PCI IRQ Routing Table Error on POST causes loads of video problems.

J

jonfaquit

Does anyone know what that means? I just bought a new motherboard &
amd64 athlon; The mobo does not have onboard video, but I have this PCI
ATI Rage Card. I have 5 PCI slots, & an AGP slot.

After POST, I get a 'PCI IRQ routing table error [0:05:00]". My mobo is
MSI K8T Neo-V (MS-7032) w/latest BIOS (which is AMI) off the MSI site
(version 5.0). My video card is the only device using an expansion
slots.

Problem 1: IRQ Routing table error [0:05:00]

Problem 2: Load defaults always gives the 8-beep error (from
http://www.ami.com/support/doc/AMIBIOS-codes.pdf: 8 beeps=display
memory error, also, "If the system video adapter is an add-in card,
replace or reseat the
video adapter. If the video adapter is an integrated part of the system
board, the board may be faulty.")

Problem 3a: On setup of Win2k, BSODs saying that the BIOS is not fully
ACPI compliant & tells me to install disabling HAL/ACPI (by pressing
F7)
Problem 3b: Disabling HAL/ACPI installs, but the end result is video @
640x480 x 16 colors, and unable to install drivers; Error in device
manager says the BIOS did not supply enough info to properly configure
the device

Problem 4: Windows XP installs perfectly, however, video is super
crappy. I'm not a gamer so take that into consideration cause "crappy"
to a gamer might be normal to me. So when I say something's crappy,
it's absolutely horrid. For example, scrolling a simple window like
notepad visually repaints the window like I was downloading a picture &
displaying as it comes using a dialup connection....this process also
runs the CPU up to 70-90% and takes about 2 seconds.

I've tried different memory, uninstalled all hardware except memory,
CPU, and video card & still have the same result.

ANY help or at least pointers?
 
N

-nos1eep

It is further alleged that on or about 27 Mar 2006 22:52:17 -0800, in
alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt, the queezy keyboard of "jonfaquit"
<[email protected]> spewed the following:

|Does anyone know what that means? I just bought a new motherboard &
|amd64 athlon; The mobo does not have onboard video, but I have this PCI
|ATI Rage Card. I have 5 PCI slots, & an AGP slot.
|
|After POST, I get a 'PCI IRQ routing table error [0:05:00]". My mobo is
|MSI K8T Neo-V (MS-7032) w/latest BIOS (which is AMI) off the MSI site
|(version 5.0). My video card is the only device using an expansion
|slots.
|
|Problem 1: IRQ Routing table error [0:05:00]
|
|Problem 2: Load defaults always gives the 8-beep error (from
|http://www.ami.com/support/doc/AMIBIOS-codes.pdf: 8 beeps=display
|memory error, also, "If the system video adapter is an add-in card,
|replace or reseat the
|video adapter. If the video adapter is an integrated part of the system
|board, the board may be faulty.")
|
|Problem 3a: On setup of Win2k, BSODs saying that the BIOS is not fully
|ACPI compliant & tells me to install disabling HAL/ACPI (by pressing
|F7)
|Problem 3b: Disabling HAL/ACPI installs, but the end result is video @
|640x480 x 16 colors, and unable to install drivers; Error in device
|manager says the BIOS did not supply enough info to properly configure
|the device
|
|Problem 4: Windows XP installs perfectly, however, video is super
|crappy. I'm not a gamer so take that into consideration cause "crappy"
|to a gamer might be normal to me. So when I say something's crappy,
|it's absolutely horrid. For example, scrolling a simple window like
|notepad visually repaints the window like I was downloading a picture &
|displaying as it comes using a dialup connection....this process also
|runs the CPU up to 70-90% and takes about 2 seconds.
|
|I've tried different memory, uninstalled all hardware except memory,
|CPU, and video card & still have the same result.
|
|ANY help or at least pointers?

Interesting, I believe all your problems would be solved by simply
installing an AGP card.
 
