Page File Size Question

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My XP system recommends a page file setting of 4605 for a 3.00 GB of ram. But
when I enter that amount it prompts me to enter a number lower than 4096.

Any ideas?

Thanks,
 
Zack said:
My XP system recommends a page file setting of 4605 for a 3.00 GB of ram. But
when I enter that amount it prompts me to enter a number lower than 4096.

Any ideas?

Thanks,
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There is no set amount for the page file size you need. It all depends
on the apps you run. In general the more memory you have the less need
there is for a page file, but one is still needed. See this link for
info on virtual memory in XP and how to set the page file. There is a
utility there which shows page file use. Use that to get a feel for how
much you use. Lower usage means you can set the page file lower.

http://aumha.org/win5/a/xpvm.htm
 
Awesome. Thanks for your help.

Rock said:
There is no set amount for the page file size you need. It all depends
on the apps you run. In general the more memory you have the less need
there is for a page file, but one is still needed. See this link for
info on virtual memory in XP and how to set the page file. There is a
utility there which shows page file use. Use that to get a feel for how
much you use. Lower usage means you can set the page file lower.

http://aumha.org/win5/a/xpvm.htm
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Rock

Your answer clearly points Zack in the right direction.

However, the recommendation is the default 1.5 x ram. I would imagine
4,096 is the available disk space. Is my supposition likely to be right?

I wonder what % of the partition / drive free disk space will represent
after setting a page file size. Is there a secondary issue on Zach's
machine?


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Gerry
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Stourport, England

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Gerry said:
Rock

Your answer clearly points Zack in the right direction.

However, the recommendation is the default 1.5 x ram. I would imagine
4,096 is the available disk space. Is my supposition likely to be right?

I wonder what % of the partition / drive free disk space will represent
after setting a page file size. Is there a secondary issue on Zach's
machine?
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I think his numbers sound about right 1 GB is 1024 MB x 3 x 1.5 = 4608
MB. I don't think there is necesarily a problem with his machine.
 
Well my XP has been pretty flaky lately. I do have two 250GB hard disks and I
started using a page file on my d: drive and left the 2-50mb space on the c:

I just thought I should be able to get my page file to at least the XP
recommended size which it will not do.

I have a Dell XPS by the way.
 
Zack

Are the hard drives partitioned?

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Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England

Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
Zack said:
Well my XP has been pretty flaky lately. I do have two 250GB hard disks and I
started using a page file on my d: drive and left the 2-50mb space on the c:

I just thought I should be able to get my page file to at least the XP
recommended size which it will not do.

I have a Dell XPS by the way.
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If you read that link I posted about virtual memory, you'll now see that
the 1.5x which was a rule of thumb in previous versions of the windows
OS does not really apply in XP. In fact with XP's memory handling the
more ram in the system the less you need a page file so as the ram
amount gets large, as you have, then it's overkill. Use that utility to
track your page file use to see what is actually being used based on
your computing habits to determine how much is actually needed.
 
Gerry said:
Rock

Your answer clearly points Zack in the right direction.

However, the recommendation is the default 1.5 x ram. I would imagine
4,096 is the available disk space. Is my supposition likely to be right?

I wonder what % of the partition / drive free disk space will represent
after setting a page file size. Is there a secondary issue on Zach's
machine?
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I wasn't reading the posts very clearly when I responded the last time.
I see your point now. Yes, it's not clear why it won't let him choose
that size. To the OP: are any Norton products installed?
 
No norton products. My AV is NOD32, no partitions.

It ran fine for a the first many months then I got a malware that kept
popping windows up every minute. I fought with that using hijackthis and
finally got rid of it but it has been glitchy since. It starts slow, does not
load the system tray until I log off and back on. Occassionally I get a blue
screen.
 
Zack

Please check Event Viewer for Warning / Error Report in the System and
Application logs over the last 2 days and post copies.

You can access Event Viewer by selecting Start, Administrative Tools, and
Event Viewer. When researching the meaning of the error, information
regarding Event ID, Source and Description are important.

HOW TO: View and Manage Event Logs in Event Viewer in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;308427&sd=tech

Part of the Description of the error will include a link, which you should
double click for further information. You can copy using copy and paste.
Often the link will, however, say there is no further information.
http://go.microsoft.com/fw.link/events.asp
(Please note the hyperlink above is for illustration purposes only)

A tip for posting copies of Error Reports! Run Event Viewer and double click
on the error you want to copy. In the window, which appears is a button
resembling two pages. Double click the button and close Event Viewer. Now
start your message (email) and do a paste into the body of the message. This
will paste the info from the Event Viewer Error Report complete with links
into the message. Make sure this is the first paste after exiting from Event
Viewer.

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Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England

Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
I am on it....

Gerry Cornell said:
Zack

Please check Event Viewer for Warning / Error Report in the System and
Application logs over the last 2 days and post copies.

