Page view problem

[Guest]

Having a problem with this page. Its not viewing the same as it does in the
"preview in browser". Have to scroll over to read the right margin, etc. I
checked the html and there's some text about "DynAnimation" highlighted. I
went to reports/problems and see a .gif conflict but don't see it in the
html. Can someone tell me whats wrong and whats preventing it from viewing
properly online? Must be something to do with the gif animation on the page?
http://www.caturner.com/hole_hog.htm
thanks, catt

 

[Mark Fitzpatrick]

A big part of the problem is some of the graphics are just too big. The
Red-Hog Express graphic is 642 pixels wide. Most web developers target about
770 pixels wide for the entire page. The image could be forcing the table
cell to expand wider than you really want. Also, the left-hand navigation
seems to be in a table cell that is set to be 1% of the total width. That
will really mess things up because that's where all your navigation is.
between the small table cell and the over-huge image, that could be why
you're getting some odd behavior when you reduce the browser size. Just
remember that most users have 800x600 monitors so you'll want to take that
into account when setting up the design.

Another thing to keep an eye on, you use spaces in the names of your files.
That's a big no-no as there is no space character in a URL. FP is doing a
pretty good job so far of replacing the space character into a safe
character (that's the %20 shown in the URL's) but sometimes it misses and
not all browsers will be smart enough to correct the problem.

Hope this helps,
Mark Fitzpatrick
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage

 

[Guest]

Thanks for your input. I'm going to start right away to alleviate the spaces
in the file names---never knew that. So I'll correct that asap.
I'm concerned about what you said about the left hand nav bar. I had no
control over that since it was applied by the theme (to the best of my
recollection). I don't think I ever consciously had to choose size or
whatever. In fact after I posted my orig note I was looking at the left hand
nav bar. I noticed that there is quite a bit of space between the actual left
hand border of the page and where the nav buttons start. I had a thought to
decrease that space when I could figure out how to safely do it. Recently I
added in that trust logo and I was wondering if that effected the margin.
I will reduce the big picture and see if that corrects the page but did you
see any GIF conflicts on the page. According to my reports there is a gif
conflict on the page. Could I trouble you or someone to look at that?
Thanks very much
Catt

 

[Ronx]

Using shared borders will place the left and right borders in columns
set to a width of 1%, with a 25px wide empty column between the
content and the border. The empty columns will give more problems
with different browsers than the 1% width.

 

[Guest]

Thanks Ronx but that leads to a couple of questions by me.
First, my columns are certainly bigger than 1% of the page. I assume my
'column' is the space that the buttons "Home" or "Custom Products" or
"Contact" reside in. My column is more like 10% of the page, am I missing
something here? my home page is http://www.caturner.com/
2nd- you say "The empty columns will give more problems
with different browsers than the 1% width." and that the empty column is 25
px wide. So, does that mean I can delete the 25 px which would make my page a
little more wide and at the same time steer it away from some potential
viewing problems in diff browsers???
Thanks,
Catt

 

[Stefan B Rusynko]

FP makes the table column 1%, just to reserve space
- it will grow to whatever your content width is

No you can not delete the empty 24 px cells if you use shared borders

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| Thanks Ronx but that leads to a couple of questions by me.
| First, my columns are certainly bigger than 1% of the page. I assume my
| 'column' is the space that the buttons "Home" or "Custom Products" or
| "Contact" reside in. My column is more like 10% of the page, am I missing
| something here? my home page is http://www.caturner.com/
| 2nd- you say "The empty columns will give more problems
| with different browsers than the 1% width." and that the empty column is 25
| px wide. So, does that mean I can delete the 25 px which would make my page a
| little more wide and at the same time steer it away from some potential
| viewing problems in diff browsers???
| Thanks,
| Catt
|
|
| "Ronx" wrote:
|
| > Using shared borders will place the left and right borders in columns
| > set to a width of 1%, with a 25px wide empty column between the
| > content and the border. The empty columns will give more problems
| > with different browsers than the 1% width.
| >
| > --
| > Ron Symonds
| > Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
| > Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
| >
| >
| > | > > Thanks for your input. I'm going to start right away to alleviate
| > > the spaces
| > > in the file names---never knew that. So I'll correct that asap.
| > > I'm concerned about what you said about the left hand nav bar. I
| > > had no
| > > control over that since it was applied by the theme (to the best of
| > > my
| > > recollection). I don't think I ever consciously had to choose size
| > > or
| > > whatever. In fact after I posted my orig note I was looking at the
| > > left hand
| > > nav bar. I noticed that there is quite a bit of space between the
| > > actual left
| > > hand border of the page and where the nav buttons start. I had a
| > > thought to
| > > decrease that space when I could figure out how to safely do it.
| > > Recently I
| > > added in that trust logo and I was wondering if that effected the
| > > margin.
| > > I will reduce the big picture and see if that corrects the page but
| > > did you
| > > see any GIF conflicts on the page. According to my reports there is
| > > a gif
| > > conflict on the page. Could I trouble you or someone to look at
| > > that?
| > > Thanks very much
| > > Catt
| > >
| > > "Mark Fitzpatrick" wrote:
| > >
| > >> A big part of the problem is some of the graphics are just too big.
| > >> The
| > >> Red-Hog Express graphic is 642 pixels wide. Most web developers
| > >> target about
| > >> 770 pixels wide for the entire page. The image could be forcing the
| > >> table
| > >> cell to expand wider than you really want. Also, the left-hand
| > >> navigation
| > >> seems to be in a table cell that is set to be 1% of the total
| > >> width. That
| > >> will really mess things up because that's where all your navigation
| > >> is.
| > >> between the small table cell and the over-huge image, that could be
| > >> why
| > >> you're getting some odd behavior when you reduce the browser size.
| > >> Just
| > >> remember that most users have 800x600 monitors so you'll want to
| > >> take that
| > >> into account when setting up the design.
| > >>
| > >> Another thing to keep an eye on, you use spaces in the names of
| > >> your files.
| > >> That's a big no-no as there is no space character in a URL. FP is
| > >> doing a
| > >> pretty good job so far of replacing the space character into a safe
| > >> character (that's the %20 shown in the URL's) but sometimes it
| > >> misses and
| > >> not all browsers will be smart enough to correct the problem.
| > >>
| > >> Hope this helps,
| > >> Mark Fitzpatrick
| > >> Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
| > >>
| > >> | > >> > Having a problem with this page. Its not viewing the same as it
| > >> > does in
| > >> > the
| > >> > "preview in browser". Have to scroll over to read the right
| > >> > margin, etc. I
| > >> > checked the html and there's some text about "DynAnimation"
| > >> > highlighted. I
| > >> > went to reports/problems and see a .gif conflict but don't see it
| > >> > in the
| > >> > html. Can someone tell me whats wrong and whats preventing it
| > >> > from viewing
| > >> > properly online? Must be something to do with the gif animation
| > >> > on the
| > >> > page?
| > >> > http://www.caturner.com/hole_hog.htm
| > >> > thanks, catt
| > >>
| > >>
| > >>
| >
| >
| >