S

sbb78247

jonfaquit said:
Does anyone know what that means? I just bought a new motherboard &
amd64 athlon; The mobo does not have onboard video, but I have this
PCI ATI Rage Card. I have 5 PCI slots, & an AGP slot.

After POST, I get a 'PCI IRQ routing table error [0:05:00]". My mobo
is MSI K8T Neo-V (MS-7032) w/latest BIOS (which is AMI) off the MSI
site (version 5.0). My video card is the only device using an
expansion slots.

Problem 1: IRQ Routing table error [0:05:00]

Problem 2: Load defaults always gives the 8-beep error (from
http://www.ami.com/support/doc/AMIBIOS-codes.pdf: 8 beeps=display
memory error, also, "If the system video adapter is an add-in card,
replace or reseat the
video adapter. If the video adapter is an integrated part of the
system board, the board may be faulty.")

Problem 3a: On setup of Win2k, BSODs saying that the BIOS is not fully
ACPI compliant & tells me to install disabling HAL/ACPI (by pressing
F7)
Problem 3b: Disabling HAL/ACPI installs, but the end result is video @
640x480 x 16 colors, and unable to install drivers; Error in device
manager says the BIOS did not supply enough info to properly configure
the device

Problem 4: Windows XP installs perfectly, however, video is super
crappy. I'm not a gamer so take that into consideration cause "crappy"
to a gamer might be normal to me. So when I say something's crappy,
it's absolutely horrid. For example, scrolling a simple window like
notepad visually repaints the window like I was downloading a picture
& displaying as it comes using a dialup connection....this process
also runs the CPU up to 70-90% and takes about 2 seconds.

I've tried different memory, uninstalled all hardware except memory,
CPU, and video card & still have the same result.

ANY help or at least pointers?

have you tried a different graphics card?
did you bother to install the chipset drivers before trying to install the
graphics?
 
J

jonfaquit

-nos1eep said:
Interesting, I believe all your problems would be solved by simply
installing an AGP card.

Haha...I just ordered an AGP card (geforce 420...for about $15). Gonna
see if I get the same result(s).

------------------------
-sbb78247 said:
have you tried a different graphics card?
did you bother to install the chipset drivers before trying to install the
graphics?

Haven't tried any other graphics cards cause this is the only one I
have...I've always stuck with onboard video whenever purchasing a
motherboard cause onboard suits my needs perfectly. I only had this
card because it has an RCA connection so that I can connect my TV to it
& use it as another monitor.

I can't install anything without the graphics though...cause I can't
see anything (and I think BIOS gives the beeping errors too if it
doesn't find a suitable PCI/AGP card).
 
J

jonfaquit

Oh yeah, you know what else is funny? MSI, the brand of motherboard
that I have, technical support said the same thing...use an AGP card
and retest...
 
J

jonfaquit

Some lspci -vvv linux info if it helps: Question, why does it say AGP
when this is a PCI card?

0000:00:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage
Mobility P/M AGP 2x (rev 64) (prog-if 00 [VGA])
Subsystem: ATI Technologies Inc Rage Mobility P/M AGP 2x
Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop-
ParErr- Stepping+ SERR- FastB2B-
Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium
TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR-
Latency: 64 (2000ns min), Cache Line Size: 0x10 (64 bytes)
Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 0
Region 0: Memory at fd000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable)
[size=16M]
Region 1: I/O ports at e800
Region 2: Memory at febff000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable)
[size=4K]
Expansion ROM at febc0000 [disabled] [size=128K]
Capabilities: [50] AGP version 1.0
Status: RQ=256 Iso- ArqSz=0 Cal=0 SBA+ ITACoh- GART64-
HTrans- 64bit- FW- AGP3- Rate=x1,x2
Command: RQ=1 ArqSz=0 Cal=0 SBA- AGP- GART64- 64bit-
FW- Rate=<none>
Capabilities: [5c] Power Management version 1
Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1+ D2+ AuxCurrent=0mA
PME(D0-,D1-,D2-,D3hot-,D3cold-)
 
J

JAD

in the bios..change the switch
PnP OS installed? - NO/YES whichever is the opposite of the current setting.
reset configuration data -YES
If you have
'USE MS routing table' or
'enable ms ROUTING TABLE'? - ENABLED
 
J

jonfaquit

I've had to have cleared the CMOS about 30 times so far :)

'Load defaults' even gives me the 8 error beeps...

