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Heath

I have used the upgrade kit for vista home premium. I am wondering if I
should do a clean install of vista (wipe drive clean) cause i did not know it
would leave the old OS on the drive. And will the performance increase
because of more available space? I do know that i will have to install the
old OS b4 i can upgrade again to Vista!
 
A

alexB

You probably are seeing the old OS packed into folder WIndows.old. You can
easily delete this folder but you will need to elevate yourself to adm
privilege.

You are not the administrator and will never be. Administrator is an object.

You can temporarily give yourselves rights to perform some operations as if
you were Administrator, yes. Your power still will be limited. Actually you
do not need more than that.

In order to do what you want you will have to open "Local Users And Groups"
GUI (either typing lusrmgr.msc in Windows\system32\ -- do not forget to open
Command Prompt as "run as Administrator" - take a notice!!!) or if you have
Home or Home Premium you should go thru Control panel> System and
Maintenance>Administrative Tools>Computer Management>Local Users and Groups.

Open up thumbnail Groups, open up Group "Administrators" (nb: it is plural)
and you will see the object "administrator" in there. Add yourselves to this
group. Close the GUI.

You may have a somewhat easier life from now on but it may not be enough.
You may also need to establish yourselves as a person who has the right to
write into certain folders if you want. Go to that folder, left
click>>Properties>>Security tab>>Edit>>Add>>type in your name>>Close that
window, Check checkbox "Full Control">>Apply>>OK.

You may also need to delete Inheritance. Click Advanced. That will give you
an option to uncheck a checkbox and the onwership rights of other objects
will be terminated.

Now you will have the right to do what you want in this folder and ALL its
subfolders. You will never be denied any access. You should exercise this
power judiciously and on a limited basis.
 
J

Jan

Your kidding, right?

alexB said:
You probably are seeing the old OS packed into folder WIndows.old. You
can easily delete this folder but you will need to elevate yourself to adm
privilege.

You are not the administrator and will never be. Administrator is an
object.

You can temporarily give yourselves rights to perform some operations as
if you were Administrator, yes. Your power still will be limited. Actually
you do not need more than that.

In order to do what you want you will have to open "Local Users And
Groups" GUI (either typing lusrmgr.msc in Windows\system32\ -- do not
forget to open Command Prompt as "run as Administrator" - take a
notice!!!) or if you have Home or Home Premium you should go thru Control
panel> System and Maintenance>Administrative Tools>Computer
Management>Local Users and Groups.

Open up thumbnail Groups, open up Group "Administrators" (nb: it is
plural) and you will see the object "administrator" in there. Add
yourselves to this group. Close the GUI.

You may have a somewhat easier life from now on but it may not be enough.
You may also need to establish yourselves as a person who has the right to
write into certain folders if you want. Go to that folder, left
click>>Properties>>Security tab>>Edit>>Add>>type in your name>>Close that
window, Check checkbox "Full Control">>Apply>>OK.

You may also need to delete Inheritance. Click Advanced. That will give
you an option to uncheck a checkbox and the onwership rights of other
objects will be terminated.

Now you will have the right to do what you want in this folder and ALL its
subfolders. You will never be denied any access. You should exercise this
power judiciously and on a limited basis.
 
R

ray

I have used the upgrade kit for vista home premium. I am wondering if I
should do a clean install of vista (wipe drive clean) cause i did not
know it would leave the old OS on the drive. And will the performance
increase because of more available space? I do know that i will have to
install the old OS b4 i can upgrade again to Vista!

Why? As I understand, it has been reported in this NG several times, the
upgrade kit is capable of doing a clean install.
 
A

AlexB

As YOU understand!!!!! But have you EVER done a clean install???

Have you EVER done a clean Vista install over a previous XP ????

Have you ever install Vista over a previous Vista install????


I HAVE DONE ALL THOSE THINGS. I HAVE DONE THEM!!!!!!!!!

I personally and manually had to delete Windows.old file folder myself, do
not remember quite many times, perhaps 4 or more.
 
A

AlexB

I want to add. As a matter of fact I just recalled that I had a situation,
quite ridiculous, when I had a third Vista installed over two previous
Vistas when Vista #2 packed Vista # 1 into Windows.old, and in the end I had
my small 120Gb disk filled to almost capacity. Then I woke up to the fact as
to what was going on.
 
N

NoStop

AlexB said:
I want to add. As a matter of fact I just recalled that I had a situation,
quite ridiculous, when I had a third Vista installed over two previous
Vistas when Vista #2 packed Vista # 1 into Windows.old, and in the end I
had my small 120Gb disk filled to almost capacity. Then I woke up to the
fact as to what was going on.
Another one to save for posterity. You're just too funny! What a tech!

Cheers.

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A: Which one requires running lusermgr.msc to create them?

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J

jxzk

You are not the administrator and will never be. Administrator is an
FCK you you MORON@ Your brain is NOT an object.. its something imaginary!

you are the most computer illiterate IDIOT I have ever seen!

Read here you DOPE!
Unlock the supersecret Administrator account

Deep inside the bowels of Windows Vista, there's a secret Administrator
account, and it's different from the normal administrator account you most
likely have set up on your PC. This Administrator account is not part of the
Administrator group. (Confused yet? You should be.) It's a kind of
superadministrator, akin to the root account in Unix, and by default it's
turned off and hidden. (In describing this hack, we'll always use the
capital "A" for the secret Administrator account, and a lowercase "a" for a
normal administrator account.)

In versions of Windows before Windows Vista, the Administrator account
wasn't hidden, and many people used it as their main or only account. This
Administrator account had full rights over the computer.

In Windows Vista, Microsoft changed that. In Vista, the Administrator
account is not subject to UAC, but normal administrator accounts are. So the
Administrator can make any changes to the system and will see no UAC
prompts.

Turning on the Administrator account is straightforward. First, open an
elevated command prompt by typing cmd into the Search box on the Start menu,
right-clicking the command prompt icon that appears at the top of the Start
menu, then selecting Run as administrator -- or just use the shortcut you
created in the previous hack.

Then enter this command and press Enter:

Net user administrator /active:yes

From now on, the Administrator account will appear as an option on the
Welcome screen, along with any user accounts you may have set up. Use it
like any other account. Be aware that it won't have a password yet, so it's
a good idea to set a password for it.

If you want to disable the account and hide it, enter this command at an
elevated command prompt and press Enter:

Net user administrator /active:no
 
B

bp

AlexB said:
As YOU understand!!!!! But have you EVER done a clean install???

Have you EVER done a clean Vista install over a previous XP ????

Have you ever install Vista over a previous Vista install????


I HAVE DONE ALL THOSE THINGS. I HAVE DONE THEM!!!!!!!!!

I personally and manually had to delete Windows.old file folder myself, do
not remember quite many times, perhaps 4 or more.


WOW !!! That makes you a Super Hero!!!

Get over yourself. Your instruction were over kill. Just delete the
windows.old and if you have any permission problem take ownership for the
folder and try again.
 
H

Heath

Thanks, simplicity is a gift!!


Brink said:
Hi Heath,

Doing a clean install instead may not help performance with the extra
hard drive space, but it will reduce the possibility of a compatiblity
issue with any remnants of the old OS left over in the Vista
installation. This will show you how to do a clean install with a
upgrade version of Vista.

http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/68767-clean-install-upgrade-vista.html

This will show you how to help improve the performance of Vista.

http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/81176-speed-up-performance-vista.html

Shawn


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