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Bob Vickers
What is the best freeware for pdf reading - Something that works well and
dosn't take forever to load like adobe.
TIA
dosn't take forever to load like adobe.
TIA
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Harvey Van Sickle
On 17 Jul 2005, Bob Vickers wrote
and does everything I need. (Some people have found various rendering
idiosyncracies with it, but nothing's ever not worked for me with it.)
http://www.bravaviewer.com/reader.htm
I use Brava reader, having dumped adobe a while back. Loads in a flash
and does everything I need. (Some people have found various rendering
idiosyncracies with it, but nothing's ever not worked for me with it.)
http://www.bravaviewer.com/reader.htm
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old jon
Hi Bob, the one your looking for is Foxit pdf reader, you should get itBob Vickers said:
here.
http://www.foxitsoftware.com/
best wishes..OJ
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Nunya Bizniss
On 17 Jul 2005, Bob Vickers wrote
I use Brava reader, having dumped adobe a while back. Loads in a flash
and does everything I need. (Some people have found various rendering
idiosyncracies with it, but nothing's ever not worked for me with it.)
That's a big download, 9.7 Meg.
I think Foxit is much smaller.
I use Brava reader, having dumped adobe a while back. Loads in a flash
and does everything I need. (Some people have found various rendering
idiosyncracies with it, but nothing's ever not worked for me with it.)
That's a big download, 9.7 Meg.
I think Foxit is much smaller.
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Harvey Van Sickle
On 17 Jul 2005, Nunya Bizniss wrote
Fair 'nuff; excellent point. (I've had broadband for so long that I
sometimes forget to check on download sizes. Sorry.)
What I tend to be interested in these days is the end-size of the
"Program Files" folder: what does Foxit result in after it's unzipped
and installed?
(I'm just curious: Brava's about 13 MB, but the last version of Adobe
I had was some humongous multiple of that.)
Fair 'nuff; excellent point. (I've had broadband for so long that I
sometimes forget to check on download sizes. Sorry.)
What I tend to be interested in these days is the end-size of the
"Program Files" folder: what does Foxit result in after it's unzipped
and installed?
(I'm just curious: Brava's about 13 MB, but the last version of Adobe
I had was some humongous multiple of that.)
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Jim
Harvey said:
On my machine Foxit Reader 1.3 beta. is less than 2.4 meg.
-Jim
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El Gee
One thing to keep in mind (and this will not apply to many of you) is
that Adobe has the only plug-in that Intuit (Turbotax) recognizes. I
had deinstalled Adobe right before tax season (US tax season) and
installed Brava (which was great!) but had to de-install Brava when I
could not print up my tax forms. Intuit required the Adobe plugin and
Brava did not cut it. That is too bad, because Adobe is like M$ in that
they write bloatware.
YMMV.
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Richard Steinfeld
El said:
That is too bad, because Adobe is like M$ in that
This brings up a whole 'nother issue that's close to my heart (which
gets cold when dealing with this issues). I have no love for either of
these companies.
I detest the way that Intuit regards their customers -- as so much
chattel to jerk around for additional coinage. They're as walled-off
from their customers as Symantec is (ever try to reach either of them on
the phone or even email?). And my Intuit is adware/nagware -- it
actually interrupts my work to sell me things.
Adobe sticks in my craw for a different reason. Their software is
brilliantly-crafted and thoroughly professional. And they've got the
market sewn up when it comes to integrated publishing tools, especially
when it comes to foundry-quality typesetting and professional fonts. My
problem is that for a private party, the products are wildly expensive
-- priced for corporate deep pockets. So, it's not easy to even play
with the software in order to learn it.
Therefore, I'm interested in reasonable alternatives. Regarding Quicken,
I want to use something that duplicates the handling and functionality
without having to fork over money to a publisher who treats me (the
customer) with contempt. Like with Internet providers, I want someone
smaller and more responsive. Free would be great, but I don't mind
paying something (that's the OT part of this post). Let me be clear
about this: when I fork over my money, I want to deal with a vendor who
appreciates my business and treats me as if he knows that. Lastly, for
this bookkeeping software, I want Quicken-compatible files so that I
can, if necessary, take my stuff to a Quicken-locked accountant or
bookkeeper for them to massage.
About the Adobe stuff, I'm stuck. I've always been frustrated at how
incredibly slowly Acrobat takes to load. My curiosity has been piqued,
by the two alternatives uncovered by participants on this board. The
first one's out because it won't run on my Windows 9x system. Haven't
checked the second one about that yet.
