Orcas Beta 2 Released (a few days ago)

[Jon Skeet [C# MVP]]

Just in case anyone else hadn't noticed (like me!), Visual Studio 2008
(Orcas) Beta 2 has shipped. The best starting point is probably Scott
Guthrie's blog (which contains download links etc):

http://weblogs.asp.net/scottgu/archive/2007/07/26/vs-2008-and-net-3-5-beta-2-released.aspx

Jon

 

[Mark Rae [MVP]]

Just in case anyone else hadn't noticed (like me!), Visual Studio 2008
(Orcas) Beta 2 has shipped. The best starting point is probably Scott
Guthrie's blog (which contains download links etc):

Superb - thanks!

Slightly surprised at the lack of notification...

 

[Gustaf]

Just in case anyone else hadn't noticed (like me!), Visual Studio 2008
(Orcas) Beta 2 has shipped. The best starting point is probably Scott
Guthrie's blog (which contains download links etc):

I'd like to try it out, but I can't risk messing up my development computer. Does anyone have experience of running the beta side-by-side with VS 2005? Any gotchas there?

Gustaf

 

[Gustaf]

I'd like to try it out, but I can't risk messing up my development
computer. Does anyone have experience of running the beta side-by-side
with VS 2005? Any gotchas there?

I had better read the article first. In the comments, Scott says "Yep - this is perfectly supported. Make sure to run the batch file I listed in my installation notes above to avoid an ASP.NET AJAX side-by-side conflict."

Gustaf

 

[Kevin Spencer]

From my experience with an earlier release, uninstalling Orcas will break
the Cassini web server, unless they fixed that issue in the new beta. The
problem here is that the original is overwritten, and even a reinstall of
VS.Net 2005 will not replace it. I ended up having to download the Cassini 2
code and rebuild it to use the same command-line parameters. So, you might
want to back up the WebDev.WebServer.exe file before installing Orcas.

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Microsoft MVP

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[Marc Gravell]

I'd like to try it out, but I can't risk messing up my development computer.

There are also some VPC images available for download. I'll probably
risk it on my laptop, but keep my desktop clean for now ;-p

Marc

 

[Mark Rae [MVP]]

There are also some VPC images available for download.

That's definitely what I'll be using...

 

[PvdG42]

Just in case anyone else hadn't noticed (like me!), Visual Studio 2008
(Orcas) Beta 2 has shipped. The best starting point is probably Scott
Guthrie's blog (which contains download links etc):

http://weblogs.asp.net/scottgu/archive/2007/07/26/vs-2008-and-net-3-5-beta-2-released.aspx

Jon

Cool! Thanks, Jon. I hadn't heard a thing.

 

[Cowboy \(Gregory A. Beamer\)]

Great reason to use VPC or VMWare.

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Gregory A. Beamer
MVP; MCP: +I, SE, SD, DBA
http://gregorybeamer.spaces.live.com
Co-author: Microsoft Expression Web Bible (upcoming)

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[Cowboy \(Gregory A. Beamer\)]

I will likely use VMWare and set up my own images. With VMWare, I can take
advantage of two procs instead of just one. It runs a bit better this way.
This is esp. true if you are using the TFS install.

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Gregory A. Beamer
MVP; MCP: +I, SE, SD, DBA
http://gregorybeamer.spaces.live.com
Co-author: Microsoft Expression Web Bible (upcoming)

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[Mark Rae [MVP]]

I will likely use VMWare and set up my own images. With VMWare, I can take
advantage of two procs instead of just one. It runs a bit better this way.
This is esp. true if you are using the TFS install.

That's a very good point - hadn't thought of that...

 

[Morten Wennevik [C# MVP]]

I'd like to try it out, but I can't risk messing up my development computer. Does anyone have experience of running the beta side-by-side with VS 2005? Any gotchas there?

Gustaf

I've run vs2003, vs2005 and Orcas side by side on my desktop since beta1 and had absolutely no problems running them together. I can't claim to have been through all the scenarious though, and I have yet to see what happens when I uninstall. According to the installation readme for Orcas beta1, there is a list with quite a few items that apparantly will stop working after uninstalling Orcas beta1, and they seem to indicate a repair of VS2005, and possible repair/reinstallation of one or more versions of .Net will be necessary.

Nothing that worries me though, since I can live with a complete reinstallation of this PC, but I would definitely read the readme of Beta2 before installling it on any critical system (when it completes its 3.2 Gb download in about six hours )

 

[Mark Rae [MVP]]

but I would definitely read the readme of Beta2 before installling it on
any critical system

Surely no-one would install beta software on any critical system...

 

[Morten Wennevik [C# MVP]]

Surely no-one would install beta software on any critical system...

Actually no, you can sometimes get support for Beta2 software used in a production environment. I forgot what the program was called, but I know Sharepoint 2007 Beta2 ran in production with full support. You do need a special program to get the support though.

 

[Mark Rae [MVP]]

You do need a special program to get the support though.

I think this is a little different, though, as (AFAIK) it isn't scheduled
for release until late February 208...

 

[Mark Rae [MVP]]

Or even Feb 2008...

 

[Jon Skeet [C# MVP]]

Or even Feb 2008...

I believe that Feb 2008 is the *launch* - but the release is still
hopefully late 2007. My guess is early December, but that *is* only a
guess.

From
http://blogs.msdn.com/somasegar/archive/2007/07/13/it-all-begins-february-27th.aspx
<quote>
While we will be launching our products together in February, we are
still aiming to release Visual Studio 2008 and .NET FX 3.5 by the end
of this year based on your feedback so far.
</quote>

Personally I'm going to backup my (home) laptop and just go for it.
It'll be a lot simpler to test out than using a VM.

Jon

 

[Mark Rae [MVP]]

Personally I'm going to backup my (home) laptop and just go for it.
It'll be a lot simpler to test out than using a VM.

I'm going to have a go with 64-bit Vista Business on VMWare Workstation 6...

 

[Bob Johnson]

Re: .NET FX 3.5

Is this considered a "major upgrade" to the framework, itself, or is it
mostly marketing terminology for major add-ons, as in .NET 3.0?

Thanks.

-"Bob"

 

[Morten Wennevik [C# MVP]]

Re: .NET FX 3.5

Is this considered a "major upgrade" to the framework, itself, or is it
mostly marketing terminology for major add-ons, as in .NET 3.0?

Thanks.

-"Bob"

..Net 3.5 is the next version of .Net (the previous was 2.0)