OT: Post development issues

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Nak

Hi there,

Is it just me or is every shareware distributor under the miss
apprehension that they are doing you some huge favour by dedicating a few
bytes on their web server to having a page describing your latest hard
efforts?

I'm trying to find a site that actually gets hits occasionally but
reviews the software within a thousand years! I've had a free product on
snap files since last year now, what I have just done is re-written in from
the ground up and replaced it. What did snap files do? They simply changed
the page links, didn't even update the description and screen shot or review
it, so now everyone seeing the page sees no difference even though it's far
superior! And in doing so they have walked straight past my commercial
product waiting for review for the past 3 months! Christ!

So I've approached Tucows again, with very low aspirations, as last time
I attempted to submit a product they insisted I needed to make a virtual
cardboard box for it, once made they refused it because the installer didn't
work apparently?!?! Strange that, worked on *every* other system I tried it
on. But anyway, so yeah, that's probably going to take a millennia before
they say, ummm no, just because they can! Which completely destroys my
hopes of making a living out of developing and selling software. I was
aiming for 1% sales, now I don't even know if I'll get 0.1%!

Yeah, so that's nice, anyone else experienced this? Any good sites to
submit my products too (Free and commercial) that don't try charging for you
for including your product amongst the ether of a thousand other titles with
similar descriptions, like Download.com, and don't expect you to be highly
greatful just for even downloading your application, like Tucows.

Pah!

Nick.
 
Cor Ligthert said:
When you was a regular visitor/contributor to this newsgroup you would know
that
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Do you use some sort of software translator? That sentence should be:

If you were a regular visitor/contributor to this newsgroup then you would know that.

Considering that If and Then are words you often use (in programming), I
would think you would have learned to use 'If' correctly in your English.
I just wonder why you often substitute When, where If should be used?

When = Time related
If = Conditional relation

They can be interchanged in a few cases (for slightly different meanings), but not
in all cases. Unfortunately, unlike the German words wann and wenn, if and when
are spelled so differently, it is easy to spot them (if / when ;-) they are used out of
place....

(That was an example of a sentence where they might be interchanged, resulting
in only a slight difference in meaning. If you think about what the difference is
between using one or the other in that sentence, it may help you to remember where
each should be used.)

Just so you know, had your sentence above been given proper grammer:

'When you were a regular /.../ newsgroup, you knew that.'

The use of When (like that) indicates he was at one time a regular member
and you are refering to the time past, when he was a regular member.
(Even if he wasn't a regular member....)

HTH
LFS
 
Larry,

The same as in Dutch Als/Indien/Wanneer-As/If/When

I use "If" as there is a exact condition possible. "When" more as it is a
syntentax like this. However I think that it is more what you see that I
seldom use the word "as" when it should be used. Probably when I had thought
about it more, I would have written.

"When you had been a regular visitor/contributor to this newsgroup then you
would have knowed that...."

I think not that I would have used the word "If" probably it could be "As".

However thanks that you showed too me that I use often wrong "when", I think
I will use "as" more.

:-)

Cor
 
Larry,

It is even possible that you understood the meaning of my message wrong.

Nick has in past together with a lot of persons in this newsgroup worked to
get the shareware ready.

My sentence was based on that.

(However that I should use more "as", stays)

Cor
 
What is this to do with VB.NET???

Can't you read the subject? "OT" stands for Off Topic!

Nick.
 
Hi Cor,
Nick has in past together with a lot of persons in this newsgroup worked
to get the shareware ready.
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Yeah sorry for the OT post, just very stressed out today. In regard to
OHM's post of what the most valuable thing to a developer would be, I would
say someone that can host and sell your software. It's very well spending
christ knows how much time and effort developing if you can't get the final
bit done very well, and let's face it, how many people can do it on their
own? I had considered hosting a web site myself, but then that just brings
up loads more problems.

I've used this group under all circustances now, while working for a
company, while self employed and for my personal use. I didn't think it
would annoy anyone if I vented like this, especially as I put "OT" in the
subject. But fair enough I suppose, I didn't even mention the names of my
programs to prevent advertising! I just want to know what other people do,
and books on this subject are very few, far between and irrelivant under
most cases.

