Overwrite XP Pro With Legitimate Copy

[Jay]

I have a new client that wants to go "straight". He has XP-Pro SP1 at
the moment and wants to purchase a legitimate copy that I have here,
unopened here in my office.

XP Professional SP2b OEM System Builder Pack (I am a system
builder/assembler).

Question is can this be installed over the existing version and it will
simply install the legitimate license without losing any of his programs
and data? Anything else to be concerned with.

Cheers, Jay

 

[LVTravel]

I have a new client that wants to go "straight". He has XP-Pro SP1 at
the moment and wants to purchase a legitimate copy that I have here,
unopened here in my office.

XP Professional SP2b OEM System Builder Pack (I am a system
builder/assembler).

Question is can this be installed over the existing version and it will
simply install the legitimate license without losing any of his programs
and data? Anything else to be concerned with.

Cheers, Jay

You need to read the restrictions on the System Builder's pack license that
you own. I believe that the SBP license requires you to "build" the system
for you to provide the license to the purchaser of the machine you build.
You may qualify for a built system if you exchange a part as suggested on
some of these newsgroups but I am not a "newsgroup lawyer."

IIRC the SBP can not be used to upgrade a previous installation but must be
installed as a new install. I don't even think the license updating tools
will work with that license but if the license you are selling permits it
you can try.

I am sure that if others disagree, or are more knowledgeable than I, they
will respond with further facts or corrections.

 

[Alias]

I have a new client that wants to go "straight". He has XP-Pro SP1 at
the moment and wants to purchase a legitimate copy that I have here,
unopened here in my office.

XP Professional SP2b OEM System Builder Pack (I am a system
builder/assembler).

Question is can this be installed over the existing version and it will
simply install the legitimate license without losing any of his programs
and data? Anything else to be concerned with.

Cheers, Jay

Use the new XP to do a repair install.

Alias

 

[Jay]

On 23.11.2008 11:25, Alias wrote:

--- Original Message ---

Use the new XP to do a repair install.

Alias

Thanks, and to the other poster, I have no problems with the legal end
of things. The client, is of all things, a law office .. how ironic.

Jay

 

[Xandros]

On 23.11.2008 11:25, Alias wrote:

--- Original Message ---


Thanks, and to the other poster, I have no problems with the legal end
of things. The client, is of all things, a law office .. how ironic.

Jay

And all law firms do things legally all the time?

 

[Randem]

There is a way to legitimize the illegal copy of XP. Microsoft documents it.
You would have to reset the OS to ask for registration then you can enter
the new registration codes and you are now legit. I forget exactly how it is
done but I have done it once before.

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[PaulM]

Just go here and download KeyUpdateTool:
http://www.paulsxp.com/downloads.html

The Genuine Advantage Product Key Update Tool is only valid for users
attempting to change their current non-genuine Product Key to a genuine COA
sticker or genuine Product Key - all without a reinstall! XP ONLY!

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[Jay]

On 23.11.2008 17:12, PaulM wrote:

--- Original Message ---

Just go here and download KeyUpdateTool:
http://www.paulsxp.com/downloads.html

The Genuine Advantage Product Key Update Tool is only valid for users
attempting to change their current non-genuine Product Key to a genuine COA
sticker or genuine Product Key - all without a reinstall! XP ONLY!

Got it, thanks. I assume this will now be registered with MS and will be
able to do the updates online as usual.

Cheers, Jay

 

[VanguardLH]

I have a new client that wants to go "straight". He has XP-Pro SP1 at
the moment and wants to purchase a legitimate copy that I have here,
unopened here in my office.

XP Professional SP2b OEM System Builder Pack (I am a system
builder/assembler).

Question is can this be installed over the existing version and it will
simply install the legitimate license without losing any of his programs
and data? Anything else to be concerned with.

Cheers, Jay

Are you going to build a new system so you can provide them a legit copy
of the OS using your SBP licensing? Or are you going to have the
customer sell you their computer so it becomes your property, you
install a fresh copy of the SBP-licensed OS, and then you sell it back
to the customer as a new build?

Considering that this user has been using pirated software, do you
really believe that nothing else on their host is pirated. Just to
protect your butt, you should probably tell this customer that you will
only perform a complete and fresh install of the OS (on a new build that
you [re]sell back to them). So they must save all their data files
before going through the sell-newbuild-resell cycle. Otherwise, do a
search at Microsoft's support site on how to do a repair install (also
called an in-place upgrade), and prepare for the consequential headaches
of problems that crop up later which the customer will claim were caused
by your upgrade.

