OS Developer-Need Childrens User Option

[Guest]

There must be a very large market for families with children that must
control what the children can do on the computer given they do not have the
passwords for the administrator/s. In the next update to the OS, please add
the ability of the administrator to build a start menu for a child's use and
prevent that user from accessing any program that is not in that menu. That
includes the ability to reach the Windows Explorer, My Computer or the
Microsoft IE Browser. Computers are essential for children's development,
but we must be able to control their environment when we are not present.
This includes control of the keyboard which may automatically open some of
these programs.

 

[Jim Macklin]

Buy XP Pro, it will do all that now using Group Policies.


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But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.


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| There must be a very large market for families with
children that must
| control what the children can do on the computer given
they do not have the
| passwords for the administrator/s. In the next update to
the OS, please add
| the ability of the administrator to build a start menu for
a child's use and
| prevent that user from accessing any program that is not
in that menu. That
| includes the ability to reach the Windows Explorer, My
Computer or the
| Microsoft IE Browser. Computers are essential for
children's development,
| but we must be able to control their environment when we
are not present.
| This includes control of the keyboard which may
automatically open some of
| these programs.
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| CMS WRC

 

[Rick \Nutcase\ Rogers]

Hi,

How to contact the Microsoft Wish program:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=114491

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Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone

Windows help - www.rickrogers.org

 

[Rick \Nutcase\ Rogers]

Yes, but they should have some control measures in the Home edition too. A
simplified set perhaps, but they should be there none the less.

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Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone

Windows help - www.rickrogers.org

 

[kurttrail]

There must be a very large market for families with children that must
control what the children can do on the computer given they do not
have the passwords for the administrator/s. In the next update to
the OS, please add the ability of the administrator to build a start
menu for a child's use and prevent that user from accessing any
program that is not in that menu. That includes the ability to reach
the Windows Explorer, My Computer or the Microsoft IE Browser.
Computers are essential for children's development, but we must be
able to control their environment when we are not present. This
includes control of the keyboard which may automatically open some of
these programs.

Take responsibility for you own children. If you want to control every
thing they do with a computer, then don't let them use the computer
unsupervised.

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"Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
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[Bruce Chambers]

There must be a very large market for families with children that must
control what the children can do on the computer given they do not have the
passwords for the administrator/s. In the next update to the OS, please add
the ability of the administrator to build a start menu for a child's use and
prevent that user from accessing any program that is not in that menu. That
includes the ability to reach the Windows Explorer, My Computer or the
Microsoft IE Browser. Computers are essential for children's development,
but we must be able to control their environment when we are not present.
This includes control of the keyboard which may automatically open some of
these programs.

That functionality already exists within WinXP. You simply need to
learn to use it.


HOW TO Create and Configure User Accounts in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;279783

HOW TO Set, View, Change, or Remove File and Folder Permissions
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;q308418

HOW TO Use the Internet Explorer 6 Content Advisor to Control Access
to Web Sites in Internet Explorer
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;310401

Protect Your PC
http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/default.asp

For some requirements, you may find it easier to invest in a
3rd-party solution, such as NetNanny or CyberPatrol.

You need to be aware, however, that *NO* technical or software
solution is fool-proof, and _none_ can ever adequately take the place
of live parental supervision. If you cannot trust your children to
safely use the computer without supervision, you may have to consider
limiting their use of it.


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both at once. - RAH

 

[Guest]

I spent 26 years protecting my country in uniform and 17 yrs as a Civil
Servant. Please do not tell me about freedom and how it is earned. I am not
a total novice with computers as I have built a few and written several
programs, some still used by a major headquarters of the U.S. Army. I had
hopes you could help me with the ability to require a password to the IE
browser, but the one offered (content advisor) limits all users and the user
must enter the password for every site they wish to visit. If there was one
password just to enter the IE browser without a check of every site would
solve the problem. I have an Earthlink provided children's browser which I
want them to use, but as long as they can open the Microsoft IE browser(used
by adults) without permission, it defeats the purpose of having the
children's browser. At this moment no one has provided a solution to either
locking the Start Menu or Password protecting use of the Microsoft IE
browser. This machine is used by adults and children. Trust is not a
consideration when children want to become adults and there is noone there to
prevent exploration.

 

[kurttrail]

I spent 26 years protecting my country in uniform and 17 yrs as a
Civil Servant. Please do not tell me about freedom and how it is
earned. I am not a total novice with computers as I have built a few
and written several programs, some still used by a major headquarters
of the U.S. Army. I had hopes you could help me with the ability to
require a password to the IE browser, but the one offered (content
advisor) limits all users and the user must enter the password for
every site they wish to visit. If there was one password just to
enter the IE browser without a check of every site would solve the
problem. I have an Earthlink provided children's browser which I
want them to use, but as long as they can open the Microsoft IE
browser(used by adults) without permission, it defeats the purpose of
having the children's browser. At this moment no one has provided a
solution to either locking the Start Menu or Password protecting use
of the Microsoft IE browser. This machine is used by adults and
children. Trust is not a consideration when children want to become
adults and there is noone there to prevent exploration.

Your unsupervised brats are your problem. There are cases that can lock
the power button behind a door. Buy one. And only adults having the
key and unlocking the computer when the brats can be supervised.

