PC2700 DRAM on AMD Athlon 64 3400+ Processor with Asus A8V Deluxe Via Socket 939 MB

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John Smith

I have 1 512mg PC2700 DRAM and 1 256 PC2700 DRAM - I have no idea about the
CAS, but I assume it is standard. Will my PC 2700 DRAMs work w/the
combination below and if so, how much real world peformance hit will I take
over PC3200. Is there an issue /w having DIMMs of different sizes? Do you
need at least two identical pieces to have a functioning system?

Asus A8V Deluxe Via Socket 939 ATX Motherboard and AMD Athlon 64 3400+
Processor
 
D

Dee

John said:
I have 1 512mg PC2700 DRAM and 1 256 PC2700 DRAM - I have no idea about the
CAS, but I assume it is standard. Will my PC 2700 DRAMs work w/the
combination below and if so, how much real world peformance hit will I take
over PC3200. Is there an issue /w having DIMMs of different sizes? Do you
need at least two identical pieces to have a functioning system?

Asus A8V Deluxe Via Socket 939 ATX Motherboard and AMD Athlon 64 3400+
Processor
They should work, especially if they are the same manufacturer and the
same CAS & other appropriate specs.
 
S

Stings

Check voltage if they are the same they should be fine and run at the slower
2700 speed I would place the 2700 chip in dimm 0
I have that board and am using pc2700 from my old system just fine one is
Kingston one is Micron.
I have had trouble with voltage differences on mixed speeds PC333 and PC400
 
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A Guy Called Tyketto

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Stings said:
Check voltage if they are the same they should be fine and run at the slower
2700 speed I would place the 2700 chip in dimm 0
I have that board and am using pc2700 from my old system just fine one is
Kingston one is Micron.
I have had trouble with voltage differences on mixed speeds PC333 and PC400

Interesting.

I have 2 256MB PC2700 chips running at 2.6v from Kingston, as
well as 1 512MB chip (possibly PC3200) also from Kingston, at 2.5v. If
they were at the same voltage, could they be used on this board?

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Bob Knowlden

The A8V supports dual-channel operation, which means that the RAM must be
installed in same-sized pairs. (That is, the DDR DIMMs in each pair must be
the same size as each other, but if you install two pairs for a total of 4
DIMMs, I believe that the pairs can be of different size. The manual
suggests that all 4 should be the same size, but I think it's an error.)

The board also supports single channel operation, but it only lists support
for a single DIMM, in slot B1.

The manual is available for download:

http://www.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socket939/a8v-deluxe/e1642_a8v_deluxe.pdf

See pages 2-11 and 2-12.

I'm not sure about the specs of a 3400+, but I guess that it uses an 800 MHz
FSB. That wants PC3200 memory. It may be possible to run PC2700 RAM at
PC3200 (use manual settings in the BIOS, rather than SPD). The A8V might be
smart enough to automatically configure for PC2700. If not, you can set a
memory ratio in the BIOS setup. There would be a small performance loss, but
I doubt that it would be bad.

My recommendation: if you're going with a Socket 939 system, spend the money
on a pair for dual-channel operation. www.newegg.com sells 512 MB (2 X 256)
PC3200 starting at about $85 (US), and 1 GB (2 X 512) for less than $160.

If you can get a 3500+ for the about the same price as the 3400+, you might
better go with that. I'm unclear exactly what makes a 3400+ slightly slower
than a 3500+. If Newegg is to be believed, they run at the same true
frequency (2.2 GHz), and have the same cache sizes. (One posting I read
suggests that the 3400+ uses 800 MHz Hypertransport settings rather than the
1 GHz for the 3500+, but that's beyond my understanding.)

You may also want to make sure that your A8V is a Rev. 2 board. There are
supposedly some fixes over the older versions, although they may be of
interest mainly to overclockers.

If you're really pinched for cash, you might consider a Socket 754 board.
That'd be single-channel memory only, but supposedly the memory controller
on the Athlon 64 has such good performance that the gap between single and
dual channel is slight. I have no personal experience with that, though, as
the A8V is my first Athlon mainboard. Socket 754 probably has less of a
future than Socket 939, but they may not matter if you wish to keep the
system a long time (say, six months or so). (I'd be pleasantly surprised if
the A8V had a meaningful CPU upgrade path in 18 months.)

HTH.

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Stings

Like everything in the PC world some things work great at different voltages
some do not but its better to go with the lower voltage for stability.
In the BIOS set voltages to Auto put the lower voltage chip in dimm0 it
should set them both to 2.5 I had a Kingston 2.8 and a Infineon at 2.4 cause
trouble both DS PC333 & PC400 reverse them and it would not post. Most board
makers list their tested chips on their web page now its that important to
stability.
Example: http://usa.asus.com/products/mb/socket754/k8v/overview.htm
See the list at the bottom.
 

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