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vernon
During or after conversion.
1. Some getting used to?
2. A snap?
3. A disaster?
1. Some getting used to?
2. A snap?
3. A disaster?
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Justin
vernon said:During or after conversion.
1. Some getting used to?
The surface is pretty much the same. It'll be very familiar.
2. A snap?
Yup.
3. A disaster?
I wouldn't say that but there are some bugs to be worked out. However it's
perfectly functional and usable.
R
R. C. White, MVP
Hi, Vernon.
I'd say Justin's comments are right on. But...
There's no "conversion". WinXP and prior have OE; WM cannot be installed on
WinXP. Vista has WM, and OE cannot be installed on it. Just as OE was
"built in" to WinXP, WM is "built in" to Vista. If you have Vista, then you
have WM - and vice versa. So there's no way to "convert" from one mail
program to the other on either platform.
But the transition might seem like a "conversion" for us users. ;^}
The only part of the transition that might be called a conversion is
Importing prior mail accounts and messages from OE. OE keeps all mail files
in a few folders. A thousand email messages in a single folder are stored
as a single large .dbx file. Corruption in a single message might make the
other 999 messages inaccessible, too. WM keeps each email in a separate
..eml file, so a thousand messages requires a thousand .eml files.
Corruption in one message won't affect the others. But if we want to keep
our old OE message store and use it in WM (and most of us do), then we must
Import that data and let WM "convert" it to the new database format. It's a
one-time project, but it might take several hours if you have a lot of
messages to bring forward. (Don't bother to import newsgroup posts; WM will
need to download those again from the news servers.) If you don't need or
want to import old emails, then forget this whole paragraph.
Once the messages are imported, using WM feels very much like using OE. WM
was extensively rewritten from OE, but most of the changes are "under the
skin". The user interface changes are evolutionary, not revolutionary.
RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
(e-mail address removed)
Microsoft Windows MVP
(Running Windows Mail in Vista Ultimate x64)
I'd say Justin's comments are right on. But...
There's no "conversion". WinXP and prior have OE; WM cannot be installed on
WinXP. Vista has WM, and OE cannot be installed on it. Just as OE was
"built in" to WinXP, WM is "built in" to Vista. If you have Vista, then you
have WM - and vice versa. So there's no way to "convert" from one mail
program to the other on either platform.
But the transition might seem like a "conversion" for us users. ;^}
The only part of the transition that might be called a conversion is
Importing prior mail accounts and messages from OE. OE keeps all mail files
in a few folders. A thousand email messages in a single folder are stored
as a single large .dbx file. Corruption in a single message might make the
other 999 messages inaccessible, too. WM keeps each email in a separate
..eml file, so a thousand messages requires a thousand .eml files.
Corruption in one message won't affect the others. But if we want to keep
our old OE message store and use it in WM (and most of us do), then we must
Import that data and let WM "convert" it to the new database format. It's a
one-time project, but it might take several hours if you have a lot of
messages to bring forward. (Don't bother to import newsgroup posts; WM will
need to download those again from the news servers.) If you don't need or
want to import old emails, then forget this whole paragraph.
Once the messages are imported, using WM feels very much like using OE. WM
was extensively rewritten from OE, but most of the changes are "under the
skin". The user interface changes are evolutionary, not revolutionary.
RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
(e-mail address removed)
Microsoft Windows MVP
(Running Windows Mail in Vista Ultimate x64)
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NotMe
But even importing settings from XP Pro, it doesn't allow me the access to
my hotmail accounts that I had setup in XP.
Reading email in my browser isn't my idea of an improvement.
my hotmail accounts that I had setup in XP.
Reading email in my browser isn't my idea of an improvement.
B
Bob C
"Windows Live Mail Desktop" works like outlook express (multi accounts
including hotmail.) Most imports are done at first run. So far so good.
Aloha,
BobC
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including hotmail.) Most imports are done at first run. So far so good.
Aloha,
BobC
___________________________________________________________________________________________________
J
Justin
WLMd is much better then Windows Mail. For some reason they stopped
development on Windows Mail. I think it's because of the choice to move
forward with Outlook Express Live (OEL). Who knows. However they continued
development on WLMd and most of that work will branch into OEL.
