OT: Upgraded my OS today (but not Vista)

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Stephan Rose

Thought I'd share this even though it's not Vista related, hence marked OT
for those who want to skip it.

Was running Ubuntu 6.10, now running 7.04 (beta)...

Clean install? No. In-Place upgrade.
Download time? ~25 minutes.
Install time? ~20 minutes.

Bumps in the road? One that I expected to hit.

The bump I hit being the nVidia driver I am running. New version of ubuntu
uses a newer Kernel (with some nice support for Virtualization and VMWare
so I can run Windows where it belongs...in a window) and due to that reason
my nVidia driver being compiled for the previous kernel won't run with the
new kernel. I kind of expected to hit this bump but I kept the nVidia
driver installed just to see how it would be handled.

On reboot, got an error message in text mode that the driver failed to start
up and got dumped to the command line. Preferable over Windows' simply
locking up or bluescreening I think.

So 10 seconds later, since I do know how, I changed to the generic vesa
driver and turned off my second display. I realize though that editing a
text file can be beyond the abilities of the average user and that is
something that needs to change. I am not going to disagree there. And
before you point at "hardware support issues" ..don't respond yet. Keep
reading. I am not done yet.

Reboot...boots up fine..log into desktop fine. On first glance, everything
short of my video driver appears functional. So next I go to test out the
new feature not present in any previous releases: Restricted Driver Manager
located in the System->Administration Menu.

First time around it complained to me that the restricted modules package
was missing. Don't know if that is just a beta bug (package not being
installed automatically) or if the package is intended to not be installed
automatically since Ubuntu favors non-proprietary stuff. Regardless, a few
mouse clicks later package is installed via the package manager. Though I
will say that there is some room for improvement here as it could offer to
automatically install the package instead of me having to do so.

So after the soooo "excruciating" task of selecting the package and clicking
the install button, I go back to the restricted driver manager. Comes right
up...and what do we have here! A little list box, with a column listing my
devices that have restricted (proprietary) drivers available. Only one in
my case, my video card! Also shows version information, which was 9755 and
next to that is a little checkbox for "enable". Click it...it downloads the
driver...and then asks me to reboot.

Reboot my system..and here I am running with the 9755, most-recent linux
version, driver from nVidia and all it took to install it was a few mouse
clicks. Also means that on future OS upgrades, I no longer need to worry
about my video driver anymore like I had to do this time since now it will
automatically upgrade together with the OS.

See, *this* is the kind of stuff that impresses me! Every single piece of
software I have still works. All my desktop settings are still intact and
my desktop is still the way I want it. All my hardware works and the last
remnants of semi-"difficult" driver installation (nvidia) are now gone. No
more command lines to install video drivers. Just click it and enable it...

From what I understand by reading the website, codecs are also exceedingly
easier to install now. Shouldn't even need Automatix anymore I think. It
supposedly has something similar now to how the restricted driver install
works for codecs that comes up when trying to play a file that has the
needed codec missing. I can't test this though as I already have all codecs
installed.

I find improvements like that to be far more impressive than useless
eye-candy UI, exceedingly high hardware requirements and very poor software
compatibility such as what Vista offers.

Another nice new feature of my new kernel? Kernel Virtualization Support for
VM Ware so starting with version 6.0 of VMWare I can take advantage of the
hardware support my CPU has for virtualization and really put windows where
it belongs...into a window. =) Fitting place for it isn't it?

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Stephan
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Zim Babwe

Thought I'd share this even though it's not Vista related, henced marked OT

Yesterday was Sunday and the sun was shining, the wife went shopping so I
thought, what to do in the morning. I already had plans for the afternoon.
I decided to look in the garage and what-do-ya-know, I found some car wax.
I thought, hey, a good time to wash and wax the car. Incredible luck that
the wife went shopping so she couldn't nag me about spending time in the
garage.

I washed the car, dried it off, careful to get all the spots. Then once the
car was dry, I put it in the garage so the car wouldn't heat up when I
applied the wax. About an hour or so later, I was done. I stood back and
looked at my shiny car. Good job, I said. I could have been in the house
wondering about Unix or Linux or Ubuntu, but no, I just wanted to be outside
on a sunny day.

That is my story and I'm sticking to it.
 
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Stephan Rose

Zim said:
Thought I'd share this even though it's not Vista related, henced marked
OT

Yesterday was Sunday and the sun was shining, the wife went shopping so I
thought, what to do in the morning. I already had plans for the
afternoon. I decided to look in the garage and what-do-ya-know, I found
some car wax.
I thought, hey, a good time to wash and wax the car. Incredible luck that
the wife went shopping so she couldn't nag me about spending time in the
garage.

I washed the car, dried it off, careful to get all the spots. Then once
the car was dry, I put it in the garage so the car wouldn't heat up when I
applied the wax. About an hour or so later, I was done. I stood back and
looked at my shiny car. Good job, I said. I could have been in the house
wondering about Unix or Linux or Ubuntu, but no, I just wanted to be
outside on a sunny day.

