P&T administtration responsability and viruses ?

[Thierry]

Hi,

Today my PC was under attack by an ActiveX activity launched by a trojan
named Trojan-Downloader.Win32.lstBar.lu, and almost by 2 others,
backdoor.Win32.codbot.at and backdoor.Win32.Rbot.gen.
The first damaged my PC, I repaired. For the 2 others in the meantime I
installed Kaspersky AV that intercepted them.

The two last trojans were downloaded on my PC when I was "idle" on my PC, I
mean there was an active Internet connection because my cablemodem was up
but IExplorer was not open, FTP not open and my email system was not open
either.
NB. Of course this will not prevent these viruses to be downloaded as they
can alsways access to my c: drive in background and lauch an ftp connexion.

My question is : how these trojans arrived on my PC as they were not real
active application open or direct access to a website (the two I accessed a
few minutes earlier where governmental websites) which temporary files have
been automaticlaly deletes leaving Internet.
Who sent them ? Knowing that the PTT administration (my ISP provider)
manages all accesses to Internet, I think that PTT is solmewhere responsible
as that they should use firewalls to prevednt such download to their
customers, isn't it ?.
Why haven't they detect those trojans ? Are they or not responsible of these
problems ? Never ? Sometimes ? Under what conditions of use ? Who knows ?
NB. I just send them an email to get their opinion. I hope to get an answer
tomorrow or in the next days.

Thanks in advance
Thierry

 

[Art]

Hi,

Today my PC was under attack by an ActiveX activity launched by a trojan
named Trojan-Downloader.Win32.lstBar.lu, and almost by 2 others,
backdoor.Win32.codbot.at and backdoor.Win32.Rbot.gen.
The first damaged my PC, I repaired. For the 2 others in the meantime I
installed Kaspersky AV that intercepted them.

The two last trojans were downloaded on my PC when I was "idle" on my PC, I
mean there was an active Internet connection because my cablemodem was up
but IExplorer was not open, FTP not open and my email system was not open
either.
NB. Of course this will not prevent these viruses to be downloaded as they
can alsways access to my c: drive in background and lauch an ftp connexion.

My question is : how these trojans arrived on my PC as they were not real
active application open or direct access to a website (the two I accessed a
few minutes earlier where governmental websites) which temporary files have
been automaticlaly deletes leaving Internet.
Who sent them ? Knowing that the PTT administration (my ISP provider)
manages all accesses to Internet, I think that PTT is solmewhere responsible
as that they should use firewalls to prevednt such download to their
customers, isn't it ?.
Why haven't they detect those trojans ? Are they or not responsible of these
problems ? Never ? Sometimes ? Under what conditions of use ? Who knows ?
NB. I just send them an email to get their opinion. I hope to get an answer
tomorrow or in the next days.

Thanks in advance
Thierry

Thierry, the user is responsible for either closing all internet ports
or using a firewall to block incoming. It's not the responsibility of
the ISP.

Art

http://home.epix.net/~artnpeg

 

[FredW]

Thierry formulated on maandag :

Today my PC was under attack ............

All PC's over the whole world are allways under attack, 24/7

The first damaged my PC, I repaired. For the 2 others in the meantime I
installed Kaspersky AV that intercepted them.

Didn't you have an AV program before?
Do you really say that???

How did you survive on the Internet?

The two last trojans were downloaded on my PC when I was "idle" on my PC

.......
Yes, that sounds familiar.
A couple of weeks ago there was a test somewhere in the UK I believe,
where they connected a number of PC's (12 ?) to the Internet without
any protection to see what would happen.
After an average of 18 (!!) minutes "malware" started flooding the
PC's.

mean there was an active Internet connection because my cablemodem was up

So your PC was wide open to all possible attacks.

My question is : how these trojans arrived on my PC

Better (much, much better) question: How to defend your PC.

Who sent them ?

Thugs (mafia) from Russia, China, any country in the world, the son of
your neighbour, a hacker from Roumania, ................

manages all accesses to Internet, I think that PTT is somewhere responsible
as that they should use firewalls to prevednt such download to their
customers, isn't it ?.

The first and most responsible person is YOU.

As I understand, you didn't even have an AV program and you still
expected to be safe on Internet.
Do you have a firewall???

http://home.rochester.rr.com/bshagnasty/tips.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/a-safe-pc.htm
http://www.claymania.com/safe-hex.html

 

[David H. Lipman]

From: "Thierry" <->

| Hi,
|
| Today my PC was under attack by an ActiveX activity launched by a trojan
| named Trojan-Downloader.Win32.lstBar.lu, and almost by 2 others,
| backdoor.Win32.codbot.at and backdoor.Win32.Rbot.gen.
| The first damaged my PC, I repaired. For the 2 others in the meantime I
| installed Kaspersky AV that intercepted them.
|
< snip>

|
| Thanks in advance
| Thierry
|

Thierry:

This is the third post on the same subject matter and is just a re-hash of the same two
prior posts. Please keep all relevent subject matter posts in the same thread.