OT:?? adsl vs adsl/2 mbps's

R

RJK

Anyone up to speed on all this stuff ?

A few weeks ago I got a Linksys WAG354G adsl/router version 1.0 and a
WMP54G - wireless "g" pci card for Dads' PC downstairs and all is ok, on my
Orange "Option 2" 1mbps broadband - 6gb dl cap. When I 'phoned Orange to
ask why I was paying £22.99 a month for this when their newest service is
up to 8mbps dl speed / unlimited dl's + a free Live box, the luvly young
lady signed me up for it.

So it looks like there's be a Livebox arriving in the post soon. Anyway,
How do all these different speeds relate to each other ?

e.g. my Wag354g is connected using an ethernet RJ45 lead to my motherboards'
10/100 rj45 ethernet port ! What's the LAN/ethernet 10 and what's the 100 ?
The LAN connection icon in my system tray shows 100mbps when I hover the
mouse arrow on it. I assume this is bits and not bytes and is a decimal
quantitiy / i.e. not hexadecimal ?
What's the "8 meg" that' I'll be on soon with Orange - is it 80
megaBITSperSecond ..'s ? :)

Dad's pci wireless "g" card always connects at its' top speed of 54mbps.
Is the mbps, million bits per second - decimal ? ..will I be getting "8
meg." download speeds hexadecimal ? e.g. 8 x 1024 kb's

Will my Linksys beable to take advantage of this Orange "8 meg." dl speed,
in relation my rj45 ethernet port 10/100 ...whatever that is or should I use
the Livebox ..that I can't seem to find mych info on, other than its' VOIP
feature which I'll probably never use ?

regards, Richard
 
R

RJK

Anyone up to speed on all this stuff ?

A few weeks ago I got a Linksys WAG354G adsl/router version 1.0 and a
WMP54G - wireless "g" pci card for Dads' PC downstairs and all is ok, on my
Orange "Option 2" 1mbps broadband - 6gb dl cap. When I 'phoned Orange to
ask why I was paying £22.99 a month for this when their newest service is
up to 8mbps dl speed / unlimited dl's + a free Live box FOR JUST £19.99
....(i left out in OP), the luvly young
lady signed me up for it.

So it looks like there's be a Livebox arriving in the post soon. Anyway,
How do all these different speeds relate to each other ?

e.g. my Wag354g is connected using an ethernet RJ45 lead to my motherboards'
10/100 rj45 ethernet port ! What's the LAN/ethernet 10 and what's the 100 ?
The LAN connection icon in my system tray shows 100mbps when I hover the
mouse arrow on it. I assume this is bits and not bytes and is a decimal
quantitiy / i.e. not hexadecimal ?
What's the "8 meg" that' I'll be on soon with Orange - is it 80
megaBITSperSecond ..'s ? :)

Dad's pci wireless "g" card always connects at its' top speed of 54mbps.
Is the mbps, million bits per second - decimal ? ..will I be getting "8
meg." download speeds hexadecimal ? e.g. 8 x 1024 kb's

Will my Linksys beable to take advantage of this Orange "8 meg." dl speed,
in relation my rj45 ethernet port 10/100 ...whatever that is or should I use
the Livebox ..that I can't seem to find mych info on, other than its' VOIP
feature which I'll probably never use ?

regards, Richard
 
L

Lem

RJK said:
Anyone up to speed on all this stuff ?

A few weeks ago I got a Linksys WAG354G adsl/router version 1.0 and a
WMP54G - wireless "g" pci card for Dads' PC downstairs and all is ok, on my
Orange "Option 2" 1mbps broadband - 6gb dl cap. When I 'phoned Orange to
ask why I was paying £22.99 a month for this when their newest service is
up to 8mbps dl speed / unlimited dl's + a free Live box FOR JUST £19.99
...(i left out in OP), the luvly young
lady signed me up for it.

So it looks like there's be a Livebox arriving in the post soon. Anyway,
How do all these different speeds relate to each other ?

e.g. my Wag354g is connected using an ethernet RJ45 lead to my
motherboards'
10/100 rj45 ethernet port ! What's the LAN/ethernet 10 and what's the
100 ?
The LAN connection icon in my system tray shows 100mbps when I hover the
mouse arrow on it. I assume this is bits and not bytes and is a decimal
quantitiy / i.e. not hexadecimal ?
What's the "8 meg" that' I'll be on soon with Orange - is it 80
megaBITSperSecond ..'s ? :)

Dad's pci wireless "g" card always connects at its' top speed of 54mbps.
Is the mbps, million bits per second - decimal ? ..will I be getting "8
meg." download speeds hexadecimal ? e.g. 8 x 1024 kb's

Will my Linksys beable to take advantage of this Orange "8 meg." dl speed,
in relation my rj45 ethernet port 10/100 ...whatever that is or should I
use
the Livebox ..that I can't seem to find mych info on, other than its' VOIP
feature which I'll probably never use ?

regards, Richard
DSL/Cable connection "speeds" are usually given in Mbps (mega bits per
second). Your "8 meg" rating means 8 Mbps.

