Pagefile graph

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PaulFXH

Hi
I try to keep a close eye on my pagefile usage and for this I use Bill
James' utility (download from here:
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_pagefilemon.htm).
However this just gives what the pagefile usage is NOW and I would like
to see a graph of how it has been over, say, the last hour.
Anybody know how I can do this?
I know I can get a pagefile usage graph, of sorts, from Task Manager
and from System Monitor but Bill James' number just seems a lot more
believeable and realistic to me.

TIA
Paul

Dell 4550 Desktop
WinXP Home SP2
CPU P4, 2.53 GHz
1.0 GB RAM
Int HD 80 GB ntfs, non-partitioned
Ext HD 160 GB ntfs, non-partitioned
Ext HD 250 GB ntfs, 4 partitions

..
 
H

hummingbird

Hi
I try to keep a close eye on my pagefile usage and for this I use Bill
James' utility (download from here:
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_pagefilemon.htm).
However this just gives what the pagefile usage is NOW and I would like
to see a graph of how it has been over, say, the last hour.
Anybody know how I can do this?
I know I can get a pagefile usage graph, of sorts, from Task Manager
and from System Monitor but Bill James' number just seems a lot more
believeable and realistic to me.

The tool has a log facility which presumably records historical usage.
 
P

PaulFXH

hummingbird said:
The tool has a log facility which presumably records historical usage.

AFAIK, the log ONLY records the PF usage for those instances when you
actually checked. So, while it's not without its uses it is a long way
from the continuous graph/chart I had been seeking.
Indeed, this continuous chart is available, AIAM, for PF recording on
Task Manager and System Monitor.
However, I'm looking for a chart that is based on Bill James'
interpretation of PF usage (or something akin to it).

Paul
 
J

John Jay Smith

With www.samurize.com you can make a meter showing anything you can
imagine....

even the "color of her panties"

PS. life is too short to watch a pagefile grow...reminds me
of grass grow watching... :)
 
J

John Jay Smith

Paul.. if you want me to make you a meter for the pagefile...
(using samurize)
tell me. I can do it in a few mins and post it somewhere...
 
P

PaulFXH

John said:
Paul.. if you want me to make you a meter for the pagefile...
(using samurize)
tell me. I can do it in a few mins and post it somewhere...

Hi John
Thanks for your kind offer.
Yes, I would like to take you up on this. However, it is not exactly
clear to me from where Bill James gets the PF information. A cursory
glance at his vbs did little to enlighten me but perhaps you are more
adeppt at these things.
You can email the program to my gmail address in my profile. If this
doesn't work for you I'll post a suitably munged version.
Thanks
Paul
 
P

PaulFXH

nospam said:

If you prefaced your one-word question with at least some indication
why you (apparently) believe this to be a futile or worthless pursuit,
I could have some idea where to begin answering.
But as things stand.....................
 
H

hummingbird

AFAIK, the log ONLY records the PF usage for those instances when you
actually checked. So, while it's not without its uses it is a long way
from the continuous graph/chart I had been seeking.

Yes that appears to be right but it does also record max PF usage for
the session so you can see how high it went if you want to use it to
tune your PF size.
Indeed, this continuous chart is available, AIAM, for PF recording on
Task Manager and System Monitor.
However, I'm looking for a chart that is based on Bill James'
interpretation of PF usage (or something akin to it).

CacheMan monitors PF usage continuously but only has a system tray
icon which you mouse roll over to read (no graph output) but I've
noticed its figures are the same as this utility. Re-assuring.
 
P

PaulFXH

hummingbird said:
Yes that appears to be right but it does also record max PF usage for
the session so you can see how high it went if you want to use it to
tune your PF size.

Actually, this is very reasonable. The max PF usage for the session
will give me 90% of the information I need.
Nevertheless, a graphical representation will enable me to understand a
little (or even a lot) more of what influences PF usage.
CacheMan monitors PF usage continuously but only has a system tray
icon which you mouse roll over to read (no graph output) but I've
noticed its figures are the same as this utility. Re-assuring.