I just tried throwing this video card in my old 32bit system and as I
thought, no problem whatsoever, so it can't be the card.
 
S

SP Goodman

jonfaquit said:
Does anyone know what that means? I just bought a new motherboard &
amd64 athlon; The mobo does not have onboard video, but I have this PCI
ATI Rage Card. I have 5 PCI slots, & an AGP slot.

After POST, I get a 'PCI IRQ routing table error [0:05:00]". My mobo is
MSI K8T Neo-V (MS-7032) w/latest BIOS (which is AMI) off the MSI site
(version 5.0). My video card is the only device using an expansion
slots.

Problem 1: IRQ Routing table error [0:05:00]

Problem 2: Load defaults always gives the 8-beep error (from
http://www.ami.com/support/doc/AMIBIOS-codes.pdf: 8 beeps=display
memory error, also, "If the system video adapter is an add-in card,
replace or reseat the
video adapter. If the video adapter is an integrated part of the system
board, the board may be faulty.")

Problem 3a: On setup of Win2k, BSODs saying that the BIOS is not fully
ACPI compliant & tells me to install disabling HAL/ACPI (by pressing
F7)
Problem 3b: Disabling HAL/ACPI installs, but the end result is video @
640x480 x 16 colors, and unable to install drivers; Error in device
manager says the BIOS did not supply enough info to properly configure
the device

Problem 4: Windows XP installs perfectly, however, video is super
crappy. I'm not a gamer so take that into consideration cause "crappy"
to a gamer might be normal to me. So when I say something's crappy,
it's absolutely horrid. For example, scrolling a simple window like
notepad visually repaints the window like I was downloading a picture &
displaying as it comes using a dialup connection....this process also
runs the CPU up to 70-90% and takes about 2 seconds.

I've tried different memory, uninstalled all hardware except memory,
CPU, and video card & still have the same result.

ANY help or at least pointers?

Try flashing your BIOS, which should reset things all the way down,
requiring you to go into BIOS settings at next boot to re-setup some things;
but what this will also correct is a possible SMBIOS error. Have you run a
diagnostic on hardware at all?

HTH.

--
Stephen Goodman

* Cartoons about DVDs and Stuff
* http://www.earthlight.net/HiddenTrack
* The Loop Of The Week since 1996!
* http://www.earthlight.net/Studios
 
J

jonfaquit

JAD said:
8 beep error in what order just a steady beep or short long

It's really 1 long, 8 short:

http://www.pchell.com/hardware/beepcodes.shtml says it's:

1 long, 8short: Display / retrace test failed. Reseat the video card.
8short: Your video card isn't working. Make sure it is seated well in
the bus. If it still beeps, either the whole card is bad or the memory
on it is. Best bet is to install another video card.

....and there's nothing wrong with the video card cause I've tested it
in my old system today and didn't get any bios or OS errors.
 
J

JAD

jonfaquit said:
It's really 1 long, 8 short:

http://www.pchell.com/hardware/beepcodes.shtml says it's:

1 long, 8short: Display / retrace test failed. Reseat the video card.
8short: Your video card isn't working. Make sure it is seated well in
the bus. If it still beeps, either the whole card is bad or the memory
on it is. Best bet is to install another video card.

...and there's nothing wrong with the video card cause I've tested it
in my old system today and didn't get any bios or OS errors.

interesting.

does the board have OB video? Integrated
and if your using a add on card the OB is disabled?
MSI is always a nightmare along with ECS and FIC boards.
I would return the board (if its new can't remember the details)
 
J

jonfaquit

JAD, this board does not have onboard video...if it did I wouldn't even
be messing with this video card. I used to just stick to onboard video
when buy a motherboard cause onboard suits me fine. But when I was
buying, I had limited my choices to two boards; this one (with no
onboard video), and another one that had onboard video. I chose this
one for the simple fact that it had 5 pci slots compared to 3 for the
other one.

