Perhaps one of the best software ever made by M$ ... ?

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lisztfr

Hi,

For the (un)happy (?) remaining few user of "obsolete" windows ME,
there is a free solution to backup/retore the entire system, on several
supports (folder, disk, tape) ms-backup. It works, i tested it just
now.

(btw, it was signed by Seagate)

pros : easy to use, nice compression capacities. One can backup
several disk at once, i e the whole data of a PC

drawback : one must install a initial windows in order to restore
the "qic" archive upon it. Some errors (in PC health) occurs,
apparently without consequences.

what are your favorite *freeware* utilities to backing up (or make an
image of) a disk, preferably restoring it from a floppy ? dd has the
inconvenient of shipping false partition size information. xx copy ?
no compression

Also an other question, what are your favorite utilities for making
images of a floppy, from windows (rawrite is more for dos). mkisofs...?
imgtool can't imho.

many thanks,

laurent
 
C

casioculture

lisztfr said:
Hi,

For the (un)happy (?) remaining few user of "obsolete" windows ME,
there is a free solution to backup/retore the entire system, on several
supports (folder, disk, tape) ms-backup. It works, i tested it just
now.

(btw, it was signed by Seagate)

pros : easy to use, nice compression capacities. One can backup
several disk at once, i e the whole data of a PC

drawback : one must install a initial windows in order to restore
the "qic" archive upon it. Some errors (in PC health) occurs,
apparently without consequences.

what are your favorite *freeware* utilities to backing up (or make an
image of) a disk, preferably restoring it from a floppy ? dd has the
inconvenient of shipping false partition size information. xx copy ?
no compression

Also an other question, what are your favorite utilities for making
images of a floppy, from windows (rawrite is more for dos). mkisofs...?
imgtool can't imho.

many thanks,

laurent

Hi laurent,

Windows Me was a disaster, I had it on a laptop and it crashed all the
time. I hated it. I really, really suggest you get linux. If you're new
to it you can try ubuntu, opensuse or mandriva. It's a free download.
You'll have a fast and very stable system.
 
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old jon

casioculture said:
Windows Me was a disaster, I had it on a laptop and it crashed all the
time. I hated it. I really, really suggest you get linux. If you're new
to it you can try ubuntu, opensuse or mandriva. It's a free download.
You'll have a fast and very stable system.
Butting in. I`ve d\loaded ubuntu 5.04 and 5.10 as LiveCDs. Neither of them
run on my machine. You tell me how a newbie is supposed to learn linux, if
you can`t even install it.
It`s a `respawning` nightmare. And when you try for help on forums, you
get; `it`s your getty`. After 4 weeks I`m resting <g>.
bw..OJ
 
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lisztfr

Ok but i'm using linux too ... mandrake 9.1. Runs fine on my
old laptop. I had a long learning curve with linux since 2-3 years,
starting with mdk 8.1 :).
yet i cannot ditch win me away... despite the fact that retinal
burn did the best job ever for the Ati mobile card i have,
implementing lots of GL extensions Dell didn't bother to do,
-a shame, never buy dell also for the batteries issue-,
(see the dell batterie blues blog). Win Me is a disaster, but
i'm used to ! Even my old friend who is a hard linux user
has a windows (xp) box somewhere.

setting up a web cam for example is easy with biromsoft...

laurent
 
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lisztfr

"Respawning too fast" is because wrong setting in the

/etc/XF86Config-4 file. try safer video settings, -and so on
look at the alt.os.linux mandrake group, for getting a real
taste of linux, i mean healthier as slack ...;


lh
 
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casioculture

old said:
Butting in. I`ve d\loaded ubuntu 5.04 and 5.10 as LiveCDs. Neither of them
run on my machine. You tell me how a newbie is supposed to learn linux, if
you can`t even install it.
It`s a `respawning` nightmare. And when you try for help on forums, you
get; `it`s your getty`. After 4 weeks I`m resting <g>.
bw..OJ

I don't know what the purpose of your post is for sure, but I'll say
that I have personally experienced the frustration of installing linux
many times in the past, and it's a familiar frustration. It isn't,
however, universal, nor permanent. On this machine there are many linux
distributions that install *far* better than windows xp, and I mean it,
with flawless automatic hardware detection, and there are some that
don't. You can perhaps try mandriva or opensuse if ubuntu didn't work
for you. I still can't install slackware 10.2 on my machine, but, like
I said, ubuntu, opensuse, mandriva and many others install on it far
better when windows xp.

