P4c800-e deluxe wont start

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Andre

Ok folks, this is the 2nd P4c800-e deluxe I have received from the retailer
and it is yet to work. I previously had a p4p800 that worked fine, but on
the P4c all I get is the green standby power LED on the motherboard being
on, when I press the power button nothing happens, no fan or processor
activation. Given that this is the 2nd board is there something that I am
missing or is this just a bad mother board I await infinite wisdom. Regards
 
J

Joachim Klein

Do you have one of the older P4s which run FSB 400 ?
They don´t run on a i875p mobo like the P4C800...

Cya -

Joachim
 
P

Paul

"Andre" said:
Ok folks, this is the 2nd P4c800-e deluxe I have received from the retailer
and it is yet to work. I previously had a p4p800 that worked fine, but on
the P4c all I get is the green standby power LED on the motherboard being
on, when I press the power button nothing happens, no fan or processor
activation. Given that this is the 2nd board is there something that I am
missing or is this just a bad mother board I await infinite wisdom. Regards

What about your video card ? Is it an older video card that happens
to have only 3.3V I/O ? It is hard to tell on these new motherboards,
whether they have the AGP burnout protection circuit or not - if they
do, you cannot turn on the power via the switch on the front of the
case, until an incompatible video card is removed from the AGP slot.

In fact, you might try that as a test. Remove the video card and see
if the motherboard starts up and gives you the beep pattern that
says there is no video card present. If you strip enough hardware off
the motherboard, you might get some life from it.

HTH,
Paul
 
S

Stephan Collet

Andre said:
Ok folks, this is the 2nd P4c800-e deluxe I have received from the
retailer and it is yet to work. I previously had a p4p800 that worked
fine, but on the P4c all I get is the green standby power LED on the
motherboard being on, when I press the power button nothing happens, no
fan or processor activation. Given that this is the 2nd board is there
something that I am missing or is this just a bad mother board I await
infinite wisdom. Regards

What about the "Bad solder Problem"? Have a look at this:

http://www.techsupportforums.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=41955

http://koti.mbnet.fi/~nightops/eki/DSC00249.JPG

My P4C800-E Deluxe had the same problem - no post - because of this
problem. I modified myself, and now it boots up, but don't runs stable
and warranty is voided. I recommend to exchange the board at your
retailer and look for an original Intel one.
 
A

Andre

Many thanks, actually I have a P4-fsb 800, 2 512MB Pc3200 crucial memory
sticks and the video card is a GeForceFX 5600, Seagate 120MB ATA HD and a
420watt power supply. I am still at a lost, will do some tweaking
 
M

Matt

Hello,
I just bought a P4C800-E Deluxe and am having a similar problem. I
get power to the fans, HD, CD-ROM etc. In addition, the green light
goes on. But that is it. No video, and NO beeps. I remove memory
and there is no beep. I can try removing the CPU tonight, but I am
worried that the board is already. Fried. Where do I start to debug
this problem? I have an older AGP card, but it was marked for
1.5v.... arg!!! This is so frustrating!!!

Any help is greatly appreciated... thanks!

Matt
 
M

Maximus

If you are sure that your video card is working, just try to boot with only
CPU, RAM and video card.

If it does not boot, take out the video card and reboot. Though you cannot
see anything on the screen, the board probably will boot with some beeps.
At least you can guess whether the video card may work or not.


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N

no

dumb question to the person having boot problems. Did you plug in the 4 pin
P4 power cable?
 
P

Patrick Martin

Matt,

I just returned a P4C800-E Deluxe M/B to ASUS due to problems not all that
different from yours. My problem was manifested by the BIOS apparently
"forgetting" data during restarts. Power-off reboots were especially
problematic. On every restart I'd get a BIOS problem. Most of the time it
said that a new CPU was installed and forced me into either accepting
default settings OR going in an manually cleaning up the BIOS settings.
Typically, the BIOS wouldn't do an IDE scan properly and miss the RAID 0
boot-up array.

http://helpdesk.asus.com said the problem sounded like "EMI" interference
and/or improper grounding and suggested removing the motherboard from the
case and power-up just CPU, video card, keyboard, and monitor (no memory).
That produced nothing so I installed the memory and the machine would start.
I then hooked up the floppy disk and found that I could boot to an A-prompt
without exception. Based on this result ASUS recommended electrically
isolating the M/B from the PC case (to a degree) by installing "red paper"
washers under the ten M/B mounting screws AND overlaying the tops of the ten
PC case M/B stand-offs with electricians tape. Be dammed if it didn't seem
to work, ... for awhile. So, I reinstalled all equipment into the Lian-Li
PC-60 case and found that it'd boot w/o incident to XP. Great. I thought I
was home free. So, I then went on to install lots 'o software (lots of
reboots w/o incident) to the point that I was ready to swap the old PC for
this new one. However, after just unplugging, moving, and reconnecting in
the new location (a delta distance of about 10 feet) the BIOS problem return
with a vengeance. I experienced the same 'Black Screen" you described. I
was able to get a display after a few cold reboots, but the display said the
system had halted due to "CPU overclocking". I removed the PC to the
workbench (again), removed the M/B mounting tray from the case and hooked up
everything. After a few boot-ups while manually restoring the BIOS settings
the dam thing would boot to Windows w/o incident. Its at that point that I
got http://helpdesk.asus.com to admit that the board is probably defective.
However, they said that I might try adding MORE electricians tape between
the M/B and when it contacts the mounting tray along the back side around
the connectors. I said thanks, but no thanks and returned the M/B today to
the people who sold it to me, New Egg.Com. New Egg.Com says they'll
cross-ship items (ship replacement items before receipt of old items) other
than CPUs within 30 days of invoice date. ASUS said they wouldn't
cross-ship and that it'd take three to four weeks for a warrantee exchange.

I'd definitely recommend that you remove the M/B from the case, place it on
a non-conducting surface such as a wooden workbench, phone book, or on the
box it came in (be sure to save the box until you're confident the M/B
works) and apply just power, memory, video card, keyboard, and monitor and
see if it'll fire up. If it does, add the pointer, then add a floppy (and a
bootable floppy disk) and test after each step. If it works then try the
red-paper washer and tape over the stand-offs routine and reinstall in the
case. Hopefully, you get a reliable system unlike mine.

BTW Anyone else out there having "EMI/grounding" problems with ASUS M/Bs?
If yes, what's the workaround?
Good luck, -pgm
 
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no

My friend had problems booting to cpu errors and tracked it down to
inadequate ram voltage. Once he increased the voltage to 2.75 volts his
problems went away. This is using OCZ PC3500 ram.

I'm using Corsair PC3200LL ram @ 2.75 volts @ 2,3,5,2 timing and turbo
enabled which yields 2,2,5,2 according to CPU-Z 1.20.
 
J

Jim Shaffer, Jr.

BTW Anyone else out there having "EMI/grounding" problems with ASUS M/Bs?

If the motherboard ground wasn't supposed to be connected to the case, they
wouldn't have designed it that way. I think ASUS has a problem with their
designs. They *definitely* have a problem with their tech support.
 
B

Bill De

Jim Shaffer said:
If the motherboard ground wasn't supposed to be connected to the case, they
wouldn't have designed it that way. I think ASUS has a problem with their
designs. They *definitely* have a problem with their tech support.



"Yes"
I'm sending this junk back today if tech service does not call me
back. I was using a MSI NEO2s board before this and thought that was a
problem. lol hell. I'm done trying to build a system. If these
manufactures could develpe a bios without all this add on crap we
would be better off.
 

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