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Tommy
Is there a special plug-in or any other additional
software patches needed to use the organizational charts
in powerpoint?
software patches needed to use the organizational charts
in powerpoint?
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Steve Rindsberg
Is there a special plug-in or any other additional
software patches needed to use the organizational charts
in powerpoint?
No, but I'd guess you're having a problem with them?
Let us know what version of PowerPoint you have and what problem you're running
into.
G
Guest
I have a similar problem. I have a organisation chart created in Office 2000. I upgraded my office to 2003. When I open the chart, I received the message "The Microsoft Organization Chart server application can't be found". What do I need to do? Thanks
Quek
----- Steve Rindsberg wrote: ----
No, but I'd guess you're having a problem with them
Let us know what version of PowerPoint you have and what problem you're running
into
-
Steve Rindsberg, PPT MV
PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.co
PPTools: www.pptools.co
Quek
----- Steve Rindsberg wrote: ----
Is there a special plug-in or any other additional
software patches needed to use the organizational charts
in powerpoint
No, but I'd guess you're having a problem with them
Let us know what version of PowerPoint you have and what problem you're running
into
-
Steve Rindsberg, PPT MV
PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.co
PPTools: www.pptools.co
S
Steve Rindsberg
2000. I upgraded my office to 2003. When I open the chart, I received theI have a similar problem. I have a organisation chart created in Office
message "The Microsoft Organization Chart server application can't be
found". What do I need to do? Thanks.
Office 2003 no longer includes Org Chart, the application that PowerPoint
used to launch when you inserted organization charts into earlier versions.
If you let the Office installer remove your earlier version when you
upgraded, it may have removed Org Chart. I'm not sure, but it seems likely.
The Org Chart application is the "server" that the error message is
referring to. Without it, you won't be able to edit the org chart normally,
but you can probably ungroup it to convert it into the shapes and text and
lines that make it up, then edit those as you would other shapes in PPT.
If you substitute PowerPoint's connnectors for the regular lines in the
chart, you may end up with something that's easier to customize than the
original org chart version, so it's not that bad a tradeoff, really.
G
Guest
I'm using Office 2000 Pro corporate edition. My users cannot use the organization chart feature
Is there something I need to do to allow them to use the feature specifically?
Is there something I need to do to allow them to use the feature specifically?
J
John Langhans [MSFT]
[CRITICAL UPDATE - Anyone using Office 2003 should install the critical
update as soon as possible. From PowerPoint, choose "Help -> Check for
Updates".]
Hello,
The MS Organization Chart 2.0 (MSOC2) application is no longer provided
with Office products (beginning with Microsoft Office System 2002) and, if
upgrading from a previous version which included MSOC2, it is removed from
the system because it is "discontinued" technology. Because of this, if you
try to edit an MSOC2 object in Office 2003 you will receive the generic
error that occurs whenever you try to edit/open an OLE object for which no
server application is available. In Office 2002 we attempted to convert
MSOC2 charts to the new Office Diagramming feature for organization charts
but, because of differences in capabilities there were some MSOC2 chart
styles which did not convert well so this conversion is no longer attempted
in Office 2003.
If, in the short term, you are running PowerPoint/Office 2003 and still
need to edit organization charts created using the old MSOC2 tool, you can
download the tool from Microsoft Office Online:
http://download.microsoft.com/download/D/0/9/D09F6E71-D39C-41DF-8DCF-89F6552
66CEE/msoc2.exe
In the long term, you should begin to recreate your charts in either the
new diagramming feature of Microsoft Office System 2003 or, for more
complex charts, look at using the great Organization Chart features
available in Microsoft Visio 2003.
If you (or anyone else reading this message) feel strongly about any
specific enhancement requests for creating organization diagrams in
PowerPoint/Office, don't forget to send your feedback to Microsoft at:
http://register.microsoft.com/mswish/suggestion.asp
As with all product suggestions, it's important that you not just state
your wish but also WHY it is important to you that your product suggestion
be implemented by Microsoft. Microsoft receives thousands of product
suggestions every day and we read each one but, in any given product
development cycle, there are only sufficient resources to address the ones
that are most important to our customers so take the extra time to state
your case as clearly and completely as possible.