Your brats will probably end up hating you, but I suspect they already
do. Using technology to limit human behavior is so . . . . inhuman.
You aren't teaching them anything about personal responsibility, by
using technology to make them conform to that technology's will.

While conformity may be a desireable trait for someone in the military,
it teaches nothing about freedom and the reponsibility of exercising it
in the REAL world where we have to live a life of our own, not just
blindly following the orders of so-called superiors.

People are fighting every day in the US and around the world for freedom
without big expensive guns, and without conforming to the will of
technology and those that control it!

And TRUST is a very important consideration when children want to become
adults, because only by pushing that trust to the limit as kids, can
they truely understand the limits and the responsibility of freedom
later on in life as adults. Otherwise you are just raising little
button-pushers that have no mind or will of their own!

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Peace!
Kurt
Self-anointed Moderator
microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
http://microscum.com
"Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"

 

[Bruce Chambers]

I spent 26 years protecting my country in uniform and 17 yrs as a Civil
Servant.

Your point? I spent 24 years on active duty and am also still in
government employ. I don't see the relevance.

Please do not tell me about freedom and how it is earned.

I didn't. Are you sure you responded to the correct post?

I am not
a total novice with computers as I have built a few and written several
programs, some still used by a major headquarters of the U.S. Army.

Is this to imply that you don't really need our help, but are instead
playing a game of "stump the chump?"

I had
hopes you could help me with the ability to require a password to the IE
browser, but the one offered (content advisor) limits all users and the user
must enter the password for every site they wish to visit.

As you must already know, given your claimed experience, like Win2K,
WinXP's file security paradigm doesn't rely on, or allow, the cumbersome
method of password protection for individual applications, files, or
folders. Instead, it uses the superior method of explicitly assigning
file/folder permissions to individual users and/or groups.

HOW TO Create and Configure User Accounts in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;279783

HOW TO Set, View, Change, or Remove File and Folder Permissions
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;q308418

HOW TO Set, View, Change, or Remove Special Permissions for Files and
Folders
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;[LN];Q308419

HOW TO Set the My Documents Folder as Private in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;298399

If there was one
password just to enter the IE browser without a check of every site would
solve the problem. I have an Earthlink provided children's browser which I
want them to use, but as long as they can open the Microsoft IE browser(used
by adults) without permission, it defeats the purpose of having the
children's browser.

So, simply use the information provided at the sites listed to deny the
children access to IE.





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You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on having
both at once. - RAH

 

[Kelly]

This can be done now via the registry no matter which XP version you are
running. As for the next update or version having such an item, I can't
really see that happening or needed especially since the Limited/Guest
account are already accessible as is/are the registry to combat the same.

Please keep in mind that XP stems (per se') from the best of Win98SE and W2K
(NT kernel), thus compiling a very unique power structured operating system
for those who are not in the industrial world but want to take advantage of
the security realms at home.

That in itself should be enough. However, for over three years, pc home
users fail to see what has been offered to them, either via lack of
knowledge or the pure lack of utilizing research tools. Simply said,
Google.

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All the Best,
Kelly (MS-MVP)

Troubleshooting Windows XP
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com

 

[Guest]

First and foremost, thanks for your help. I may have offended you and I am
sorry, but the quote at the end of your post from "RAH" about having peace or
freedom triggered a raw nerve. Please remember the Strategic Air Command
quote about freedom. Thanks to your links to Microsoft solutions, I was
able to solve my problem, but I remain convinced the Microsoft needs a
Childrens User Option so that John Doe as a parent and administrator can
select only those programs that he/she wants their children/grandchildren to
execute without going to the solutions provided at this time. It must me
simple and openly apparent for John Q Public.... THANKS, AGAIN
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I spent 26 years protecting my country in uniform and 17 yrs as a Civil
Servant.

Your point? I spent 24 years on active duty and am also still in
government employ. I don't see the relevance.

Please do not tell me about freedom and how it is earned.

I didn't. Are you sure you responded to the correct post?

I am not
a total novice with computers as I have built a few and written several
programs, some still used by a major headquarters of the U.S. Army.

Is this to imply that you don't really need our help, but are instead
playing a game of "stump the chump?"

I had
hopes you could help me with the ability to require a password to the IE
browser, but the one offered (content advisor) limits all users and the user
must enter the password for every site they wish to visit.

As you must already know, given your claimed experience, like Win2K,
WinXP's file security paradigm doesn't rely on, or allow, the cumbersome
method of password protection for individual applications, files, or
folders. Instead, it uses the superior method of explicitly assigning
file/folder permissions to individual users and/or groups.

HOW TO Create and Configure User Accounts in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;279783

HOW TO Set, View, Change, or Remove File and Folder Permissions
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;q308418

HOW TO Set, View, Change, or Remove Special Permissions for Files and
Folders
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;[LN];Q308419

HOW TO Set the My Documents Folder as Private in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;298399

If there was one
password just to enter the IE browser without a check of every site would
solve the problem. I have an Earthlink provided children's browser which I
want them to use, but as long as they can open the Microsoft IE browser(used
by adults) without permission, it defeats the purpose of having the
children's browser.

So, simply use the information provided at the sites listed to deny the
children access to IE.





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Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:



You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on having
both at once. - RAH