paging file???

G

Guest

hi all
can anyone say if this statement is true, i have 1 gig of ram and was
curious??

If you’re blessed with a large amount of RAM (at least 512Mb), this tweak
should make Windows XP run faster than ever - it stops the core Windows
system being paged to disk, and instead stores it in your system’s RAM,
making for blistering Windows access.


pete
 
C

Carey Frisch [MVP]

RAM, Virtual Memory, Pagefile and all that stuff
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555223/en-us


--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows - Shell/User
Microsoft Community Newsgroups
news://msnews.microsoft.com/

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| hi all
| can anyone say if this statement is true, i have 1 gig of ram and was
| curious??
|
| If you’re blessed with a large amount of RAM (at least 512Mb), this tweak
| should make Windows XP run faster than ever - it stops the core Windows
| system being paged to disk, and instead stores it in your system’s RAM,
| making for blistering Windows access.
|
|
| pete
|
| --
| if at first you dont succeed try try LINUX!!!
|
| Please take my answers anyway you like, i am no expert but i do like to try
| and help anyone i can ;-)
 
G

Guest

thanks, i looked at the link but it doesnt say anything about deleting the
page file completeley as in the statement i pasted, and that came from
microsoft?? should i just delete it and see what happens???

pete
 
C

Carey Frisch [MVP]

No. Windows XP requires a paging file.
For best performance, allow Windows XP to
manage the Virtual Memory.

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows - Shell/User
Microsoft Community Newsgroups
news://msnews.microsoft.com/

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:

| thanks, i looked at the link but it doesnt say anything about deleting the
| page file completeley as in the statement i pasted, and that came from
| microsoft?? should i just delete it and see what happens???
|
| pete
| --
| if at first you dont succeed try try LINUX!!!
|
| Please take my answers anyway you like, i am no expert but i do like to try
| and help anyone i can ;-)
|
|
| "Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote:
|
| > RAM, Virtual Memory, Pagefile and all that stuff
| > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555223/en-us
| >
| >
| > --
| > Carey Frisch
| > Microsoft MVP
| > Windows - Shell/User
| > Microsoft Community Newsgroups
| > news://msnews.microsoft.com/
| >
| > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------­----------------
| >
| > | > | hi all
| > | can anyone say if this statement is true, i have 1 gig of ram and was
| > | curious??
| > |
| > | If you’re blessed with a large amount of RAM (at least 512Mb), this tweak
| > | should make Windows XP run faster than ever - it stops the core Windows
| > | system being paged to disk, and instead stores it in your system’s RAM,
| > | making for blistering Windows access.
| > |
| > |
| > | pete
| > |
| > | --
| > | if at first you dont succeed try try LINUX!!!
| > |
| > | Please take my answers anyway you like, i am no expert but i do like to try
| > | and help anyone i can ;-)
| >
| >
 
C

Carey Frisch [MVP]

I have found that Windows XP runs best when using the
default virtual memory settings. Windows XP always will
use virtual memory, regardless of how much RAM is installed.

Please review the following:

Virtual Memory in Windows XP
http://aumha.org/win5/a/xpvm.php

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows - Shell/User
Microsoft Community Newsgroups
news://msnews.microsoft.com/

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:

| OK, but can you explain why this was written......
|
| http://support.microsoft.com/defaul...de/en-gb/registry.asp#XSLTSection124121121120
 
U

Uncle John

Hey Pete

1 512 MB is not a huge amount of memory for Windows XP.

2 Your reference is to stopping certain files being page out not to
disabling Virtual Memory. Carey is right, Windows XP + SP2 will always use a
page file if necessary and if you have not enabled one you may well get a
message warning you that the system needs to increase VM.

3 If your system has so much spare capacity that there is very little
paging, then why bother. Otherwise if possible set the paging file on a disk
other than the system disk and let Windows manage. Check what is actually
happening in your system by opening the performance monitor [Ctrl+Shift+Esc]
select the performance tab. Minimize and check from time to time.
 
A

Admiral Q

The tweak you have provided a link to only stops key compononents of Windows
Executive from being sent out to the pagefile. I don't see anything about
it stating to "delete" the pagefile????

--

Star Fleet Admiral Q @ your service!
Google is your friend!
http://www.google.com
 
R

Ron Martell

Telesales Pete "No Expert!!!" said:
hi all
can anyone say if this statement is true, i have 1 gig of ram and was
curious??

If you’re blessed with a large amount of RAM (at least 512Mb), this tweak
should make Windows XP run faster than ever - it stops the core Windows
system being paged to disk, and instead stores it in your system’s RAM,
making for blistering Windows access.

Shutting off the Windows XP virtual memory paging file will hurt
rather than help the overall performance of the computer.

The main reason for this has to do with the unused portions of memory
allocation requests. All items - Windows components, device drivers,
and application programs - ask for memory allocations that are large
than what they actually need under normal circumstances. And by
design Windows must identify memory address space to satisfy all of
the memory allocation requests that are issued.

What Windows does is to allocate RAM only to those portions of the
requests that are actually used and to map the unused portions to
locations in the paging file. Note that this mapping of unused memory
requests to the paging file does not require any actual disk activity.
All that is required is to make entries in the memory mapping tables
maintained by the CPU.

In the absence of the paging file then Windows has no choice but use
RAM for all of the requested memory, including the unused portions. On
a system that is heavily used this could amount to several hundred
megabytes. For example, on my own system at this moment Task Manager
is reporting 410 mb of PF Usage. However another utility that I have
says that there is only 154 mb of active memory content currently in
the page file. So there is 410 - 154 = 256 mb of "phantom" page file
usage, which is the unused portions of memory allocation requests.

Hope this explains the situation.

Good luck

Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP (1997 - 2006)
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca

"Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference
has never been in bed with a mosquito."
 

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