IMPORTANT: Each submission should be a single suggestion (not a list of
suggestions).
John Langhans
Microsoft Corporation
Supportability Program Manager
Microsoft Office PowerPoint for Windows
Microsoft Office Picture Manager for Windows
For FAQ's, highlights and top issues, visit the Microsoft PowerPoint
support center at: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=ppt
Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base at:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbhowto
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
Use of any included script samples are subject to the terms specified at
http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.htm
update as soon as possible. From PowerPoint, choose "Help -> Check for
Updates".]
Hello,
The MS Organization Chart 2.0 (MSOC2) application is no longer provided
with Office products (beginning with Microsoft Office System 2002) and, if
upgrading from a previous version which included MSOC2, it is removed from
the system because it is "discontinued" technology. Because of this, if you
try to edit an MSOC2 object in Office 2003 you will receive the generic
error that occurs whenever you try to edit/open an OLE object for which no
server application is available. In Office 2002 we attempted to convert
MSOC2 charts to the new Office Diagramming feature for organization charts
but, because of differences in capabilities there were some MSOC2 chart
styles which did not convert well so this conversion is no longer attempted
in Office 2003.
If, in the short term, you are running PowerPoint/Office 2003 and still
need to edit organization charts created using the old MSOC2 tool, you can
download the tool from Microsoft Office Online:
http://download.microsoft.com/download/D/0/9/D09F6E71-D39C-41DF-8DCF-89F6552
66CEE/msoc2.exe
In the long term, you should begin to recreate your charts in either the
new diagramming feature of Microsoft Office System 2003 or, for more
complex charts, look at using the great Organization Chart features
available in Microsoft Visio 2003.
If you (or anyone else reading this message) feel strongly about any
specific enhancement requests for creating organization diagrams in
PowerPoint/Office, don't forget to send your feedback to Microsoft at:
http://register.microsoft.com/mswish/suggestion.asp
As with all product suggestions, it's important that you not just state
your wish but also WHY it is important to you that your product suggestion
be implemented by Microsoft. Microsoft receives thousands of product
suggestions every day and we read each one but, in any given product
development cycle, there are only sufficient resources to address the ones
that are most important to our customers so take the extra time to state
your case as clearly and completely as possible.
IMPORTANT: Each submission should be a single suggestion (not a list of
suggestions).
John Langhans
Microsoft Corporation
Supportability Program Manager
Microsoft Office PowerPoint for Windows
Microsoft Office Picture Manager for Windows
For FAQ's, highlights and top issues, visit the Microsoft PowerPoint
support center at: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=ppt
Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base at:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbhowto
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
Use of any included script samples are subject to the terms specified at
http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.htm
S
Steve Rindsberg
I'm using Office 2000 Pro corporate edition. My users cannot use the
organization chart feature.
I'm not positive, but I think that Org Chart was one of the optional install
features; that is, it wasn't included in a default Office install.
Try re-running setup on one of the computers and choose Custom rather than
Typical install; see if you can add Org Chart to their setup that way.
If that's not it, please supply more info. Why can't the users use the
feature? Is it that it's not even there on the menu or that they get error
messages when they try to use it or ...?
organization chart feature.
specifically?Is there something I need to do to allow them to use the feature
I'm not positive, but I think that Org Chart was one of the optional install
features; that is, it wasn't included in a default Office install.
Try re-running setup on one of the computers and choose Custom rather than
Typical install; see if you can add Org Chart to their setup that way.
If that's not it, please supply more info. Why can't the users use the
feature? Is it that it's not even there on the menu or that they get error
messages when they try to use it or ...?
T
Tommy
sure org chart was included. They have the feature and-----Original Message----- cannot use the
organization chart feature. the feature
specifically?