Ethernet connections (for most home networks) are usually either 10 Mpbs
or 100 Mbps, and the Ethernet connections on most home routers and
network interface cards automatically select the correct value (that's
why they are designated 10/100 connections). Most of the time, your home
LAN should have a [theoretical] top speed of 100 Mbps. In practice,
you'll get something less than that.

Wireless G has a max speed of 54 Mbps (not counting "turbo" or other
speed-enhancing modes).

What does all of this mean? For most home networks, wired or wireless,
the bottleneck is the connection to your ISP. If you get anywhere near
8 Mbps you will be blazing (and your internal network devices will be
able to keep up just fine).

As far as I know, the "Mega" and "Kilo" in Mbps and Kbps refer to the
good old Greek values of 1,000,000 and 1,000. BTW, if the "b" is
capitalized, as in MBps, it means megabytes per second.
 
R

RJK

Thanks LEM,

.....I do have a grasp of the general speed specificatons, and what goes
where !
What I can't find an answer to, (have just spent another half hour Googling
and reading - still can't find answers), is - Is there a limit to the
"speed" at which data can be received from the ISP, (via my ADSL
connection), by my older version 1.0 Linksys WAG354G adsl modem/router.
i.e. Will it benefit from the "8 meg" bb that I've just signed up to.
Perhaps I'm just confusing the speed of my on motherboard ethernet chipset
(10/100), ...some where along the line I got the impression that the
fastest my WAG354G could receive data was 1mbps, I now suspect this is wrong
....so frustrating not being able to find generrla information on this.

regards, Richard


Lem said:
RJK said:
Anyone up to speed on all this stuff ?

A few weeks ago I got a Linksys WAG354G adsl/router version 1.0 and a
WMP54G - wireless "g" pci card for Dads' PC downstairs and all is ok, on
my
Orange "Option 2" 1mbps broadband - 6gb dl cap. When I 'phoned Orange to
ask why I was paying £22.99 a month for this when their newest service
is
up to 8mbps dl speed / unlimited dl's + a free Live box FOR JUST £19.99
...(i left out in OP), the luvly young
lady signed me up for it.

So it looks like there's be a Livebox arriving in the post soon. Anyway,
How do all these different speeds relate to each other ?

e.g. my Wag354g is connected using an ethernet RJ45 lead to my
motherboards'
10/100 rj45 ethernet port ! What's the LAN/ethernet 10 and what's the
100 ?
The LAN connection icon in my system tray shows 100mbps when I hover the
mouse arrow on it. I assume this is bits and not bytes and is a decimal
quantitiy / i.e. not hexadecimal ?
What's the "8 meg" that' I'll be on soon with Orange - is it 80
megaBITSperSecond ..'s ? :)

Dad's pci wireless "g" card always connects at its' top speed of 54mbps.
Is the mbps, million bits per second - decimal ? ..will I be getting "8
meg." download speeds hexadecimal ? e.g. 8 x 1024 kb's

Will my Linksys beable to take advantage of this Orange "8 meg." dl
speed,
in relation my rj45 ethernet port 10/100 ...whatever that is or should I
use
the Livebox ..that I can't seem to find mych info on, other than its'
VOIP
feature which I'll probably never use ?

regards, Richard
DSL/Cable connection "speeds" are usually given in Mbps (mega bits per
second). Your "8 meg" rating means 8 Mbps.

Ethernet connections (for most home networks) are usually either 10 Mpbs
or 100 Mbps, and the Ethernet connections on most home routers and network
interface cards automatically select the correct value (that's why they
are designated 10/100 connections). Most of the time, your home LAN should
have a [theoretical] top speed of 100 Mbps. In practice, you'll get
something less than that.

Wireless G has a max speed of 54 Mbps (not counting "turbo" or other
speed-enhancing modes).

What does all of this mean? For most home networks, wired or wireless,
the bottleneck is the connection to your ISP. If you get anywhere near 8
Mbps you will be blazing (and your internal network devices will be able
to keep up just fine).

As far as I know, the "Mega" and "Kilo" in Mbps and Kbps refer to the good
old Greek values of 1,000,000 and 1,000. BTW, if the "b" is capitalized,
as in MBps, it means megabytes per second.
--
Lem MS MVP -- Networking

To the moon and back with 64 Kbits of RAM and 512 Kbits of ROM.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer
 
B

- Bobb -

RJK,

go to http://speakeasy.net/speedtest/ or www.dslreports.com and run SPEED
TEST
It will send data to the PC and report the fastest speed.
If, for example the best ( after a few tries) is only 1400kps then paying
for 6000kps or 10000kps is gonna be a waste. BUT if you're getting near the
max now - then it would be worth it ( if you tranmit/download a lot of big
files). If you're surfing the web you won't notice the difference - there
you're subject to the SERVER's limit - not yours.

