Opening bkf files in Vista

S

Shane

Hi,
I'm new to this Discussion group scene so I apologise if I have posted this
in the wrong place.

I was just wondering if it is possible to "open" a Windows XP bkf file in
Vista?
I have recently moved over to a new PC and backed up all my previous PC.
But when I go to open it it doesn't recognise the file ending.

Any suggestions or ideas of where I could look?

Rgds,
Shane
 
G

Gordon

Shane said:
Hi,
I'm new to this Discussion group scene so I apologise if I have posted
this
in the wrong place.

I was just wondering if it is possible to "open" a Windows XP bkf file in
Vista?
I have recently moved over to a new PC and backed up all my previous PC.
But when I go to open it it doesn't recognise the file ending.

Any suggestions or ideas of where I could look?
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This is just ANOTHER example of MS not doing ANY joined-up thinking AT ALL.
The same thing happened with the backup utility in Windows 98 - the files
couldn't be read by the XP backup utility, and now the backup files created
in XP can't be read by Vista.
I'm afraid, AFAIK, that your only course of action is to find an XP machine,
restore the data and use some other method of transferring it.
 
M

Mark L. Ferguson

You can restore a backup created on a previous version of Windows (the
backup file will have a .bkf file name extension) by using Windows NT Backup
Restore Utility. For more information on system requirements and how to
download and run this program, go to the Microsoft Windows NT Backup Restore
Utility website.
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...e2-8b69-4c65-afa3-2a53107d54a7&displaylang=en
To run Windows NT Backup Restore Utility, you need to turn on Removable
Storage Management.
To turn on Removable Storage Management
Open "Programs and Features" in Control Panel.
In the left pane, click Turn Windows features on or off. If you are
prompted for an administrator password or confirmation, type the password or
provide confirmation.
Select the check box next to Removable Storage Management to turn the
feature on, and then click OK.
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R

Ramesh, MS-MVP

Windows Vista Help: Restore a backup created on a previous version of Windows:
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/help/0065e938-1191-4c1a-96db-d21fdc8ca1ab1033.mspx

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Hi,
I'm new to this Discussion group scene so I apologise if I have posted this
in the wrong place.

I was just wondering if it is possible to "open" a Windows XP bkf file in
Vista?
I have recently moved over to a new PC and backed up all my previous PC.
But when I go to open it it doesn't recognise the file ending.

Any suggestions or ideas of where I could look?

Rgds,
Shane
 
G

Gordon

Mark L. Ferguson said:
You can restore a backup created on a previous version of Windows (the
backup file will have a .bkf file name extension) by using Windows NT
Backup Restore Utility. For more information on system requirements and
how to download and run this program, go to the Microsoft Windows NT
Backup Restore Utility website.
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...e2-8b69-4c65-afa3-2a53107d54a7&displaylang=en
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That's all very well, but WHY did MS make ALL their included backup
utilities incompatible with each other? Why should someone NEED to download
another utility just to restore backups made with MS Backup utilities?
 
S

Synapse Syndrome

Gordon said:
That's all very well, but WHY did MS make ALL their included backup
utilities incompatible with each other? Why should someone NEED to
download another utility just to restore backups made with MS Backup
utilities?
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The new 'vhd file format is better, as you can also mount them in virtual
machines and use them as hard drives.

ss.
 
C

C.B.

Gordon said:
That's all very well, but WHY did MS make ALL their included backup
utilities incompatible with each other? Why should someone NEED to
download another utility just to restore backups made with MS Backup
utilities?
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If Microsoft made all their new and/or advanced software backwards
compatible with previous Microsoft software and third party software the OS
would be so bloated and complicated nobody would want to use it.
Vista is already bloated. Why make it more so? I certainly wouldn't
want an OS that crashed constantly due to conflicts caused by the complexity
of the OS itself.
The solution is simple. Download the utility you need.

C.B.
 
