > > : as well?
: > > > :
: > > > : Thanks again.
: > > > :
: > > > : "TF" <terryfarrell%40%6d%73%6e%2ecom> wrote in message
: > > > : : > > > : > Bob
: > > > : >
: > > > : > You cannot have different orientation in a section of a
document,
: so
: > > > what
: > > > : > you need to do is to start your document in Landscape and then
at
: > the
: > > > end
: > > > : of
: > > > : > the first page insert a Section Break, Next Page. Now with the
: > cursor
: > > in
: > > > : the
: > > > : > second section (page 2), if you go to File, Page Setup, you will
: see
: > > > that
: > > > : > you now have the option to choose 'From this Point Forward' or
: 'This
: > > > : > Section'. Change the orientation now and only the second section
: > will
: > > > : > change.
: > > > : >
: > > > : > --
: > > > : > Terry Farrell - Word MVP
: > > > : > http://word.mvps.org/
: > > > : >
: > > > : > : > > > : > :I have a document in which I have a table on the first page
which
: I
: > > > want
: > > > : in
: > > > : > : Lanscape format. The other 2 pages of the document I want in
: > > portrait
: > > > : > : format. Whenever I set the first page to landscape, the
second
: is
: > > set
: > > > : > that
: > > > : > : way as well. If I go to the second page to set it to
portrait,
: my
: > > > first
: > > > : > : page is set to portrait as well. How can I correct this
: problem?
: > > > : > :
: > > > : > :
: > > > : >
: > > > : >
: > > > :
: > > > :
: > > >
: > > >
: > >
: > >
: >
:
:
 
B

Bob S

Thank you Terry (& Suzanne) for the education on the usefulness of outdents.
I gave it a try and found how to add a tab in the left margin and in the
right margin. I also found that I could put some text in the right margin
if I placed a tab there and then tabbed over to it. However, I have not
found a way to put text in the left margin as you were describing, Terry.
How do you do that?

Thanks again.
Bob
 
S

Suzanne S. Barnhill

You do this by giving the paragraph/style a negative left indent.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.
 
B

Bob S

Thanks Suzanne. You have always been so helpful. Could you also educate me
on using the help function within Word (Office 2003)? Whenever, I type in a
topic in the help box at the top right corner of the screen, I get 20-30
results, which initially seems encouraging. Howver, very few of these
articles have anything to do with my topic. I suspect I must be using the
help feature wrongly. Could you give some tips?

Thanks again,
Bob
 
S

Suzanne S. Barnhill

No, you're not using it wrong. Office 2003 Help just sucks. The Softies
responsible for providing "content" are aware of this (they could hardly
avoid it, since the MVPs dinned it into them at the last Summit), and if you
use the online (Web) Help option, you may at least get some better material.
New content is being created all the time, and you can find it at Office
Online. The page specifically for Word is
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/FX010857991033.aspx.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.
 
T

TF

Bob

If you get an answer to that question PLEASE let us all know the answer!