I'm not positive, but I think that Org Chart was one of the optional install
features; that is, it wasn't included in a default Office install.
Try re-running setup on one of the computers and choose Custom rather than
Typical install; see if you can add Org Chart to their setup that way.
If that's not it, please supply more info. Why can't the users use the
feature? Is it that it's not even there on the menu or that they get error
messages when they try to use it or ...?
--
Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP
PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.com
PPTools: www.pptools.com
.
I have tried to reinstall using the custom setup to make
when they click on insert-add picture-org chart an error
pops up saying powerpoint error press F1 for help - when
you click ok, the system is working for a minute or so,
then comes back with another error.
I can use the org chart feature being the administrator
but my users cannot use it. This is the only feature I
have found that the users cannot use. I have given my
users full control of the Office directory where it is
installed on the hard drive. Does the org chart function
call on another directory that my users will need full
control access over?
Thanks for your help.
S
Steve Rindsberg
I can use the org chart feature being the administrator
but my users cannot use it. This is the only feature I
have found that the users cannot use. I have given my
users full control of the Office directory where it is
installed on the hard drive. Does the org chart function
call on another directory that my users will need full
control access over?
That's the case with MSGraph. I don't know about OrgChart, but if you want a
quick way to find out, visit www.sysinternals.com
They have a bunch of *very* useful free tools, including two that log the files
and registry setting requests that apps make. Start PPT, start the app
logging, try to insert or edit a chart and you should have your answer in
minutes.
J
John Langhans [MSFT]
[CRITICAL UPDATE - Anyone using Office 2003 should install the critical
update as soon as possible. From PowerPoint, choose "Help -> Check for
Updates".]
Hello Tommy,
Most likely you are running into the known limitation of MS Organztion
Chart 2.0
CAUSE
=========
This issue occurs when all the following conditions exist:
- You are using the Microsoft Windows NT or Microsoft Windows 2000
operating system, and your operating system is installed on an NTFS file
system partition.
- The administrator has assigned read-only permissions to the Winnt folder.
- The user trying to launch MS Organization Chart 2.0 does not have
administrative credentials.
The issue occurs because Orgchart.exe tries to create two files in the
Winnt folder, "Msoclip.232" and "Msoprefs.232". If you do not have
read/write permissions to the Winnt folder, Orgchart cannot create these
two files in this location.
WORKAROUND
=================
To work around this problem, note that because the Winnt folder is set to
read-only, an administrator must complete the following steps:
1. Put the Msoprefs.232 and Msoclip.232 files on a server that uses NTFS,
and then assign "Everyone Change" permissions to these two files. In
Windows 2000, assign the Read permission, the Write permission, but not the
Delete permission. Note Make sure to click to clear the "Replace
permissions on Subdirectories" and "Replace the permissions on Existing
Files" check boxes when you set the permissions for the Msoprefs.232 and
Msoclip.232 files. If you do not do so, the permissions for these two files
revert back to their original read-only permissions when the user logs off
or logs on to the server.
2. Use Scopy.exe, which is included with the <Microsoft Windows NT 4.0 or
2000 Resource Kit>, to copy the Msoprefs.232 and Msoclip.232 files to the
Winnt folder, and replace the user's local copies of these files.
Note If you have Windows 2000, use Xcopy.exe instead of Scopy.exe. Windows
2000 includes and installs Xcopy.exe.
John Langhans
Microsoft Corporation
Supportability Program Manager
Microsoft Office PowerPoint for Windows
Microsoft Office Picture Manager for Windows
For FAQ's, highlights and top issues, visit the Microsoft PowerPoint
support center at: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=ppt
Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base at:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbhowto
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
Use of any included script samples are subject to the terms specified at
http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.htm
update as soon as possible. From PowerPoint, choose "Help -> Check for
Updates".]
