Outlook vs. Entourage: Are Windows users stuck with ground glass?

[Roady [MVP]]

Product placement. Outlook has always used Outlook Express for newsgroups in
a standalone (no Exchange) situation. Originally Outlook was targeted
towards the corporate market which has a connection to an Exchange server
and the Exchange server supports NNTP access through Public Folders so there
was no need for Outlook to support NNTP on it's own and has been developed
with that idea. Outlook Express was targeted for the standalone/home
situation and therefor has no Exchange account support but provides NNTP on
it's own so home users can still have NNTP access with their mailclient.

Now that Outlook becomes more and more the solution for home users as well
NNTP support for Outlook has become a hot issue lately and third party tools
NNTP support for Outlook are now available like from MAPILab
http://www.mapilab.com/outlook/nntp/ (if you decide to order use "4PM76A8"
to get a discount).

I don't think you'll see an Outlook Express newsgroup clone in Outlook (in
other words; don't expect 2 separate clients to be developed) or thight
Outlook Express integration so that NNTP can be "native" in Outlook. One
thing I do like to see is that there will be a separate "Office Shell" for
Outlook Express or OE simply to be developed with some more Office like
options like Toolbar customization (the one in OE is a joke because of the
limited amount of buttons available and the options that can be set for it),
VBA support and being able to integrate with other applications.

Well and then there is of course Entourage which is targeted to a completely
different type of user; the MAC user. Since IE and OE on the MAC are loosing
ground (or already gone? :-D) the Offcie Suite includes NNTP access because
Entourage doesn't have OE to fall back on now when used in a non-corporate
environment (Exchange).

Of course; for a complete strategy and product placement explanation you'll
have to call Microsoft! ;-)

--
Robert Sparnaaij [MVP-Outlook]
www.howto-outlook.com

Tips of the month:
-Backup and Restore
-Create an Office XP CD slipstreamed with Service Pack 3

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[Christopher L. Estep]

As most of us are aware, there is Office for Mac (specifically, Office
2004), and the big difference between their Standard Editions is the e-mail
applications (Outlook vs. Entourage). Because I also have a Mac (and use
Outlook on Windows XP Professional), I downloaded the Office 2004 Test Drive
and am running Entourage right now.

In fact, I'm *posting* this from Entourage.

The reviews have been full of raves about Entourage (even when compared to
Outlook). The really weird thing is that there is *one* difference between
Entourage and Outlook...and you're reading it.

Entourage supports NNTP (Usenet-style) servers (and does so
directly)...Outlook doesn't at all.

Could *someone* explain the logic in this to me?

Christopher L. Estep

Sent using the Microsoft Entourage 2004 for Mac Test Drive.

 

[Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]]

Additionally (as a Mac user myself) you will note one major omission from
Entourage 2004 - support for the full Exchange access. All you get are the
mail folders - you get no calendar, journal, etc. as you do with Outlook.
For many, these omissions are show stoppers.

As for being stuck with ground glass - I would rather say that we have
Waterford Crystal while Mac users get Libby glassware. Good enough, but not
full featured.

--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

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While thinking hard, Christopher L. Estep <[email protected]>
queried:
| As most of us are aware, there is Office for Mac (specifically, Office
| 2004), and the big difference between their Standard Editions is the
| e-mail applications (Outlook vs. Entourage). Because I also have a
| Mac (and use Outlook on Windows XP Professional), I downloaded the
| Office 2004 Test Drive and am running Entourage right now.
|
| In fact, I'm *posting* this from Entourage.
|
| The reviews have been full of raves about Entourage (even when
| compared to Outlook). The really weird thing is that there is *one*
| difference between Entourage and Outlook...and you're reading it.
|
| Entourage supports NNTP (Usenet-style) servers (and does so
| directly)...Outlook doesn't at all.
|
| Could *someone* explain the logic in this to me?
|
| Christopher L. Estep
|
| Sent using the Microsoft Entourage 2004 for Mac Test Drive.