Packet writing software ?

[Andy12437]

Is there any free reliable packet writing software out there, i have used
Nero InCD and Roxio Drag to Disc, but i often lose contents of CDs by both
of these, or CD reading errors.

I am simply wanting to use a CDRW as a floppy disc, that's all.

Cheers
Andy

 

[ss_spa]

Is there any free reliable packet writing software out there, i have used
Nero InCD and Roxio Drag to Disc, but i often lose contents of CDs by both
of these, or CD reading errors.

I am simply wanting to use a CDRW as a floppy disc, that's all.

That is one of the problems with packet writing. There is no guarantee
that your data will last one day or one year. Given the price of a
blank CD, or the cost of a larger hard drive, they may be a better
option if you wish to keep your data for the long term.

tim

 

[Donald G. Davis]

Is there any free reliable packet writing software out there, i have used
Nero InCD and Roxio Drag to Disc, but i often lose contents of CDs by both
of these, or CD reading errors.

I am simply wanting to use a CDRW as a floppy disc, that's all.

I know of no freeware packet writers, but if you are willing to
try another commercial product, try Stomp DLA. I personally find its
directory and file structures more compatible with my operating system and
applications (under Win98SE) than Nero's or Roxio's equivalents. I have
yet to lose any data written to CD-RW disc by DLA, or to have another
UDF-capable machine fail to read them.

 

[Spacey Spade]

Is there any free reliable packet writing software out there, i have used
Nero InCD and Roxio Drag to Disc, but i often lose contents of CDs by both
of these, or CD reading errors.

I am simply wanting to use a CDRW as a floppy disc, that's all.

Cheers
Andy

I too would lose data, so I opted for a hard drive. The only thing I
would try using a rewritable cd for is non-critical stuff like music.
Make sure the cdrom can handle a rewritable cd though (most new cdroms).
However, this is not what I did for music. I use one of my old laptops
to play mp3s in my car. Hard to see the screen of the old laptop in
sunlight, but I believe newer screens reflect light in addition to
illumination (ie. you can see the screen clearly in sunlight).

Sorry if I sidetracked. All you need to know is cdrw's are not
reliable. I would love to be proven wrong, but a lot of people in
newsgroups have complained **. Of note is that newer cd burning
software, like Nero ($), can do a test to see how fast a cd should be
burned (and at what strength the laser should be at). Maybe this will
make the difference? If you go this route, holler back in a few months
(ping Spacey Spade) and let me know your results.

TIA,

Spacey

** No negative comments in cdrfaq.org though.

 

[John Corliss]

Is there any free reliable packet writing software out there, i have used
Nero InCD and Roxio Drag to Disc, but i often lose contents of CDs by both
of these, or CD reading errors.

I am simply wanting to use a CDRW as a floppy disc, that's all.

Andy,
I beat my brains out trying to make UDF (packet) writing work. It
simply doesn't. Period. And I tried 6 different brands of CDRW media.
Either the format would fail or the disc would fail after the second
or third time I wrote (overwriting other files) to it. Eventually I
gave up on CDRW and UDF and switched to Joliet (64 character file name
limitation) and CDR. And as far as I know, there isn't ANY reliable
packe writing software ANYWHERE for CDs, so that means there isn't any
reliable freeware versions of it either. And to the best of my
knowledge, there isn't any reliable or otherwise anyway.

 

[Andy12437]

What's special about Joliet writing, is it different from normal CDR
writing, and if so, how does it differ ?

I use Nero 6.

Cheers
Andy

 

[Spacey Spade]

What's special about Joliet writing, is it different from normal CDR
writing, and if so, how does it differ ?

I use Nero 6.

Cheers
Andy

Same thing:

http://www.google.com/search?q=site:cdrfaq.org+joliet

 

[Libor Striz]

That is one of the problems with packet writing. There is no guarantee
that your data will last one day or one year. Given the price of a
blank CD, or the cost of a larger hard drive, they may be a better
option if you wish to keep your data for the long term.

I have many times read very bad opinion about packet writing.
I have still the opposite opinion
( win98se/InCD 3.39.0/LG GCC 4480B CD-RW/DVD-ROM,
both SW/HW optionally use/support Mount Rainier CD-MRW format)

I must say I use the only one writer, read on more machines
without problems. It is said the problems comes
when more writers is involved. But the question is
what if I use standard session based writing with
different PC / soft / driver / writer ......

 

[John Corliss]

I have many times read very bad opinion about packet writing.
I have still the opposite opinion
( win98se/InCD 3.39.0/LG GCC 4480B CD-RW/DVD-ROM,
both SW/HW optionally use/support Mount Rainier CD-MRW format)

I must say I use the only one writer, read on more machines
without problems. It is said the problems comes
when more writers is involved. But the question is
what if I use standard session based writing with
different PC / soft / driver / writer ......

Libor,
Must admit that I haven't used the Mount Rainier format and have
heard that it's immensely more reliable than standard packet writing.

Here's the Mount Rainier site:

http://www.mt-rainier.org/

and here's a great reference page for trying to figure out the CD/DVD
"Tower of Babel" in general:

http://www.cdrfaq.org/

Thanks for mentioning this format. I'd forgotten all about it.