You can access Event Viewer by selecting Start, Administrative Tools, and
Event Viewer. When researching the meaning of the error, information
regarding Event ID, Source and Description are important.

HOW TO: View and Manage Event Logs in Event Viewer in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;308427&sd=tech

Part of the Description of the error will include a link, which you should
double click for further information. You can copy using copy and paste.
Often the link will, however, say there is no further information.
http://go.microsoft.com/fw.link/events.asp
(Please note the hyperlink above is for illustration purposes only)

A tip for posting copies of Error Reports! Run Event Viewer and double click
on the error you want to copy. In the window, which appears is a button
resembling two pages. Double click the button and close Event Viewer. Now
start your message (email) and do a paste into the body of the message. This
will paste the info from the Event Viewer Error Report complete with links
into the message. Make sure this is the first paste after exiting from Event
Viewer.

--

Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England

Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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One Error:

Event Type: Warning
Event Source: Userenv
Event Category: None
Event ID: 1517
Date: 1/6/2006
Time: 8:22:06 PM
User: NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM
Computer: RICHARD
Description:
Windows saved user RICHARD\Mayo registry while an application or service was
still using the registry during log off. The memory used by the user's
registry has not been freed. The registry will be unloaded when it is no
longer in use.

This is often caused by services running as a user account, try configuring
the services to run in either the LocalService or NetworkService account.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
 
Second error:

Event Type: Error
Event Source: Application Error
Event Category: None
Event ID: 1000
Date: 1/6/2006
Time: 8:32:56 PM
User: N/A
Computer: RICHARD
Description:
Faulting application ccleaner.exe, version 1.26.0.218, faulting module
unknown, version 0.0.0.0, fault address 0x03bffb04.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: 41 70 70 6c 69 63 61 74 Applicat
0008: 69 6f 6e 20 46 61 69 6c ion Fail
0010: 75 72 65 20 20 63 63 6c ure ccl
0018: 65 61 6e 65 72 2e 65 78 eaner.ex
0020: 65 20 31 2e 32 36 2e 30 e 1.26.0
0028: 2e 32 31 38 20 69 6e 20 .218 in
0030: 75 6e 6b 6e 6f 77 6e 20 unknown
0038: 30 2e 30 2e 30 2e 30 20 0.0.0.0
0040: 61 74 20 6f 66 66 73 65 at offse
0048: 74 20 30 33 62 66 66 62 t 03bffb
0050: 30 34 0d 0a 04..
 
Zack

The easy one but I doubt it will have any impact on your main problem:

For Event ID: 1517 download and install the User Profile
Hive Cleanup Service
Download details: User Profile Hive Cleanup Service
http://snipurl.com/5b61

UPHClean v1.5e readme.txt
http://snipurl.com/ko8m

It can speed up Shutdown.


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Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England

Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
Zack

Is this a one off error or does it recur?

What are your anti-virus / anti-spyware arrangements?

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Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England

Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
The CCLeaner is a one time event. This one reoccurs:

Event Type: Error
Event Source: Application Error
Event Category: None
Event ID: 1000
Date: 12/28/2005
Time: 6:47:04 PM
User: N/A
Computer: RICHARD
Description:
Faulting application explorer.exe, version 6.0.2900.2180, faulting module
unknown, version 0.0.0.0, fault address 0x0311fb04.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: 41 70 70 6c 69 63 61 74 Applicat
0008: 69 6f 6e 20 46 61 69 6c ion Fail
0010: 75 72 65 20 20 65 78 70 ure exp
0018: 6c 6f 72 65 72 2e 65 78 lorer.ex
0020: 65 20 36 2e 30 2e 32 39 e 6.0.29
0028: 30 30 2e 32 31 38 30 20 00.2180
0030: 69 6e 20 75 6e 6b 6e 6f in unkno
0038: 77 6e 20 30 2e 30 2e 30 wn 0.0.0
0040: 2e 30 20 61 74 20 6f 66 .0 at of
0048: 66 73 65 74 20 30 33 31 fset 031
0050: 31 66 62 30 34 0d 0a 1fb04..
 
Zack

The cCleaner and the Explorer error record the same fault address.

I am not sure what this means. I will try to find out.

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Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England

Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
Zack said:
One Error:

Event Type: Warning
Event Source: Userenv
Event Category: None
Event ID: 1517
Date: 1/6/2006
Time: 8:22:06 PM
User: NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM
Computer: RICHARD
Description:
Windows saved user RICHARD\Mayo registry while an application or service was
still using the registry during log off. The memory used by the user's
registry has not been freed. The registry will be unloaded when it is no
longer in use.

This is often caused by services running as a user account, try configuring
the services to run in either the LocalService or NetworkService account.
Click to expand...

That's a common issue and not very problematic other than slowing down
logoff or restart/shudown. To take care of it install the User Profile
Hive Cleanup service, Uphclean:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...6D-8912-4E18-B570-42470E2F3582&displaylang=en
 
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