That is my story and I'm sticking to it.

Nothing wrong with that. =)

Matter of fact..it's a sunny day here too! About to go get on my bike and go
for a ride and get some dinner! Won't be wondering about any OS either.
Only the food on my table will be on my mind. =)

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Stephan
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Justin

Stephan Rose said:
Matter of fact..it's a sunny day here too! About to go get on my bike and
go
for a ride and get some dinner! Won't be wondering about any OS either.
Only the food on my table will be on my mind. =)

Sunny "day"? Dinner? What time do you eat dinner? ;p
 
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MICHAEL

Justin said:
Sunny "day"? Dinner? What time do you eat dinner? ;p

Here's a funny article about lunch, dinner, and supper.

http://www.english.uga.edu/freshcomp/English_1101_Barnett2002.htm

Lunch is What Spaceships Do . . .
by Mark J. Dial

<quote>
One afternoon my stomach began to growl. David and I had spent that morning proving humans'
superiority to trees. So, I casually asked if he would like to join me for lunch, but little
did I know that this oft-heard question was meaningless to a wise man like David. He stared in
confusion, as if to say, "What is this lunch you speak of?" I contemplated his bewildered look,
thinking he had not heard my question. I repeated the request and was once again met with a
similar expression.
</quote>


-Michael
 
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Stephan Rose

David said:
I gave my dog a bath.
The point? Who really cares about your Ubuntu install, marked as OT or
not?

A couple people in here that I exchange messages with occasionally would be
interested. Rather than trying to find the individual threads...this was
the simpler solution. =)

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Stephan
2003 Yamaha R6

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Stephan Rose

Justin said:
Sunny "day"? Dinner? What time do you eat dinner? ;p

It was still perfectly bright and shiny outside at 5pm...sounds late enough
for dinner to me. =)


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Stephan
2003 Yamaha R6

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Justin

Stephan Rose said:
It was still perfectly bright and shiny outside at 5pm...sounds late
enough
for dinner to me. =)

Then what do you do at 10pm when your starving again replying to NGs? :)
 
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David B.

You guys must have your own newsgroups to BS about Linux on, Does it need to
be here? If you have only "a couple people" that are interested, wouldn't an
email to them be more appropriate than a Windows Vista newsgroup?

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Nina DiBoy

Stephan said:
Nothing wrong with that. =)

Matter of fact..it's a sunny day here too! About to go get on my bike and go
for a ride and get some dinner! Won't be wondering about any OS either.
Only the food on my table will be on my mind. =)

Just to be consistent and keep the OT thing going in this thread, what
do you ride? :)

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Zim Babwe

I have an Infiniti M35. Love the car. One of the best features... It
DOESN'T have a Microsoft OS on the Nav screen!
 
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Stephan Rose

David said:
You guys must have your own newsgroups to BS about Linux on, Does it need
to be here? If you have only "a couple people" that are interested,
wouldn't an email to them be more appropriate than a Windows Vista
newsgroup?


Well seeing how these people are people I talk to in *this* very Windows
Vista newsgroup and don't know their e-mail addresses...that made this the
place!

If it bothers you so much...just don't read the post. =)

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Stephan
2003 Yamaha R6

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Stephan Rose

Nina said:
Just to be consistent and keep the OT thing going in this thread, what
do you ride? :)

2003 Yamaha R6 is what I ride.
2006 Audi A3 2.0L TDI is what I drive.

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Stephan
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Dale White

Synapse Syndrome said:
In the UK it is generally northerners that say dinner instead of lunch.
In London we say lunch. They call dinner tea. Tea? Weird.

ss.

That's kinda funny. A place as small as England, you guys refer to people
has northerners.Though it's normally the southerners (and mid westeners) in
the US that say Dinner for Lunch and supper for Dinner. I know when I moved
from Backwoods, KY to Washington, DC I got hounded by the locals all the
time for saying that. Even though Maryland and DC are technically
Southerners as well.
 
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Justin

Dale White said:
That's kinda funny. A place as small as England, you guys refer to people
has northerners.Though it's normally the southerners (and mid westeners)
in the US that say Dinner for Lunch and supper for Dinner. I know when I
moved from Backwoods, KY to Washington, DC I got hounded by the locals all
the time for saying that. Even though Maryland and DC are technically
Southerners as well.

Missouri, Georgia, NY and Florida:

Lunch = Lunch
Dinner = Dinner
 
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Mike Hall - MS MVP

Dale, as small as England may be, it still does have a north and south.. :)


Dale White said:
That's kinda funny. A place as small as England, you guys refer to people
has northerners.Though it's normally the southerners (and mid westeners)
in the US that say Dinner for Lunch and supper for Dinner. I know when I
moved from Backwoods, KY to Washington, DC I got hounded by the locals all
the time for saying that. Even though Maryland and DC are technically
Southerners as well.

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Mike Hall
MS MVP Windows Shell/User
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