ok, let's clear this up MS - is Product Activation really restricted?

[kurttrail]

I don't believe you, I've seem you copy Kurt's positions, so you must
be able to press/click a mouse, that's all it takes.

LOL! Why? Did he get the age of your son wrong like you did?

I've tried many distros this year, and none will install on my PC. On
other PCs in my home, it will install but become a nightmare to
optimizing the video card, or getting the sound card running. Almost
every computer that I have managed to install Linux on has some sort of
compatibility problem, and I'm smarter than the average bear, when it
comes to PCs. Most of the average users I know wouldn't use the
computer if challenged as much by an OS.

If you tried you would have succeeded, it's quite simple on everything
from simple P3's to Dual Xeon machines in my own testing.

Yeah, I can probably strip out all my hardware cards and run the
on-board intel video chip set, and get linux install. By WHY WOULD I
WANT TO USE MY COMPUTER AFTER DOING THAT? Why would I want to give up
my digital sound system? Why would I want to give up my HDTV? Why
would I want to give up playing my games on my x800 xl? Why would I
want to slow down my harddrive access speed by disabling my RAID setup?
WHY? Why would I want to spend more money buying hardware to get me
back SOME but NOT ALL of that? WHY?!!!!!

Just so I can say I lobotomized my computer system to run Linux?

Linux still has a ways to go, and if you can't admit that, then that
shows where you are really coming from. DelusionLand!

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[kurttrail]

Actually, it was a small Optiplex that had been running Windows XP
SP1, single HD, CDRW, ATI Video, and 256MB RAM. The drive was new,
unformatted, and I installed the drive hardware and gave him the
machine.....

A motherboard with a processor, an old ATI card or onboard chipset, and
a CDRW. LOL!

And it would have worked as easily for those people you mention, it
was so simple that anyone able to post in this group could do it.

Really, was it set up to boot to CD by default, because if it wasn't
most people I know wouldn't know how to set up their computer to boot to
CD.

And most of the average users I know can't setup their email without
help, and wouldn't know how to access the USENET if their kids life
depended on it!

And don't even try to lie that the CDO losers could do it!

If you put two non-technical users, with no Windows/Linus experience
in front of identical hardware systems, running each OS, they would
not have any more problem with the Linux box than with the Windows
box.

Ah! You have to go to the third world to find people like that. Most
in the US that can afford a computer have had one for a few years now,
and expect to do thing the Windows way. You throw linux at such a user,
they wouldn't know how to navigate their harddrive to find their files.

Careful, if we agree on to many things (like the chain store item),
people might get the idea that we're really room-mates

I doubt it.

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[Leythos]

LOL! Why? Did he get the age of your son wrong like you did?

I've tried many distros this year, and none will install on my PC. On
other PCs in my home, it will install but become a nightmare to
optimizing the video card, or getting the sound card running. Almost
every computer that I have managed to install Linux on has some sort of
compatibility problem, and I'm smarter than the average bear, when it
comes to PCs. Most of the average users I know wouldn't use the
computer if challenged as much by an OS.

And that would make your case one of the lessening minority in the Linux
world - it's getting better, but I did say that hardware drivers was the
one area where MS wins hands down.

Yeah, I can probably strip out all my hardware cards and run the
on-board intel video chip set, and get linux install. By WHY WOULD I
WANT TO USE MY COMPUTER AFTER DOING THAT? Why would I want to give up
my digital sound system? Why would I want to give up my HDTV? Why
would I want to give up playing my games on my x800 xl? Why would I
want to slow down my harddrive access speed by disabling my RAID setup?
WHY? Why would I want to spend more money buying hardware to get me
back SOME but NOT ALL of that? WHY?!!!!!

I can count the number of people that have HDTV and true multimedia
systems that I know on one hand, the rest just have good sound cards and
good video cards. For the vast majority of typical Windows users (and
HDTV is not typical), it would work just fine. Oh, RAID us supported on
most linux platforms, but there are cheap RAID chipsets/controllers that
have not been coded for.

Just so I can say I lobotomized my computer system to run Linux?

No, you're computer is not typical for most home users, so you would not
be a good fit, but, for the vast majority of the ignorant masses, linux
would be just fine from a fresh install.

