Outlook and IMAP and message filtering and searching

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When using IMAP on Outlook (2003 and 2000), when you apply a filter, or
a rule, to move that meassge to a folder...I take it, it's downloading
that message and saving it to the harddrive?
Or just the header?
I just did a test, and when the filter applied, the message was found
in the target folder, but the original message is still in the Inbox,
but with a line through it like it's deleted or queued to be deleted.
So...what's happening here with the message? Where is it ending up?
Is using IMAP with Outlook but moving messages around, not saving any
local HD space any more than POP3?

Thanks for any tip and help!
Liam

 

[Brian Tillman]

When using IMAP on Outlook (2003 and 2000), when you apply a filter,
or a rule, to move that meassge to a folder...I take it, it's
downloading that message and saving it to the harddrive?
Or just the header?
I just did a test, and when the filter applied, the message was found
in the target folder, but the original message is still in the Inbox,
but with a line through it like it's deleted or queued to be deleted.

Correct. It's queued to be deleted. To complete the deletion, click
Edit>Purged Deleted Messages

So...what's happening here with the message? Where is it ending up?

You answered your own question: it's in the folder to which you moved it and
marked for deletion in the Inbox.

Is using IMAP with Outlook but moving messages around, not saving any
local HD space any more than POP3?

It depends on where you move it. If you move it to an IMAP folder, it will
be on the IMAP server. If you move it to a local PST folder, that's where
it will be.

 

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You answered your own question: it's in the folder to which you moved it and
marked for deletion in the Inbox.


It depends on where you move it. If you move it to an IMAP folder, it will
be on the IMAP server. If you move it to a local PST folder, that's where
it will be.

Thanks for the reply!

But I wonder about the server-side folder thing.
This user, who doesn't have a home folder and is directly accessing his
/var/spool/mail/user file, when we move a message to another
folder...it doesn't seem to be anywhere on the server. Thus, doesn't
appear to be an IMAP folder.

When _I_ do it, using Kmail and a home dir on the server (I have a
symlink in there pointing to my spool...is there a better way? That may
be more of a Linux group question,) when I move a message, it creates a
new file in my home dir on the server that serves as the new "folder"
in Kmail. I can't find anything like that for this Outlook using user.
I can only conclude the message is saved on his HD.

Even if it's "cached" on his HD, isn't that really the same as residing
on his HD? It's still taking up that much space on the local PST, yes?

Thanks!
Liam

 

[Brian Tillman]

But I wonder about the server-side folder thing.
This user, who doesn't have a home folder and is directly accessing
his /var/spool/mail/user file, when we move a message to another
folder...it doesn't seem to be anywhere on the server. Thus, doesn't
appear to be an IMAP folder.

I don't know how Unix-based IMAP servers actually implement their message
stores, but the definition of IMAP is that the client does not keep local
copies of the server contents (except, perhaps in a cache for performance
sake). Moving an item from one IMAP folder to another IMAP folder moves it
around on the server side.

When _I_ do it, using Kmail and a home dir on the server (I have a
symlink in there pointing to my spool...is there a better way? That
may be more of a Linux group question,) when I move a message, it
creates a new file in my home dir on the server that serves as the
new "folder" in Kmail. I can't find anything like that for this
Outlook using user. I can only conclude the message is saved on his
HD.

IMAP clients can only reflect what is contained on the server.

Even if it's "cached" on his HD, isn't that really the same as
residing on his HD? It's still taking up that much space on the local
PST, yes?

Well, yes, there is a PST on the local hard drive containing copies of those
messages that have been read on the server (the folders are empty for those
folders on the server that haven't been opened), but it generally won't
mimic the entire contents of the server. So, any messages that have been
read reside on both the server and client sides, but unviewed items are
solely on the server until viewed.