Old HD in New computer

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John Johnson

I posted a couple times on ghost and my power supply yesterday
.. Worse led to worse and there was a short and the MB got fired.

Was going to build a new one but instead just ordered a new computer
put together but not that much difference.

I wonder if there is a way I can use my old HD as the main drive.

Both computers at MSI MBs, one about 11/2 years old with a 2ghz chip.
This one a new MSI MB with a 3ghz chip

WP Pro on the old drive with all the updates before SP2

Obviously I didn't get a chance to delete any of the drivers on the
old drives.

I know if I try Windows will complain but is there anyway I can get
around it? Hate to have to reinstall everything.
 
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John Mann

I posted a couple times on ghost and my power supply yesterday
. Worse led to worse and there was a short and the MB got fired.

Was going to build a new one but instead just ordered a new computer
put together but not that much difference.

I wonder if there is a way I can use my old HD as the main drive.

Both computers at MSI MBs, one about 11/2 years old with a 2ghz chip.
This one a new MSI MB with a 3ghz chip

WP Pro on the old drive with all the updates before SP2

Obviously I didn't get a chance to delete any of the drivers on the
old drives.

I know if I try Windows will complain but is there anyway I can get
around it? Hate to have to reinstall everything.

Good question. I have yet to figure out exactly when XP will refuse a
modification. I was able to ghost my old system drive and transfer it
from one Compaq Deskpro to another model from a couple of years later;
XP allowed the change; I'm thinking because it was the same sort of
"hardware commanality" between Deskpros, even though they were not
identical.

It will be interesting to see if I can drop the drive into an entirely
new non-Compaq system in a few months time. A friend of mine went
through this, and didn't have any problems; XP install started on
original box; then he swapped out the box but not the drive XP was on;
then in the *new* box (with the old drive), he ghosted to a new drive.
Then took out the old drive and replaced it with the new ghosted
drive. XP never said a word. He thinks if he had done it all at
*once* though (ghosting to new drive, then taking new drive and
setting it in new box), *that* might have been a problem.

One thing, as I'm sure you know; before imaging the drive, defrag it.
When you image it, image the *entire* drive, not just it's system
partition; I did that the first time around and got a Windows
Activation Error. Went back and redid it, imaging the entire drive;
no errors but for finding new stuff on the motherboard and installing
it, then rebooting just fine.

I think in your situation, it might be ok; it seems to me that if XP
can recognize one component, it will allow the change. The component
in this case will be the old hard drive in a new box. Then once in
the new box which XP is now familiar with, if you ghost and change the
drive, the components XP will "remember" will be the new box
components; it will not "remember" the new drive it's on, but will
accept the change because everything else is within it's parameters.

Or some such shit. When it comes to this, I *really* miss Windows 98.

The Windows Activation Thingy (technical term) is located on the hdd
somewhere; you can back it up and transfer it, so I've heard. I
haven't investigated because I don't need to know right now (hence
don't want to bother myself with researching google at the moment).
When the time comes, I'll either do that, or just go through the
hassle of reverting back to Windows 2000 Pro and telling XP's
activation schemata to go **** itself.

___________________________________________________

"Black shirted boys in the badlands
play machine-gun rodeo;
the downtown mission's packed too tight,
with folks that got nowhere to go."

--- David Baerwald, "River's Gonna Rise", 1986
 
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David Maynard

John said:
I posted a couple times on ghost and my power supply yesterday
. Worse led to worse and there was a short and the MB got fired.

Was going to build a new one but instead just ordered a new computer
put together but not that much difference.

I wonder if there is a way I can use my old HD as the main drive.

Both computers at MSI MBs, one about 11/2 years old with a 2ghz chip.
This one a new MSI MB with a 3ghz chip

WP Pro on the old drive with all the updates before SP2

Obviously I didn't get a chance to delete any of the drivers on the
old drives.

I know if I try Windows will complain but is there anyway I can get
around it? Hate to have to reinstall everything.

You do a 'repair' install. Boot the CD, say no to the first set of repair
options (recovery disk, recovery console) and go on as if doing a fresh
install. It will then detect an existing XP installation and ask if you
want to repair it. Say yes to doing a repair (if it doesn't ask to REPAIR
then you've got a problem and going on will wipe out the existing
installation).

It will copy the setup files and reinstall windows, detecting and setting
up your (new) hardware, as if doing an 'upgrade'. I.E. keeping all your
programs and settings.

Since it's a reinstall from the CD, however, you lose your Windows updates
and service packs, including those for I.E. and media player, so you'll
need to redo those as well.

Note, if your CD is the original issue, pre-SP1, XP CD then it will appear
as if a lot of programs are 'broken' after the repair and they'll complain
about needing to be installed. Ignore that. They're just confused because
SP1 is missing and once you reinstall SP1 they'll automagically work again.
 
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John Johnson

You do a 'repair' install. Boot the CD, say no to the first set of repair
options (recovery disk, recovery console) and go on as if doing a fresh
install. It will then detect an existing XP installation and ask if you
want to repair it. Say yes to doing a repair (if it doesn't ask to REPAIR
then you've got a problem and going on will wipe out the existing
installation).

It will copy the setup files and reinstall windows, detecting and setting
up your (new) hardware, as if doing an 'upgrade'. I.E. keeping all your
programs and settings.

Since it's a reinstall from the CD, however, you lose your Windows updates
and service packs, including those for I.E. and media player, so you'll
need to redo those as well.

Note, if your CD is the original issue, pre-SP1, XP CD then it will appear
as if a lot of programs are 'broken' after the repair and they'll complain
about needing to be installed. Ignore that. They're just confused because
SP1 is missing and once you reinstall SP1 they'll automagically work again.

Thanks. Can you use a different copy of WinXP or do you have to use
the exact disc that the drive has? I seem to remember a problem like
that.
 
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David Maynard

John said:
Thanks. Can you use a different copy of WinXP or do you have to use
the exact disc that the drive has? I seem to remember a problem like
that.

Depends on what you mean by 'a different copy'. If you mean simply a
different CD of the exact same thing then no, it shouldn't make any difference.

If you mean a different 'flavor' of XP, like trying to use an XP Pro CD to
repair an XP Home Edition installation, then I really don't know as it
never occurred to me to try doing something like that. But I suspect it
would complain it's not the right one, or simply not find one to repair.
(One might imagine a Pro CD would simply 'upgrade' a Home installation but
it knows this is a 'repair' operation and might not allow it.)
 
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DaveW

If you do NOT do a fesh install of the OS you can look forward to ongoing
nasty Registry errors.
 
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David Maynard

DaveW said:
If you do NOT do a fesh install of the OS you can look forward to ongoing
nasty Registry errors.

False, as you've been told over and over again.

Is your head made of lead so that nothing gets in or is it full of holes so
that everything falls back out?
 
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John Johnson

Following procedure posting on another list it seemed to work find.
Have had to install a couple of things but other than that so far, its
good.
 
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David Maynard

John said:
Following procedure posting on another list it seemed to work find.
Have had to install a couple of things but other than that so far, its
good.

It'll be fine as long as you bring it back to the same update level it was
before the repair install because already installed programs expect the
updates it had.

But then you'd be doing that anyway with a fresh install too. The
difference being you haven't lost your programs and settings with a repair.
 

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