Linux still has a ways to go, and if you can't admit that, then that
shows where you are really coming from. DelusionLand!

I'm not the one that can't setup a simple computer and I'm not the one
that thinks a HDTV setup makes their computer typical of the home users
systems in the majority of installed base.

I think that Linux has a large way to go when it comes to drivers, but
that's the only area that is currently suffering right now - the
interface and apps are fine for anyone that gets past the driver issues.

 

[Leythos]

A motherboard with a processor, an old ATI card or onboard chipset, and
a CDRW. LOL!

Poor assumption, but that's your choice.

Really, was it set up to boot to CD by default, because if it wasn't
most people I know wouldn't know how to set up their computer to boot to
CD.

Yes, it was setup, by default, to boot to CD. Every machine I've
purchased in the last 3 years comes set to boot to CD if present.

And most of the average users I know can't setup their email without
help, and wouldn't know how to access the USENET if their kids life
depended on it!

He has the same information that any other internet user would have -
email address, pop/smtp server names, password... fairly easy, even for
people that don't know what pop means.

And don't even try to lie that the CDO losers could do it!


Ah! You have to go to the third world to find people like that. Most
in the US that can afford a computer have had one for a few years now,
and expect to do thing the Windows way. You throw linux at such a user,
they wouldn't know how to navigate their harddrive to find their files.

Nopw, I know people that have had computers for more than 5 years that
don't have a clue about using them - email, web, print from MS Works....
Many of them use Web based email since they don't know what Outlook
Express is or how to set it up. Right here in the USA, tons of people
like that.

I doubt it.

Well, at least we agree that your machine is not typical of a home users
machine.

 

[kurttrail]

And that would make your case one of the lessening minority in the
Linux world - it's getting better, but I did say that hardware
drivers was the one area where MS wins hands down.

And yet you don't believe Alias may have a computer that Linux won't
install on!

And it is in the hardware support that people would give up on Linux if
they tried. Right now Linux is not ready for prime time for those
already using windows, they are bound to be disappointed and go back to
windows, and may never try linux again. And that is why I don't
advocate that people try linux YET. One day soon it will be ready for
the MASSES, it ain't there yet.

I can count the number of people that have HDTV and true multimedia
systems that I know on one hand, the rest just have good sound cards
and good video cards.

Again people have all kinds of different hardware setups, and ANY
hardware problem becomes a total nightmare for the average user! By
saying that Linux is ready for the average user you are setting MOST of
them to have a bad linux experience from which they may never try again.

For the vast majority of typical Windows users
(and HDTV is not typical), it would work just fine. Oh, RAID us
supported on most linux platforms, but there are cheap RAID
chipsets/controllers that have not been coded for.


No, you're computer is not typical for most home users, so you would
not be a good fit, but, for the vast majority of the ignorant masses,
linux would be just fine from a fresh install.

LOL! NO! Most of them couldn't install WINDOWS let alone LINUX!

Are you effin' insane?!

(Don't bother answering, it is a rhetorical question, that we all know
the answer to! YOU ARE EFFIN' INSANE!)

I'm not the one that can't setup a simple computer and I'm not the one
that thinks a HDTV setup makes their computer typical of the home
users systems in the majority of installed base.

I think that Linux has a large way to go when it comes to drivers, but
that's the only area that is currently suffering right now - the
interface and apps are fine for anyone that gets past the driver
issues.

I now suspect you are trying to get many people to try Linux just so
they will become disillusioned by Linux to the point that they will
never try it again!

You are so full of sh*t, that I am totally effin' amazed that someone
can hold so much sh*t in one body! Linux is NOT ready for most of the
masses, that CANNOT install and setup any OS including WINDOWS!

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[Leythos]

I now suspect you are trying to get many people to try Linux just so
they will become disillusioned by Linux to the point that they will
never try it again!

You're funny some times, and this is one of them. I've seen noobs using
/ installing Linux and you don't seem to believe it since you couldn't
do it (or Alias wither). I've seen people that could not install either
Windows or Linux also, never seen anyone that could not install Linux
that could install Windows.

You are so full of sh*t, that I am totally effin' amazed that someone
can hold so much sh*t in one body! Linux is NOT ready for most of the
masses, that CANNOT install and setup any OS including WINDOWS!

