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Gary Tait

Lurker@Large@MNGs wrote in
And a question:

The Canon ink cartidges for the MP600R look to be physically similar
to those used in the S4500 (Bce series). Are they backwards
compatible? i.e. Can the MP600R cartidges be used in the S4500?
Although they are fundamentally identical, I believe they are just
different enough you cannot put a CL/PG cartridge in place if and older BC
cartridge.
I believe the pixma cartidges are "chipped" . If so can they be
"reset"?
Not yet, but you can tell the printer to ignore "empty" chips and ink
monitoring, with all risks of having no ink monitoring.
 
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Lurker@Large@MNGs

Hi Everyone.

Thanks for an entertaining (and enlightening) ng.

I'm about to replace a canon S4500 printer. Have gotten the choices
down to Canon's MP600R and HPs C7180. I have a yen to get the printer
networked.

I'm leaning towards the MP600R since it's lower in price where I am
and also will print CD/DVD blanks. I'm not overly concerned about the
HP's fax capability.

If you have used either equipment I'll be grateful for your
experience.

And a question:

The Canon ink cartidges for the MP600R look to be physically similar
to those used in the S4500 (Bce series). Are they backwards
compatible? i.e. Can the MP600R cartidges be used in the S4500?

I believe the pixma cartidges are "chipped" . If so can they be
"reset"?

Thanks for any feedback.

Cheers.

LaL
 
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Stick Stickus

Cartridge World UK shops ARE able to supply refilled cartridges that have
had the chip reset.
regards
Stick
 
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Lurker@Large@MNGs

Lurker@Large@MNGs wrote in

Although they are fundamentally identical, I believe they are just
different enough you cannot put a CL/PG cartridge in place if and older BC
cartridge.


Not yet, but you can tell the printer to ignore "empty" chips and ink
monitoring, with all risks of having no ink monitoring.

Hi Gary,

Many thanks for this.

I'm likely to acquire an MP600R in the next couple of days, based on
this feedback, together with the CD printing capability that the
printer has..

Regards

LaL
 
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Lurker@Large@MNGs

Cartridge World UK shops ARE able to supply refilled cartridges that have
had the chip reset.
regards
Stick
Thanks Stick,

But now I'm confused. Gary suggests the cartidges are not chipped, but
you are suggesting they are.
In any event, where I live would make freight cost very high and
purchasing "proper" cartidges would be cheaper, I suspect.

Another contributor will be really pleased about that!

Regards,

LaL
 
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andmalc

Hi Everyone.

Thanks for an entertaining (and enlightening) ng.

I'm about to replace a canon S4500 printer. Have gotten the choices
down to Canon's MP600R and HPs C7180. I have a yen to get the printer
networked.

I'm leaning towards the MP600R since it's lower in price where I am
and also will print CD/DVD blanks. I'm not overly concerned about the
HP's fax capability.

If you have used either equipment I'll be grateful for your
experience.
Don't know anything about the Canon.

All the HP 6-ink system printers are mechanically reliable and
efficient - the black cartridge is rated for 660 pages, the colour
ones for around 400.

If you don't need the fax, or slide/negative scanning features of the
C7180, consider the C5180 which has Ethernet (i.e. wired networking,
not also wireless as is the C6180 and the C7180) but is cheaper.
 
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Jerry1111

andmalc said:
Don't know anything about the Canon.

All the HP 6-ink system printers are mechanically reliable and
efficient - the black cartridge is rated for 660 pages, the colour
ones for around 400.

If you don't need the fax, or slide/negative scanning features of the
C7180, consider the C5180 which has Ethernet (i.e. wired networking,
not also wireless as is the C6180 and the C7180) but is cheaper.
I can recommend C5180 - excellent printer! Not a single problem (well,
scanning over ethernet is a bit slow - so mine is connected via a
constantly-on PC). And drivers are just ENORMOUS. Everything else is super.

Any data how does it like refills? Any known problems with printhead?
 
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Lurker@Large@MNGs

Lurker@Large@MNGs wrote in

Although they are fundamentally identical, I believe they are just
different enough you cannot put a CL/PG cartridge in place if and older BC
cartridge.


Not yet, but you can tell the printer to ignore "empty" chips and ink
monitoring, with all risks of having no ink monitoring.
Hi again Gary,

Just re-read your reply.

I think I misinterpreted your comment re "chipping" and thought you
were indicating they were not "chipped" but gave low ink indications
which you could ignore. Now I think that what you are saying is that
the cartidges are "chipped" but you can "force" the printer to
over-ride the "out of ink" messages.

Correct?

Thanks again for the feedback.

LaL
 
L

Lurker@Large@MNGs

I can recommend C5180 - excellent printer! Not a single problem (well,
scanning over ethernet is a bit slow - so mine is connected via a
constantly-on PC). And drivers are just ENORMOUS. Everything else is super.

Any data how does it like refills? Any known problems with printhead?
Thanks for this.

LaL
 
G

Gary Tait

Lurker@Large@MNGs wrote in
Hi again Gary,

Just re-read your reply.

I think I misinterpreted your comment re "chipping" and thought you
were indicating they were not "chipped" but gave low ink indications
which you could ignore. Now I think that what you are saying is that
the cartidges are "chipped" but you can "force" the printer to
over-ride the "out of ink" messages.

Correct?

Thanks again for the feedback.

LaL
Yes, the recent Canon carts are chipped, and the way to get around that is
to tell the printer to ignore ink monitoring.
 
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measekite

Gary Tait wrote:

Lurker@Large@MNGs wrote in news:vk4u63d39m2ionfcg653fqq5lr0180d3em@4ax.com:



Hi again Gary, Just re-read your reply. I think I misinterpreted your comment re "chipping" and thought you were indicating they were not "chipped" but gave low ink indications which you could ignore. Now I think that what you are saying is that the cartidges are "chipped" but you can "force" the printer to over-ride the "out of ink" messages. Correct? Thanks again for the feedback. LaL



Yes, the recent Canon carts are chipped, and the way to get around that is to tell the printer to ignore ink monitoring.


The only real way to get around it is to purchase new Canon ink carts.  Then I think it would work fine.
 
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