Terry Farrell


: Thanks Suzanne. You have always been so helpful. Could you also educate
me
: on using the help function within Word (Office 2003)? Whenever, I type in
a
: topic in the help box at the top right corner of the screen, I get 20-30
: results, which initially seems encouraging. Howver, very few of these
: articles have anything to do with my topic. I suspect I must be using the
: help feature wrongly. Could you give some tips?
:
: Thanks again,
: Bob
:
:
: : > You do this by giving the paragraph/style a negative left indent.
: >
: > --
: > Suzanne S. Barnhill
: > Microsoft MVP (Word)
: > Words into Type
: > Fairhope, Alabama USA
:
: > Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup
: so
: > all may benefit.
: >
: > : > > Thank you Terry (& Suzanne) for the education on the usefulness of
: > outdents.
: > > I gave it a try and found how to add a tab in the left margin and in
the
: > > right margin. I also found that I could put some text in the right
: margin
: > > if I placed a tab there and then tabbed over to it. However, I have
not
: > > found a way to put text in the left margin as you were describing,
: Terry.
: > > How do you do that?
: > >
: > > Thanks again.
: > > Bob
: > >
: > >
: > > "TF" <terryfarrell%40%6d%73%6e%2ecom> wrote in message
: > > : > > > Bob
: > > >
: > > > Our standard documents have a very wide left margin which is used
for
: > > > putting in Sidebars, notes and Histograms into our document. The
: margins
: > > for
: > > > the Headers and Footers are outdented (on the left) so the Company
: Logo
: > > and
: > > > Page Numbers extend into this area. Heading 1 is also slightly
: outdented
: > > to
: > > > make them stand out from the text. SO yes, outdenting is very
useful.
: > > >
: > > > Terry Farrell
: > > >
: > > > : > > > : Thanks Suzanne. This is a new term for me. Is an outdent ever
used
: > for
: > > > : anything useful? Or is it a term for a condition which is always
: > > > : problemsome?
: > > > :
: > > > : : > > > : > A right indent to the right of the right margin is a negative
: indent
: > > or
: > > > : > "outdent."
: > > > : >
: > > > : > --
: > > > : > Suzanne S. Barnhill
: > > > : > Microsoft MVP (Word)
: > > > : > Words into Type
: > > > : > Fairhope, Alabama USA
: > > > :
: > > > : > Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
: > > > newsgroup
: > > > : so
: > > > : > all may benefit.
: > > > : >
: > > > : > : > > > : > > Thanks Terry. There was no Outdent. But I did find a "right
: > > indent"
: > > > to
: > > > : > the
: > > > : > > right of the right margin. Removing that in each case fixed
the
: > > > : problem.
: > > > : > > Thanks.
: > > > : > >
: > > > : > >
: > > > : > > "TF" <terryfarrell%40%6d%73%6e%2ecom> wrote in message
: > > > : > > : > > > : > > > Bob
: > > > : > > >
: > > > : > > > First thing I'd check is the paragraph format to make sure
: that
: > > they
: > > > : are
: > > > : > > not
: > > > : > > > outdented (i.e. negative indent applied). Is that the
problem?
: > > > : > > >
: > > > : > > > Terry
: > > > : > > >
: > > > : > > > : > > > : > > > : Terry, I noticed a smaill problem as I did this that I
would
: > > like
: > > > to
: > > > : > ask
: > > > : > > > : about. On my second page, which is now portrait, two of
my
: > > > : paragraphs
: > > > : > > > have
: > > > : > > > : first lines which go off the page. It seem as though they
: are
: > > > : > ignoring
: > > > : > > > the
: > > > : > > > : carriage returns and margins. Could you give insight and
: > > solution
: > > > : to
: > > > : > > this
: > > > : > > > : as well?
: > > > : > > > :
: > > > : > > > : Thanks again.
: > > > : > > > :
: > > > : > > > : "TF" <terryfarrell%40%6d%73%6e%2ecom> wrote in message
: > > > : > > > : : > > > : > > > : > Bob
: > > > : > > > : >
: > > > : > > > : > You cannot have different orientation in a section of a
: > > > document,
: > > > : so
: > > > : > > > what
: > > > : > > > : > you need to do is to start your document in Landscape
and
: > then
: > > > at
: > > > : > the
: > > > : > > > end
: > > > : > > > : of
: > > > : > > > : > the first page insert a Section Break, Next Page. Now
with
: > the
: > > > : > cursor
: > > > : > > in
: > > > : > > > : the
: > > > : > > > : > second section (page 2), if you go to File, Page Setup,
: you
: > > will
: > > > : see
: > > > : > > > that
: > > > : > > > : > you now have the option to choose 'From this Point
: Forward'
: > or
: > > > : 'This
: > > > : > > > : > Section'. Change the orientation now and only the second
: > > section
: > > > : > will
: > > > : > > > : > change.
: > > > : > > > : >
: > > > : > > > : > --
: > > > : > > > : > Terry Farrell - Word MVP
: > > > : > > > : > http://word.mvps.org/
: > > > : > > > : >
: > > > : > > > : > : > > > : > > > : > :I have a document in which I have a table on the first
: page
: > > > which
: > > > : I
: > > > : > > > want
: > > > : > > > : in
: > > > : > > > : > : Lanscape format. The other 2 pages of the document I
: want
: > > in
: > > > : > > portrait
: > > > : > > > : > : format. Whenever I set the first page to landscape,
the
: > > > second
: > > > : is
: > > > : > > set
: > > > : > > > : > that
: > > > : > > > : > : way as well. If I go to the second page to set it to
: > > > portrait,
: > > > : my
: > > > : > > > first
: > > > : > > > : > : page is set to portrait as well. How can I correct
this
: > > > : problem?
: > > > : > > > : > :
: > > > : > > > : > :
: > > > : > > > : >
: > > > : > > > : >
: > > > : > > > :
: > > > : > > > :
: > > > : > > >
: > > > : > > >
: > > > : > >
: > > > : > >
: > > > : >
: > > > :
: > > > :
: > > >
: > > >
: > >
: > >
: >
:
:
 
B

Bob S

Thanks. With the help feature being so useless, it is especially nice
having those like yourself to answer questions in a format like this. I
have now bookmarked the site for word.mvp as well. Thanks again.
 

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