However, again, WLMd has bugs as well. It's still in beta. So expect small
"issues".
development on Windows Mail. I think it's because of the choice to move
forward with Outlook Express Live (OEL). Who knows. However they continued
development on WLMd and most of that work will branch into OEL.
However, again, WLMd has bugs as well. It's still in beta. So expect small
"issues".
P
Plato
Justin said:WLMd is much better then Windows Mail. For some reason they stopped
Try Thunderbird.
J
Julian
Justin said:WLMd is much better then Windows Mail. For some reason they stopped
development on Windows Mail. I think it's because of the choice to move
forward with Outlook Express Live (OEL). Who knows. However they
continued development on WLMd and most of that work will branch into OEL.
However, again, WLMd has bugs as well. It's still in beta. So expect
small "issues".
A large disadvantage, for me at least, of WLMd is that it doesn't
mark posts in multiple groups as read.
J
Julian
Plato said:Try Thunderbird.
A large disadvantage, for me at least, of Tbird is that it doesn't
mark posts in multiple groups as read.
J
Justin
Julian said:A large disadvantage, for me at least, of WLMd is that it doesn't
mark posts in multiple groups as read.
According to others in this NG both Windows Mail and WLMd will do that.
A
Andrea
Julian pisze:
Of course it does - if you install 'newsworthy' add-on
A large disadvantage, for me at least, of Tbird is that it doesn't
mark posts in multiple groups as read.
Of course it does - if you install 'newsworthy' add-on
J
Julian
Justin said:According to others in this NG both Windows Mail and WLMd will do that.
I'll have another go with WLMd.
I'll be glad if I can get it to do likewise.
J
Julian
Andrea said:Julian pisze:
Of course it does - if you install 'newsworthy' add-on
Wow! Real news!
Cool... I'll try that.
If they made a combine & decode
I'd use TB by default.
J
Julian
Andrea said:Julian pisze:
Of course it does - if you install 'newsworthy' add-on
I can't find a version for Thunderbird 2.
http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/6201/1985/1600/Nichiren.jpg
A
Andrea
Julian pisze:
As for now Newsworthy is compatible only with Thunderbird 1.5.X.X -
which is still much better than OE or WM.
I can't find a version for Thunderbird 2.
http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/6201/1985/1600/Nichiren.jpg
As for now Newsworthy is compatible only with Thunderbird 1.5.X.X -
which is still much better than OE or WM.
J
Julian
Andrea said:Julian pisze:
As for now Newsworthy is compatible only with Thunderbird 1.5.X.X -
which is still much better than OE or WM.
....if it could combine and decode.
J
Julian
Julian pisze:
As for nowNewsworthyis compatible only with Thunderbird 1.5.X.X -
which is still much better than OE or WM.
I've just replaced Tbird 2 with 1.5.X.X
The Newsworthy install instructions say...
....In Mozilla Thunderbird, open Add-ons from the Tools menu...
Unfortunately the Add-ons button, present in TB2,
has gone walkabout in, my install of, TB1.5.
What a bummer.
A
Andrea
Julian pisze:
I've used polish version of TB 1.5, but as far as i remember you should
look for 'extensions' or something like this from the tools menu .
Use your common sense, Julian.
I've just replaced Tbird 2 with 1.5.X.X
The Newsworthy install instructions say...
...In Mozilla Thunderbird, open Add-ons from the Tools menu...
Unfortunately the Add-ons button, present in TB2,
has gone walkabout in, my install of, TB1.5.
What a bummer.
I've used polish version of TB 1.5, but as far as i remember you should
look for 'extensions' or something like this from the tools menu .
Use your common sense, Julian.
J
Julian
Andrea said:Julian pisze:
I've used polish version of TB 1.5, but as far as i remember you should
look for 'extensions' or something like this from the tools menu .
I've tried extensions, Newsworthy can't be installed by that function.
Use your common sense, Julian.
Ah... a showstopper I'm afraid.
Cheers anyway.
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