Bobb



RJK said:
Thanks LEM,

....I do have a grasp of the general speed specificatons, and what goes
where !
What I can't find an answer to, (have just spent another half hour
Googling and reading - still can't find answers), is - Is there a limit to
the "speed" at which data can be received from the ISP, (via my ADSL
connection), by my older version 1.0 Linksys WAG354G adsl modem/router.
i.e. Will it benefit from the "8 meg" bb that I've just signed up to.
Perhaps I'm just confusing the speed of my on motherboard ethernet chipset
(10/100), ...some where along the line I got the impression that the
fastest my WAG354G could receive data was 1mbps, I now suspect this is
wrong ...so frustrating not being able to find generrla information on
this.

regards, Richard


Lem said:
RJK said:
Anyone up to speed on all this stuff ?

A few weeks ago I got a Linksys WAG354G adsl/router version 1.0 and a
WMP54G - wireless "g" pci card for Dads' PC downstairs and all is ok, on
my
Orange "Option 2" 1mbps broadband - 6gb dl cap. When I 'phoned Orange
to
ask why I was paying £22.99 a month for this when their newest service
is
up to 8mbps dl speed / unlimited dl's + a free Live box FOR JUST £19.99
...(i left out in OP), the luvly young
lady signed me up for it.

So it looks like there's be a Livebox arriving in the post soon.
Anyway,
How do all these different speeds relate to each other ?

e.g. my Wag354g is connected using an ethernet RJ45 lead to my
motherboards'
10/100 rj45 ethernet port ! What's the LAN/ethernet 10 and what's the
100 ?
The LAN connection icon in my system tray shows 100mbps when I hover the
mouse arrow on it. I assume this is bits and not bytes and is a decimal
quantitiy / i.e. not hexadecimal ?
What's the "8 meg" that' I'll be on soon with Orange - is it 80
megaBITSperSecond ..'s ? :)

Dad's pci wireless "g" card always connects at its' top speed of 54mbps.
Is the mbps, million bits per second - decimal ? ..will I be getting "8
meg." download speeds hexadecimal ? e.g. 8 x 1024 kb's

Will my Linksys beable to take advantage of this Orange "8 meg." dl
speed,
in relation my rj45 ethernet port 10/100 ...whatever that is or should I
use
the Livebox ..that I can't seem to find mych info on, other than its'
VOIP
feature which I'll probably never use ?

regards, Richard

Anyone up to speed on all this stuff ?

A few weeks ago I got a Linksys WAG354G adsl/router version 1.0 and a
WMP54G - wireless "g" pci card for Dads' PC downstairs and all is ok,
on my Orange "Option 2" 1mbps broadband - 6gb dl cap. When I 'phoned
Orange to ask why I was paying £22.99 a month for this when their
newest service is up to 8mbps dl speed / unlimited dl's + a free Live
box, the luvly young lady signed me up for it.

So it looks like there's be a Livebox arriving in the post soon.
Anyway,
How do all these different speeds relate to each other ?

e.g. my Wag354g is connected using an ethernet RJ45 lead to my
motherboards' 10/100 rj45 ethernet port ! What's the LAN/ethernet 10
and what's the 100 ?
The LAN connection icon in my system tray shows 100mbps when I hover
the mouse arrow on it. I assume this is bits and not bytes and is a
decimal quantitiy / i.e. not hexadecimal ?
What's the "8 meg" that' I'll be on soon with Orange - is it 80
megaBITSperSecond ..'s ? :)

Dad's pci wireless "g" card always connects at its' top speed of
54mbps.
Is the mbps, million bits per second - decimal ? ..will I be getting
"8 meg." download speeds hexadecimal ? e.g. 8 x 1024 kb's

Will my Linksys beable to take advantage of this Orange "8 meg." dl
speed, in relation my rj45 ethernet port 10/100 ...whatever that is or
should I use the Livebox ..that I can't seem to find mych info on,
other than its' VOIP feature which I'll probably never use ?

regards, Richard
DSL/Cable connection "speeds" are usually given in Mbps (mega bits per
second). Your "8 meg" rating means 8 Mbps.

Ethernet connections (for most home networks) are usually either 10 Mpbs
or 100 Mbps, and the Ethernet connections on most home routers and
network interface cards automatically select the correct value (that's
why they are designated 10/100 connections). Most of the time, your home
LAN should have a [theoretical] top speed of 100 Mbps. In practice,
you'll get something less than that.

Wireless G has a max speed of 54 Mbps (not counting "turbo" or other
speed-enhancing modes).

What does all of this mean? For most home networks, wired or wireless,
the bottleneck is the connection to your ISP. If you get anywhere near 8
Mbps you will be blazing (and your internal network devices will be able
to keep up just fine).

As far as I know, the "Mega" and "Kilo" in Mbps and Kbps refer to the
good old Greek values of 1,000,000 and 1,000. BTW, if the "b" is
capitalized, as in MBps, it means megabytes per second.
--
Lem MS MVP -- Networking

To the moon and back with 64 Kbits of RAM and 512 Kbits of ROM.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer
 

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