SP Goodman, I've tried just about everything to try to make this
mobo/bios seem as if it was powered for the first time many times. For
example, I've had to clear CMOS about 30 times or so (forced to
whenever I get the 8-beep error), I've removed the battery, removed the
power cord, disconnected the power supply's connectors, removed the
CPU, have flashed the BIOS about 3 times, removed all hardware,
peripherals & mobo connections (except the case's power switch & reset
button connectors), tried using 3 types of memory but to no avail. The
thing is I can't remember if I was getting the routing table error when
I _first_ connected everything as the damn MSI logo was displayed on
bootup. So I'm not sure if I was always getting the error & not seeing
it til I disabled the logo display or if it was something that happened
as a result of something afterwards.

As far as a diagnostic, I have not run any. Are there any out there in
particular I should take a look at? At the moment I've just resorted to
linux (debian) as it handles video somewhat better (still crappy
nonetheless); I still have my 'Ultimate Boot CD 4 Windows', however &
I've been able to run AID32/Everest.
 
N

-nos1eep

It is further alleged that on or about 28 Mar 2006 10:42:00 -0800, in
alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt, the queezy keyboard of "jonfaquit"
<[email protected]> spewed the following:

|
|-nos1eep wrote:
|
|> Interesting, I believe all your problems would be solved by simply
|> installing an AGP card.
|> --
|> -nos1eep
|
|Haha...I just ordered an AGP card (geforce 420...for about $15). Gonna
|see if I get the same result(s).
|
|------------------------
|-sbb78247 wrote:
|
|> have you tried a different graphics card?
|> did you bother to install the chipset drivers before trying to install the
|> graphics?
|
|Haven't tried any other graphics cards cause this is the only one I
|have...I've always stuck with onboard video whenever purchasing a
|motherboard cause onboard suits my needs perfectly. I only had this
|card because it has an RCA connection so that I can connect my TV to it
|& use it as another monitor.
|
|I can't install anything without the graphics though...cause I can't
|see anything (and I think BIOS gives the beeping errors too if it
|doesn't find a suitable PCI/AGP card).

After you get your machine up and running with the AGP card, you can
install the other card and use it as well.
 
J

jonfaquit

Thing is once I install the AGP card, I won't need this
card...connecting it to my TV was just one of those 'look what I can
do' things, which lasted about a week. So I could care less about TV
connectivity.
 
S

sbb78247

jonfaquit said:
Haha...I just ordered an AGP card (geforce 420...for about $15). Gonna
see if I get the same result(s).

------------------------


Haven't tried any other graphics cards cause this is the only one I
have...I've always stuck with onboard video whenever purchasing a
motherboard cause onboard suits my needs perfectly. I only had this
card because it has an RCA connection so that I can connect my TV to
it & use it as another monitor.

I can't install anything without the graphics though...cause I can't
see anything (and I think BIOS gives the beeping errors too if it
doesn't find a suitable PCI/AGP card).


look ****wit - install a card that has the same voltage specs as your slot -
3.3 1.5 .8 get it? then check your ram like you have been told to be sure
it matches your board. THEN install windows, chipset drivers, video drivers
and what ever is needed from there.
 
J

jonfaquit

sbb78247 said:
look ****wit - install a card that has the same voltage specs as your slot -
3.3 1.5 .8 get it? then check your ram like you have been told to be sure
it matches your board. THEN install windows, chipset drivers, video drivers
and what ever is needed from there.

Hey, are you making fun of my name??? lol

My mobo can support 3.3 & 5V PCI, and AGP up to 3.0 (3.3/1.5/0.8). This
particular card is a 5V PCI. Even though I have a card on the way, I'd
still like to troubleshoot this card. Buying something else as a
replacement isn't always a solution to a problem that has yet to be
deciphered.
 

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