I think your so set in one mind set that you just can't work any other
way or even imagine anything other than what your limited experience
lets you comprehend - many people that are not mind-set locked have no
problems with either OS.

 

[kurttrail]

Poor assumption, but that's your choice.

I notice you didn't tell us what kind of ATI video. Be a little more
specific, but it sure sounds like a barebones system to me.

Yes, it was setup, by default, to boot to CD. Every machine I've
purchased in the last 3 years comes set to boot to CD if present.

And MOST of the people I know have computers AT least that old.

He has the same information that any other internet user would have -
email address, pop/smtp server names, password... fairly easy, even
for people that don't know what pop means.

LOL! Your fictitious kid is much more knowledgable that the average
slubs I know.

Nopw, I know people that have had computers for more than 5 years that
don't have a clue about using them - email, web, print from MS
Works.... Many of them use Web based email since they don't know what
Outlook Express is or how to set it up. Right here in the USA, tons
of people like that.

"If you put two non-technical users, with no Windows/Linus experience" -
Douchethos

"Ah! You have to go to the third world to find people like that." -
kurttrail

"Nopw, I know people that have had computers for more than 5 years that
don't have a clue about using them" - Douchethos

If they have five years of experience on windows, then they aren't
"non-technical users, with no Windows/Linus experience"

Well, at least we agree that your machine is not typical of a home
users machine.

I don't know how you got that from my reply.

But nearly everybody has an atypical machine. That is the biggest part
of the problem! The is no such thing as a typical machine!

And most people can't install any OS at all. And You want to start them
off by installing Linux! You are totally INSANE! Most people would be
lucky to start and complete a Windows Upgrade from within Windows! Most
could not do a Clean install of windows, and definitely not Linux!

Saying that the average user could do a clean install of ANY OS is just
showing how out of touch with reality you really are!

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[kurttrail]

You're funny some times, and this is one of them. I've seen noobs
using / installing Linux and you don't seem to believe it since you
couldn't do it (or Alias wither). I've seen people that could not
install either Windows or Linux also, never seen anyone that could
not install Linux that could install Windows.

LOL! And they are all your fictitious son! Dude. By definition, a
noob couldn't install any OS. If you seen otherwise, then they were
getting a major amount of help from someone that knew what they were
doing.

And I have install Linux on other computers, it is just my experience
that almost every install has had some compatiblity problem that a NOOB
couldn' not figure out how to fix on their own!

I think your so set in one mind set that you just can't work any other
way or even imagine anything other than what your limited experience
lets you comprehend - many people that are not mind-set locked have no
problems with either OS.

Blow me, Douchethos. You are insane. The average computer user of
today is not ready to do a clean install of any OS on their own. And
you just demonstrate how full of SH*T you are by saying that they can.

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[Leythos]

[snip the part that doesn't really need a reply based on the below]

Saying that the average user could do a clean install of ANY OS is just
showing how out of touch with reality you really are!

And assuming that everyone is really like you imagine they are, since
you don't have real-world, daily contact, with noobs and the like, is
really showing how little you know about reality.

 

[Leythos]

Blow me, Douchethos. You are insane. The average computer user of
today is not ready to do a clean install of any OS on their own. And
you just demonstrate how full of SH*T you are by saying that they can.

Seems to me that you already resort to being foul when you get boxed
into a corner. Even my mother-inlaw, the lady that inserted a 5.25"
Floppy into her very old 286 in those days, was able to install FC3
without any help on her Dell 2400 series computer - the only help she
got was me installing a new (out of the retail box) hard drive so that
she would not have to use her current drive for the test.

Face it, people, even simple ones, can install Linux and you're just
sore that you couldn't! Heck, you would have the same trouble with
Windows if Alias didn't show you how to install it.

 

[kurttrail]

[snip the part that doesn't really need a reply based on the below]

Saying that the average user could do a clean install of ANY OS is
just showing how out of touch with reality you really are!

And assuming that everyone is really like you imagine they are, since
you don't have real-world, daily contact, with noobs and the like, is
really showing how little you know about reality.

LOL! I have plenty of real-world contact with noobs. I wish I had a
hell of a lot less contact with them, but there are so many of them.