Well, if this wasn't a rant, what was it?
Richard
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El Gee
Understood on all accounts. I have been using Web Turbo Tax dot com for
years and it requires the Adobe plugin. If it did not, I would dump
Adobe in an skinny minute.
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Harvey Van Sickle
On my machine Foxit Reader 1.3 beta. is less than 2.4 meg.[/QUOTE]
That's very good; I might try it again.
I seem to recall trying Foxit when I was looking for an Acrobat
replacement, but can't remember why I didn't use it. (At the time,
Acrobat 5 (I think) couldn't open a new document that had been sent to
me, and Acrobat 6 was a *huge* increase in size. I suspect that Brava
was the first non-Acrobat-6 reader I found which could open the new
file.)
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Doc
That's very good; I might try it again.
I seem to recall trying Foxit when I was looking for an Acrobat
replacement, but can't remember why I didn't use it. (At the time,
Acrobat 5 (I think) couldn't open a new document that had been sent to
me, and Acrobat 6 was a *huge* increase in size. I suspect that Brava
was the first non-Acrobat-6 reader I found which could open the new
file.)
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Acrobat 6 runs to 44.06Mb here. Using Acrobat Reader Speed Up to disable
all the hardly used plug ins allows it to run within 10 seconds here on
an old P2 300MHz machine.
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David
The biggest problem with 6 is that it requires IE 6 to run. Won't even
install on my machine.
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Susan Bugher
Richard said:
Amen says I.
re quicken replacement - some apps (with links) are listed here:
http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/acf/P_BUSINESS-HOME.php#2.00Accounting;Personal
Perhaps JMoney:
"JMoney is a personal finance manager written in Java. It supports multiple accounts in different
currencies, double entry banking, income/expense categories, various reports and Quicken file (QIF)
exchange."
Program: JMoney
Author: Olivier Faucheux
Ware: (Donationware) (open source: GNU GPL)
http://sourceforge.net/projects/jmoney/
http://jmoney.sourceforge.net/
PDF apps are on the Text page starting here (there are several subcategories):
http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/acf/P_TEXT.php#2.02ConvertPDFToText
You might find something of interest.
Susan
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Franklin
On Mon 18 Jul 2005 07:39:35, Harvey Van Sickle wrote:
I have Foxit installed but I don't much use it because it was
rendering pages a bit strangely.
I went back to Acrobat Reader 6. Didn't install Acrobat Reader 7
because I figured it would be bloated but someone here was saying
7 is faster. Can anyone else confirm this?
I have Foxit installed but I don't much use it because it was
rendering pages a bit strangely.
I went back to Acrobat Reader 6. Didn't install Acrobat Reader 7
because I figured it would be bloated but someone here was saying
7 is faster. Can anyone else confirm this?
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Father Merrin
Acrobat 7 is quite a bit faster then the standard release of Acrobat 6
(minus the use of 3rd party speed-up utilities) . Is it bloated you ask...
Of course, what else would you expect from Adobe
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gswiebeREMOVE_THIS
I find it about as fast to load as Acrobat 3 was which is great. It
sure eats up drive space though, 62.8 mb, 280 files in 48 folders.
Glenn
sure eats up drive space though, 62.8 mb, 280 files in 48 folders.
Glenn
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hummingbird
I use Foxit but there's an oddity with it:
It doesn't actually save a file when you use the File\Save command
even though it appears to. I've had to delve into the TIF cache to
retrieve a copy several times. This is a PITA but what the hell -
it's free!
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Daniel Mandic
Hi!
Yes, I can confirm. 7 is faster than 6.
But it seems to me, that after installing the 7.01 Update the speed is
gone
It´s again slow. Also 7.02 did not help.
Are the Full Versions of Acrobat faster than the free Versions???
Best Regards,
Daniel Mandic
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Ian Jackson
hummingbird said:
It seems OK on my machine (although I don't use it in preference to
Adobe). But why would you want to 'Save'? Foxit is only a reader. You
are saving a file that already exists.
However, Foxit has the 'Typewriter' facility, but while you CAN print
the document with the text you add, the text doesn't show up on a
'saved' document. You can get round this by 'printing' to another PDF
file using Primo, Cute etc. The added text 'sticks' to the new document.
Ian.
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Aquila Deus
Bob said:
just removing all plugins that come with acrobat reader. It launchs
immediatedly on my linux.