 

[PaulM]

If it is a Genuine Product Key.

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---------------------------------------
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Paul's XP and Vista Help Forum

 

[LVTravel]

I have a new client that wants to go "straight". He has XP-Pro SP1 at
the moment and wants to purchase a legitimate copy that I have here,
unopened here in my office.

XP Professional SP2b OEM System Builder Pack (I am a system
builder/assembler).

Question is can this be installed over the existing version and it will
simply install the legitimate license without losing any of his programs
and data? Anything else to be concerned with.

Cheers, Jay

Are you going to build a new system so you can provide them a legit copy
of the OS using your SBP licensing? Or are you going to have the
customer sell you their computer so it becomes your property, you
install a fresh copy of the SBP-licensed OS, and then you sell it back
to the customer as a new build?

Considering that this user has been using pirated software, do you
really believe that nothing else on their host is pirated. Just to
protect your butt, you should probably tell this customer that you will
only perform a complete and fresh install of the OS (on a new build that
you [re]sell back to them). So they must save all their data files
before going through the sell-newbuild-resell cycle. Otherwise, do a
search at Microsoft's support site on how to do a repair install (also
called an in-place upgrade), and prepare for the consequential headaches
of problems that crop up later which the customer will claim were caused
by your upgrade.

The OP says he has no problems with the legal end of things as per post to
Alias..... Just that what he was trying to do originally was to circumvent
the license he has with Microsoft to provide the SBP license on a built
machine. While your method obviously works around the issue, it is just
that, a workaround the legal limits of the license.

Would you really want to either go to that lawyer or have your machine built
or repaired by the OP? If I was the OP, I would tell the legal office to
purchase a full retail license for XP. Just think, the legal office is a
front for Microsoft, in an attempt to catch the people selling SBP products
in violation of the license agreement.

 

[VanguardLH]

I have a new client that wants to go "straight". He has XP-Pro SP1 at
the moment and wants to purchase a legitimate copy that I have here,
unopened here in my office.

XP Professional SP2b OEM System Builder Pack (I am a system
builder/assembler).

Question is can this be installed over the existing version and it will
simply install the legitimate license without losing any of his programs
and data? Anything else to be concerned with.

Cheers, Jay

Are you going to build a new system so you can provide them a legit copy
of the OS using your SBP licensing? Or are you going to have the
customer sell you their computer so it becomes your property, you
install a fresh copy of the SBP-licensed OS, and then you sell it back
to the customer as a new build?

Considering that this user has been using pirated software, do you
really believe that nothing else on their host is pirated. Just to
protect your butt, you should probably tell this customer that you will
only perform a complete and fresh install of the OS (on a new build that
you [re]sell back to them). So they must save all their data files
before going through the sell-newbuild-resell cycle. Otherwise, do a
search at Microsoft's support site on how to do a repair install (also
called an in-place upgrade), and prepare for the consequential headaches
of problems that crop up later which the customer will claim were caused
by your upgrade.

The OP says he has no problems with the legal end of things as per post to
Alias..... Just that what he was trying to do originally was to circumvent
the license he has with Microsoft to provide the SBP license on a built
machine. While your method obviously works around the issue, it is just
that, a workaround the legal limits of the license.

A jobber can buy their parts or components for their builds from
anywhere they like. That can include buying used hardware, even if it
includes buying a whole computer or just the system case. If a customer
then comes along that wants the same hardware config of a used box that
he purchased for parts in his builds, the jobber doesn't have to do much
other than install the OS. After all, the parts belong to the jobber,
not the original customer, when the OS gets installed. "New" systems
are sold all the time with used parts. It is the jobber that is
providing the warranty regarding the usability and durability of the
parts they used in building the computer.

Would you really want to either go to that lawyer or have your machine built
or repaired by the OP? If I was the OP, I would tell the legal office to
purchase a full retail license for XP. Just think, the legal office is a
front for Microsoft, in an attempt to catch the people selling SBP products
in violation of the license agreement.

That "legal office" could be one guy working from a home office (i.e., a
corner of his house that meets the minimum IRS specs that he dedicates
only for business use). A small legal business comprised of several
employees wouldn't be even considering how to get the OS on a host as
they would just buy a new host with it. That's why I think it's a
one-person "law office" that needs to conserve his monies (which he is
probably intermixing with his personal funds).

As I stated, there is nothing to restrict from where a jobber purchases
his parts, used or new, in building "new" hosts. This is not the only
scenario where this technique gets used to obviate law, contracts, or
licenses. Transfer ownership, and do it legally.