 

[John Corliss]

What's special about Joliet writing, is it different from normal CDR
writing, and if so, how does it differ? I use Nero 6.

Info on Joliet is here:

http://www.cdrfaq.org/faq03.html#S3-5-4

 

[Donald G. Davis]

Andy,
I beat my brains out trying to make UDF (packet) writing work. It
simply doesn't. Period. And I tried 6 different brands of CDRW media.
Either the format would fail or the disc would fail after the second
or third time I wrote (overwriting other files) to it. Eventually I
gave up on CDRW and UDF and switched to Joliet (64 character file name
limitation) and CDR. And as far as I know, there isn't ANY reliable
packe writing software ANYWHERE for CDs, so that means there isn't any
reliable freeware versions of it either. And to the best of my
knowledge, there isn't any reliable or otherwise anyway.

Running the Stomp DLA (Drive Letter Access) packet writer in the
background under Win98SE, I've had no problems at all on three systems
with different hardware and CDRW drives. I haven't used UDF format for
long-term backup, but for file transfers between locations, it's worked
like a charm--just like using floppy disks, but with several hundred times
the capacity, and without bad sectors. If CDRW media are giving problems,
CDR discs can also be packet-written (at least under DLA), and files can
be added incrementally, or deleted from the directory listing (though not
actually removed); the only disadvantage is that CDR discs, whether
packet-written or otherwise, can't be erased and reused once filled.

 

[Libor Striz]

And as far as I know, there isn't ANY reliable
packe writing software ANYWHERE for CDs, so that means there isn't any
reliable freeware versions of it either. And to the best of my
knowledge, there isn't any reliable or otherwise anyway.

Did you eject such CD by finger or by UDF utility (InCD or so ) ?
Do your errors ( for the try ) occur even using the only writer ?

I am a lucky boy, still waiting for UDF failure.
(for to be on safe side - just system beckup or file transfer )

Note that using M. Rainier write
with Win98SE / InCD3.39.0 / LG GCC 4480B CDRW/DVD

 

[Chris Lee]

What's special about Joliet writing, is it different from normal CDR
writing, and if so, how does it differ ?

I use Nero 6.

Cheers
Andy

There's nothing special about Joliet writing. It's a basically a
Microsoft-corrupted
CDR format.

If you're writing CD's that you want to read under any OS, you're better off
using one
of the ISO formats.

 

[Chris Lee]

I too would lose data, so I opted for a hard drive. The only thing
I
would try using a rewritable cd for is non-critical stuff like
music.
Make sure the cdrom can handle a rewritable cd though (most new
cdroms).
However, this is not what I did for music. I use one of my old
laptops
to play mp3s in my car. Hard to see the screen of the old laptop in
sunlight, but I believe newer screens reflect light in addition to
illumination (ie. you can see the screen clearly in sunlight).

Sorry if I sidetracked. All you need to know is cdrw's are not
reliable. I would love to be proven wrong, but a lot of people in
newsgroups have complained **. Of note is that newer cd burning
software, like Nero ($), can do a test to see how fast a cd should
be
burned (and at what strength the laser should be at). Maybe this
will
make the difference? If you go this route, holler back in a few
months
(ping Spacey Spade) and let me know your results.

TIA,

Spacey

** No negative comments in cdrfaq.org though.

It's not that CDRW's are that unreliable, it's that the Windows CDR software is
basically bloated crap.

I can burn cd's under Linux using cdrecord and the various X GUI shells with
*NONE* of the errors and other problems that people seem to get when Windows
software like NERO.

 

[A man]

Is there any free reliable packet writing software out there, i have used
Nero InCD and Roxio Drag to Disc, but i often lose contents of CDs by both
of these, or CD reading errors.

If you want reliability, just write to a CDR. It takes a little
longer, but it is more reliable in the end. You know you can write to
a CD multiple times, right? Just close the session, but don't close
the CD when you're done.

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[Alastair Smeaton]

Eh? My burner burns CDRW at 12X, CDR at speeds up to 40X.


This only works for data, not multimedia from what I've observed.

I think the issue is less about the time taken to burn data to disc,
and more about having to fire up dedicated burning software, and
configure how you want data written.

Also, depends what you mean by multimedia John - if you mean MP3s, I
think this can be done fairly easily - films or whatever may be
different, but would generally take up a whole disc anyway ?

cheers

 

[John Corliss]

If you want reliability, just write to a CDR. It takes a little
longer,

Eh? My burner burns CDRW at 12X, CDR at speeds up to 40X.

but it is more reliable in the end. You know you can write to
a CD multiple times, right? Just close the session, but don't close
the CD when you're done.

This only works for data, not multimedia from what I've observed.

 

[John Corliss]

I think the issue is less about the time taken to burn data to disc,
and more about having to fire up dedicated burning software, and
configure how you want data written.

Also, depends what you mean by multimedia John - if you mean MP3s, I
think this can be done fairly easily - films or whatever may be
different, but would generally take up a whole disc anyway ?

You can download music videos from usenet too. Stuff that was aired on
MTV and TNN for instance. That and music is what I'm talking about.