The other thing is that I have been using Microsoft software for 20
years, so a mistake that I have made in the past is to expect that I
would know how to use a unix system in an instant. This is not a
reasonable expectation. Instead, I have decided to learn unix/linux,
and there are many tutorials for unix/linux basics online. So much such
stuff online. If you want how to learn a unix/linux system, then think
of it as a long term proposition - I have spent 20 years using MS
software, do I want to spend the next 20 years using it or something
else? And if something else, how much time would be a reasonable
investment to learn it for such a long term usage.

For me, the rewards of using unix/linux are very, very worthwhile, and
I'm actually excited about them. I have started just a short while ago,
but so far I have made many leaps in terms of my computing tools and
skills. I now have LaTeX and ConTeXt to use instead of MSWord, and
they're far, far superior. I now have gnumeric and R project to use
instead of MSExcel, and they're far, far superior. I now have dcraw,
imagemagick, in some ways superior in their output and usage to even
Photoshop (no kidding, I'll show you online comparisons if you want). I
have learnt how to use bash, grep, sed and awk and I'm very excited
about them. I'm also currently learning other things, such as perl and
lisp.

All those superior technologies are available to me, for free, and for
ever, on almost any platform I want.

If you want to learn unix/linux, it's possible to use it just like you
use windows, with a simple install, and windows-like applications, but
if you really want to use its versatility and power, and why it's
superior to windows and how it could benefit you a lot, then a little
reading is a worthwhile investment if you'll spend a lot of time of
your future and life using it.

I suggest you start with cygwin, where you can learn how to use the
command prompt on linux while you're still on MSWindows, and then
google for "unix basics" or "unix tutorial" (unix or linux), spend a
few weeks or months playing with that, and when you get comfortable you
can then switch to linux.
 
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lisztfr

Thank you rem !

Casioculture : you are learning lisp, beware, then you are
coming in the aera of Xemacs :) is www3 still broken ? :)
while awk, perl python and so on are also supported on
windows platforms, there are not essentially linux tools.

There are also stories about guys who turned back to
windows after being tired of upgrading every year there
linux distro and struggeling for hardware support...

OTOH :

http://www.zeropaid.com/bbs/archive/index.php/t-18205.html

" The DOS utilities .... will slowly die out because almost no one is
writing DOS drivers for new hardware and new protocols - for instance
USB 2.0 or SATA cardbus ("pcmcia") expansion cards - while at the same
time Linux drivers for new hardware are soon written by many
independent programmers."


lh
 
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Bob Adkins

Windows Me was a disaster, I had it on a laptop and it crashed all the
time. I hated it. I really, really suggest you get linux. If you're new
to it you can try ubuntu, opensuse or mandriva. It's a free download.
You'll have a fast and very stable system.


Windows ME was a disaster if you had flaky hardware and software. It wasn't
as forgiving as XP. On some machines, it was a crash waiting to happen. On
other machines, it was like butter. I once went over 6 months without a
crash and without any real problems with ME. Some say XP is a disaster, but
it runs great on most systems and for most users. Some would hate any
Windows product even if it were perfect. That's their fault, not the fault
of Windows.

Right now, I wouldn't dare to steer anyone toward Linux. You risk getting
someone really mad at you. Just about everyone who is adventurous enough to
try it already have. Those who have lots of nice hardware and gadgets will
be very challenged to get everything to work right under the various Linux
and BSD flavors. Under XP, hardware "just works".
 

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