In essence then it doesn't actually do anything more than Bill James'
original utility (I've hotkeyed this latter so I can see it as readily
as I could mouse-over the cacheman icon).
I'll wait to see if John Jay is able to put the promised chart
together.
Paul
 
J

John Jay Smith

Ok I will do it now and email you... :)


PaulFXH said:
Hi John
Thanks for your kind offer.
Yes, I would like to take you up on this. However, it is not exactly
clear to me from where Bill James gets the PF information. A cursory
glance at his vbs did little to enlighten me but perhaps you are more
adeppt at these things.
You can email the program to my gmail address in my profile. If this
doesn't work for you I'll post a suitably munged version.
Thanks
Paul
 
J

John Jay Smith

Here you are...

http://www.computerboom.com/support/pagefile.zip

of course you must download www.samurize.com to use it..

see screenshot here:
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/3535/pagefilemeterps8.jpg

have in mind that I had to make a huge image in photoshop
to see a significant change in the graph....

The page file size is correct and I have double checked it with SWI,
the number is different from what taskmanager shows.. but its correct.

You can always edit this to your own preferences...

-Ken
 
H

hummingbird

Actually, this is very reasonable. The max PF usage for the session
will give me 90% of the information I need.
Nevertheless, a graphical representation will enable me to understand a
little (or even a lot) more of what influences PF usage.

I think you may find it's subject to some complex algorithms. Eg:
when I start up IE (actually Avant) it swallows ~22mb of PF even
though there's plenty of RAM available. My TV card also swallows
~35-50mb of PF.

In essence then it doesn't actually do anything more than Bill James'
original utility (I've hotkeyed this latter so I can see it as readily
as I could mouse-over the cacheman icon).
I'll wait to see if John Jay is able to put the promised chart
together.

Good idea.
 
J

John Jay Smith

if you are looking at the windows task manager thats not the true pagefile =
virtual memory...

I say that avant doesnt even cause a dent in the page file..

download the pagefile - meter graph I made with samurize
(see in this thread) from there you will understand better
 
H

hummingbird

if you are looking at the windows task manager thats not the true pagefile =
virtual memory...

Yes I know that.
I say that avant doesnt even cause a dent in the page file..

It does. It maybe that I use a whopping HOSTS file which may get
loaded into the PF when Avant (or IE) is started. There's also the
small matter of other stuff which finds itself into the PF - maybe
the TIC files etc. Whatever, when I shut down Avant last night,
PF usage went down by ~20mb.

Hence my earlier comment that PF usage may be subject to some
complex algorithms within s/w apps.
download the pagefile - meter graph I made with samurize
(see in this thread) from there you will understand better

I will indeed give it a go JJS!
 
P

PaulFXH

John said:
Here you are...

http://www.computerboom.com/support/pagefile.zip

of course you must download www.samurize.com to use it..

see screenshot here:
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/3535/pagefilemeterps8.jpg

have in mind that I had to make a huge image in photoshop
to see a significant change in the graph....

The page file size is correct and I have double checked it with SWI,
the number is different from what taskmanager shows.. but its correct.

You can always edit this to your own preferences...

Hi Ken

I appreciate your efforts on my behalf. Unfortunately, the utility you
sent doesn't seem to work on my computer (not with this operator,

anyway).
I have downloaded and installed Samurize. After unzipping your files, I
click on PageFile.sam. This gives a Samurize ImportExportTool error

message referring to an access violation at address 00538088.
Nevertheless, the tool does appear but I don't seem to be getting very
far with this. In particular, although it does mention the encouraging

word "Success" it also gives the following message "WARNING: Could not
fetch index for pagefile.sys
Anything obvious that I'm overlooking?

TIA
Paul
 
J

John Jay Smith

I send you an email.. can you send me back an email at that address with a
Instant Message address like
msn messenger, yahoo messenger, skype...

so I can add you and guide you through making your own...
 

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