Pentium M 760 versus Turion 64 ML-44

[YKhan]

Again the test is showing that Pentium M's get better power consumption
under heavy load, but Turions get better power consumption under light
loads.

Intel's Pentium M 760 versus AMD's Turion 64 ML-44 - The Tech Report -
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http://techreport.com/reviews/2006q1/pentiumm-vs-turion64/index.x?pg=1

 

[Felger Carbon]

Again the test is showing that Pentium M's get better power consumption
under heavy load, but Turions get better power consumption under light
loads.

Intel's Pentium M 760 versus AMD's Turion 64 ML-44 - The Tech Report -
Page 1

http://techreport.com/reviews/2006q1/pentiumm-vs-turion64/index.x?pg=1

Yousuf, did you notice that the 35W Turions were tested when 25W
equivalents are available for $6 more? Or that the Pentium M's cost
about $200 more than the Turions?

Keith: Asleep indeed! I done been maligned by Big Blue. Have I
arrived? ;-)

 

[Eddie Grove]

http://techreport.com/reviews/2006q1/pentiumm-vs-turion64/index.x?pg=1

Yousuf, did you notice that the 35W Turions were tested when 25W
equivalents are available for $6 more? Or that the Pentium M's cost
about $200 more than the Turions?

Keith: Asleep indeed! I done been maligned by Big Blue. Have I
arrived? ;-)

What I would like is to see the various benchmarks recompiled to use
the extra registers available with 64bit. Then we could see a real
comparison.


Eddie

 

[tlai909]

Pentium M isn't 64 bit compatible.

If you want to see the P-M 760 get zero on all tests, that sounds like
fun.

I reckon the MT-44 would have bested the power tests if the cpu exists
at all. I thought MT-40 or 42 was the max.

 

[YKhan]

Yousuf, did you notice that the 35W Turions were tested when 25W
equivalents are available for $6 more? Or that the Pentium M's cost
about $200 more than the Turions?

Yeah but you still gotta find a laptop that uses these 25W chips. If
they're not selling laptops with the MT chips then you can't test it.

Yousuf Khan

 

[YKhan]

What I would like is to see the various benchmarks recompiled to use
the extra registers available with 64bit. Then we could see a real
comparison.

That would really please Intel, considering Core Duo isn't 64-bit yet.

Yousuf Khan

 

[Eddie Grove]

Pentium M isn't 64 bit compatible.

If you want to see the P-M 760 get zero on all tests, that sounds like
fun.

That's obviously not what I meant.

Run the Turion with binaries compiled to use all of its registers, and
run the P-M with 32-bit binaries.

Geez.


Eddie

 

[Felger Carbon]

Yeah but you still gotta find a laptop that uses these 25W chips. If
they're not selling laptops with the MT chips then you can't test

it.

The Turion works on most K8 desktop mobos, although a spacing adaptor
is needed for the HSF (some such adaptors are available for some HSFs
and because the power is so low, the selection of HSFs isn't
important. Whereas, a special and expensive mobo is required to use
the Pentium M on the desktop.

Summary: it's easy and cheap to use the Turion 25 or 35 on the
desktop, difficult and expensive to use the Pentium M on the desktop.

Say: is Keith asleep on me? ;-) ;-)

 

[tlai909]

I have user reports that the ATI RS480 type boards and laptops support
the MT line. I would like to call the particular manufacturer to be
sure but I don't think I can manage the above in Hindu.

 

[YKhan]

Run the Turion with binaries compiled to use all of its registers, and
run the P-M with 32-bit binaries.

That may or may not be a good thing. It's hard to say how good power
savings modes are implemented in the x64 version of Windows XP. They
have trouble enough getting x64 versions of printer drivers, let alone
power-management drivers.

Has anyone run WinXP x64 on a laptop yet?

Yousuf Khan

 

[Keith]

it.

The Turion works on most K8 desktop mobos, although a spacing adaptor
is needed for the HSF (some such adaptors are available for some HSFs
and because the power is so low, the selection of HSFs isn't
important. Whereas, a special and expensive mobo is required to use
the Pentium M on the desktop.

Summary: it's easy and cheap to use the Turion 25 or 35 on the
desktop, difficult and expensive to use the Pentium M on the desktop.

Big point that most miss!

Say: is Keith asleep on me? ;-) ;-)

ZZzzz, Say what?! Nah, been busy. Work (that big blue whale you refered
to back there somewhere) and that Valentines nonsense (at least this
reporter would like to wake up in the morning).

 

[Tony Hill]

http://techreport.com/reviews/2006q1/pentiumm-vs-turion64/index.x?pg=1

Yousuf, did you notice that the 35W Turions were tested when 25W
equivalents are available for $6 more? Or that the Pentium M's cost
about $200 more than the Turions?

Err, there's no such thing as an MT-44 (yet). The highest speed grade
of the MT line is the MT-40 (2.2GHz/1MB L2 cache as I recall).
Performance wouldn't be too far away from the ML-44 (2.4GHz/1MB L2),
but still a bit behind.

As for pricing, the ML-40 costs $220 and the MT-40 costs $268, a
difference of $48. The difference in price between the two lines is
only $5 up to the ML-34 vs. MT-34, but at higher speed grades it
grows.


That being said, the fact that the ML-44 is able to stay well within
the same power consumption range as the Pentium-M is still a pretty
impressive feat. The downside to this comparison is that they are
comparing two desktop systems with laptop chips in them, so it might
not fully reflect actual laptop power consumption. One of the
complaints I've heard about Turion laptops is that the chipsets used
with these processors consume a fair bit more power than Intel's
mobile chipsets that get paired with Pentium-M chips.