Hello Tommy,
Most likely you are running into the known limitation of MS Organztion
Chart 2.0
CAUSE
=========
This issue occurs when all the following conditions exist:
- You are using the Microsoft Windows NT or Microsoft Windows 2000
operating system, and your operating system is installed on an NTFS file
system partition.
- The administrator has assigned read-only permissions to the Winnt folder.
- The user trying to launch MS Organization Chart 2.0 does not have
administrative credentials.
The issue occurs because Orgchart.exe tries to create two files in the
Winnt folder, "Msoclip.232" and "Msoprefs.232". If you do not have
read/write permissions to the Winnt folder, Orgchart cannot create these
two files in this location.
WORKAROUND
=================
To work around this problem, note that because the Winnt folder is set to
read-only, an administrator must complete the following steps:
1. Put the Msoprefs.232 and Msoclip.232 files on a server that uses NTFS,
and then assign "Everyone Change" permissions to these two files. In
Windows 2000, assign the Read permission, the Write permission, but not the
Delete permission. Note Make sure to click to clear the "Replace
permissions on Subdirectories" and "Replace the permissions on Existing
Files" check boxes when you set the permissions for the Msoprefs.232 and
Msoclip.232 files. If you do not do so, the permissions for these two files
revert back to their original read-only permissions when the user logs off
or logs on to the server.
2. Use Scopy.exe, which is included with the <Microsoft Windows NT 4.0 or
2000 Resource Kit>, to copy the Msoprefs.232 and Msoclip.232 files to the
Winnt folder, and replace the user's local copies of these files.
Note If you have Windows 2000, use Xcopy.exe instead of Scopy.exe. Windows
2000 includes and installs Xcopy.exe.
John Langhans
Microsoft Corporation
Supportability Program Manager
Microsoft Office PowerPoint for Windows
Microsoft Office Picture Manager for Windows
For FAQ's, highlights and top issues, visit the Microsoft PowerPoint
support center at: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=ppt
Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base at:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbhowto
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
Use of any included script samples are subject to the terms specified at
http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.htm
D
Dr. Indera
hi john,
can the old org chart tool, msoc2.exe be installed and run without having
any version of powerpoint installed?
the reason i'm asking is because i need my students to be able to create an
org chart as part of a project.
thank you.
indera
can the old org chart tool, msoc2.exe be installed and run without having
any version of powerpoint installed?
the reason i'm asking is because i need my students to be able to create an
org chart as part of a project.
thank you.
indera
J
John Langhans [MSFT]
[CRITICAL UPDATE - Anyone using Office 2003 should install the critical
update as soon as possible. From PowerPoint, choose "Help -> Check for
Updates".]
Hello Indera,
|
| can the old org chart tool, msoc2.exe be installed and run without having
| any version of powerpoint installed?
No. The downloadable Microsoft Organization Chart 2.0 package requires that
Office System 2003 or some standalone 2003 product such as PowerPoint 2003
be installed on your system in order for it to be installed.
John Langhans
Microsoft Corporation
Supportability Program Manager
Microsoft Office PowerPoint for Windows
Microsoft Office Picture Manager for Windows
For FAQ's, highlights and top issues, visit the Microsoft PowerPoint
support center at: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=ppt
Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base at:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbhowto
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
Use of any included script samples are subject to the terms specified at
http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.htm
update as soon as possible. From PowerPoint, choose "Help -> Check for
Updates".]
Hello Indera,
|
| can the old org chart tool, msoc2.exe be installed and run without having
| any version of powerpoint installed?
No. The downloadable Microsoft Organization Chart 2.0 package requires that
Office System 2003 or some standalone 2003 product such as PowerPoint 2003
be installed on your system in order for it to be installed.
John Langhans
Microsoft Corporation
Supportability Program Manager
Microsoft Office PowerPoint for Windows
Microsoft Office Picture Manager for Windows
For FAQ's, highlights and top issues, visit the Microsoft PowerPoint
support center at: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=ppt
Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base at:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbhowto
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
Use of any included script samples are subject to the terms specified at
http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.htm
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