G

Gordon

C.B. said:
If Microsoft made all their new and/or advanced software backwards
compatible with previous Microsoft software and third party software the
OS would be so bloated and complicated nobody would want to use it.
Vista is already bloated. Why make it more so? I certainly wouldn't
want an OS that crashed constantly due to conflicts caused by the
complexity of the OS itself.
The solution is simple. Download the utility you need.
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Sorry, that's utter rubbish. Office 2007 will open files created in ALL the
previous versions.
You don't have to download a utility to enable Word 2007 to open Word 95
files.
Surely SOMEONE at MS should have realised that many people, when prompted to
upgrade to the next version of Windows, were going to use the in-built
backup utility to backup their data before upgrading?
It's nothing to do with bloat, and ALL to do with total un-joined up
thinking and complete lack of common sense and planning.
Which is one reason I don't touch the in-built MS backup functions with a
barge pole.
 
N

Nonny

If Microsoft made all their new and/or advanced software backwards
compatible with previous Microsoft software and third party software the OS
would be so bloated and complicated nobody would want to use it.
Vista is already bloated. Why make it more so? I certainly wouldn't
want an OS that crashed constantly due to conflicts caused by the complexity
of the OS itself.
The solution is simple. Download the utility you need.
Click to expand...

Well put.
 
N

Nonny

Surely SOMEONE at MS should have realised that many people, when prompted to
upgrade to the next version of Windows, were going to use the in-built
backup utility to backup their data before upgrading?
It's nothing to do with bloat, and ALL to do with total un-joined up
thinking and complete lack of common sense and planning.
Which is one reason I don't touch the in-built MS backup functions with a
barge pole.
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General opinion is that the built-in backup function just plain
sucks anyway. Heck, most folks don't even KNOW about it, and if
they do, they don't know where to find it and/or how to install
it.
 
K

Ken Blake, MVP

General opinion is that the built-in backup function just plain
sucks anyway.
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I think that's far too strong a statement. Yes, there are lots better
products on the market, and I recommend using one like Acronis True
Image instead.

On the other hand, Windows backup *does* work, and it's far better
than nothing.
 
G

Gordon

SG said:
Gordon,

You don't use it, but yet you complain?
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I don't use it for the very reason stated - that files made with XP backup
can't be read by Vista backup, and I bet that Windows 7 won't read backups
made in Vista.
Furthermore if MS did integrated it in Visa for backward compatibility
like Office as you stated, it's most likely it would require far more code
than any 3rd. party app out there that does the job.
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Absolute rubbish. Why not just use ONE backup program and incorporate the
same utility in subsequent versions of Windows? Like Notepad for example.
That's been in all versions of Windows and still is today. It's just an
example of MS not thinking.
 
G

Gordon

Nonny said:
Well put.
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No it's not - it's rubbish. Microsoft HAVE used the same utility right
across all Windows versions - notepad. So why can't they do that with a
simple backup utility? It's not rocket science...
 
S

SG

Well I value your opinion, so I won't say your reply is rubbish. Have you
ever written any code in any language Gordon?. It's easy to criticize, but
until you truly know what goes into writing any program I wouldn't be so
quick judge MS or any other software writer. I'm sorry, but using Notepad as
your example is very poor. There's very few files required to run Notepad
compared to MS Backup. I see in another reply you say it's not rocket
science, so why not write your own program. Who knows it may be a huge hit
and you can retire at a young age :>) anyway you can have the last word as
I'm moving on.

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All the best,
SG

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G

GorkusPuss

What is the difference between a program that opens 'raw' (as in unformatted) text (OK you
can set fonts and styles), and an all encompassing (or simple) back up utility?

The hint is in previous posts, it's in the code. I don't know the how and why to explain
your question, but from my experience, no matter how well your program code is constructed,
how good the object design, or component design is in terms of flexibility or maintenance,
you will come to a version that is not always completely backward compatible. That is when
bigger than small changes to huge changes may be required.

I think it wasn't purposely done to annoy their customers. There are simple solutions that
have been posted to suggest this.

- GorkusPuss
 
X

xfile

From the perspective of the user and customer, no one cares about the
details and complexity of the solution. If it works, it works or it's a
garbage.

We have a term called "professional" who get paid to get things done and if
it's out of one's capacity, one can either quit or stop selling the products
or services.

Yes, not everyone can be a competent engineer or professional, and it's a
job only for those who can undertake challenges not just can play cheap lip
services.
 

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