Anyway, not to worry!

microsoft.public.dotnet.developers < would be nice

Nick.
 
Was just going to make the same point. Why on earth edit the 'OT' out of
the subject header?
 
Hi there,
Was just going to make the same point. Why on earth edit the 'OT' out of
the subject header?
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Yeah I couldn't quite work that one out either. To be honest with you I
don't really want an answer now, just needed to vent, which I know is a bad
use for this newsgroup so I appologies for that. I still hate the shareware
distibutors though! ;-)

Nick.
 
Nak said:
Hi there,


Yeah I couldn't quite work that one out either. To be honest with you I
don't really want an answer now, just needed to vent, which I know is a bad
use for this newsgroup so I appologies for that. I still hate the shareware
distibutors though! ;-)
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Nothing wrong with a little venting every now and then. Good for the soul i
reckon.
Good idea about that additional newsgroup. Theres more to software than
just coding it....i.e the business of it.
Still not very good marketing Nick..... you never even took the op in your
OT to tell us what your product is...!

"I've had a free product on snap files since last year now, " vrs "I had
the most incredible xyz component on snap files
since last year. Xyz has the following "cant live without features" that
deliver the following "life changing benefits".
All for just $59.95USD. Undoubtedly the most incredible release of
2004..and what did snap files do?
...Rant Rant..

You gotta learn to hustle while you wait, mate!

;)

Richard
 
Hi LHS,

I actually found your explaination of if and/or when to use if/when to be
more confusing than Cors use of them.
I hope your not in charge of your products documentation.

;)

Richard
 
Richard Myers said:
I actually found your explaination of if and/or when to use if/when to be
more confusing than Cors use of them.
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It wasn't meant for your consumption. I included words and phrases that
would help to insure proper translation, just in case he was using a software
based translator. IOW, it was targeted toward a specific audience, and may
have been a bit confusing to others not a part of that audience....

LFS
 
Nak said:
Yeah, so that's nice, anyone else experienced this? Any good
sites to
submit my products too (Free and commercial) that don't try charging
for you for including your product amongst the ether of a thousand
other titles with similar descriptions, like Download.com, and don't
expect you to be highly greatful just for even downloading your
application, like Tucows.
Click to expand...

Do you have your own website?
 
Nothing wrong with a little venting every now and then. Good for the soul
i
reckon.
Good idea about that additional newsgroup. Theres more to software than
just coding it....i.e the business of it.
Still not very good marketing Nick..... you never even took the op in your
OT to tell us what your product is...!
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Haha, naah, that would make me a hypocrite to the extreme. I don't
agree with advertising in here unless it's for a free product. Just my view
on the subject as there are so many people that milliciously advertise in
the MS newsgroups.
"I've had a free product on snap files since last year now, " vrs "I had
the most incredible xyz component on snap files
since last year. Xyz has the following "cant live without features" that
deliver the following "life changing benefits".
All for just $59.95USD. Undoubtedly the most incredible release of
2004..and what did snap files do?
..Rant Rant..

You gotta learn to hustle while you wait, mate!
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LMAO, but I wasn't advertising! haha, I made the new program free and
open source for the community! I mentioned my commercial product but I
expected that to take an eternity, just not to be walked past in such a way.

http://www.members.lycos.co.uk/nickpatemanpwp/soft-wtr2.htm
^ Free opensource Web The Ripper 2

All I want is downloads!, no money from it, I'm sure you know the sence
of pride when your app is downloaded on a large scale. It got 100 odd
downloads just yesterday, if it was described properly it would have had
more. But oh well. Anyway I'll shut up now.

Nick.
 
Hi Lucas
Do you have your own website?
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Yeah, I got a nice ASP.NET enabled one, although I'm just using HTML at
the moment. But my site would never get the hits of a shareware
distributor, and submitting it to search engines takes long enough! :-(
Maybe if I was more into web development and didn't loath the
(WYSIWYG-Sometimes) editors, I would be able to make a nicer site but that's
a whole new kettle of fish and the last thing I want to do is pay £500+ just
to prevent an error message appearing on the screen when a customer enters
my secure section. But I suppose that's another story isn't it?

Nick.
 
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