And if they can install ANY OS and set it up properly, then they are not
really noobs.

A noob in real life would be someone that can't tie their own shoes. In
the virtual world, a noob is someone that is damned lucky to
consistently hit to right button to just to turn on the PC, let alone be
able to install and setup an OS successfully.

Most of the average users I know wouldn't know how to begin to upgrade
an OS, let alone, do a clean install of an OS. So I would suggest it is
you that is over-blowing the computer competence of the average computer
user.


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[kurttrail]

Seems to me that you already resort to being foul when you get boxed
into a corner.

LOL! No, I start to curse with the totally dense and delusional.
Anyone capable of a rational discussion, emphasis on RATIONAL, I only
curse when joking around. I am trying to beat the round peg of reason
into your thick square-holed skull of yours with a sledge hammer,
because it is quite obvious that you are totally beyond all reason!

Even my mother-inlaw, the lady that inserted a 5.25"
Floppy into her very old 286 in those days, was able to install FC3
without any help on her Dell 2400 series computer - the only help she
got was me installing a new (out of the retail box) hard drive so that
she would not have to use her current drive for the test.

Now your fictitious son is an old lady! The average user wouldn't know
what a 5.25" floppy or a 286 is! If she was using a computer over a
dozen years ago, then she is NOT the average user, Douchethos!

And this just clearly demonstrates you have NO F*&KING IDEA WHAT AN
AVERAGE COMPUTER USER IS!

Face it, people, even simple ones, can install Linux and you're just
sore that you couldn't! Heck, you would have the same trouble with
Windows if Alias didn't show you how to install it.

Face it, Douchethos, you are totally out of your effin' gord! And you
clearly have demonstrated it! A woman that has been using a computer
since the 286 days is anexample of an average computer user! Totally
out of your mind, Douchthos!

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[Stephen]

I very much agree with that statement.

 

[Alias]

I don't believe you, I've seem you copy Kurt's positions, so you must be
able to press/click a mouse, that's all it takes.

You don't believe me? You're calling me a liar?

If you tried you would have succeeded, it's quite simple on everything
from simple P3's to Dual Xeon machines in my own testing.

For you, maybe, but not everyone is as clever, tech savvy and smart as you
are.

Alias

 

[NoStop]

Seems to me that you already resort to being foul when you get boxed
into a corner. Even my mother-inlaw, the lady that inserted a 5.25"
Floppy into her very old 286 in those days, was able to install FC3
without any help on her Dell 2400 series computer - the only help she
got was me installing a new (out of the retail box) hard drive so that
she would not have to use her current drive for the test.

Face it, people, even simple ones, can install Linux and you're just
sore that you couldn't! Heck, you would have the same trouble with
Windows if Alias didn't show you how to install it.

Kurt is just the biggest bullshitter around here. He's trying - although
already having told us something different - to tell you he's tried
installing Linux on his home theatre computer. What he tried to do was get
a LIVE CD distro of Linux running on this home theatre box.

As you said Leythos, for the MAJORITY of computer users today, the newest
distros of Linux are a no-brainer to install. They are even easier to
install on a new blank hard drive than is XP. For one thing, all the device
drivers are typically loaded during the OS installation and not after, like
is the case with XP, where the user then has to go out and visit hardware
websites and download the drivers.

The real plus of course, is that once installed, Linux just works. None of
this silliness we see around this ng all the time about malware bringing
down the system or lost USB functionality, or corrupted registries, etc.,
etc., etc. that can make running XP a total horror show when it starts to
fall apart.

 

[Leythos]

Now your fictitious son is an old lady! The average user wouldn't know
what a 5.25" floppy or a 286 is! If she was using a computer over a
dozen years ago, then she is NOT the average user, Douchethos!

Just goes again to show how little you understand. A user that's old
enough and has experience with a 286 could still easily be a complete
noob with a computer - especially when it comes to installing an OS.
Using Word/Outlook and IE (now FireFox) does not make one knowledgeable
about how computers work or how to install an OS. You seem to be the one
that's delusional.

It's nice to see you resorting to being abusive again - Old Lady/Son,
what part did you miss about two tests? So, when you can't reply with
any real content that's on track, or when you get backed into a corner
were you are showing your incompetence, you resort to being abusive.

Heck, I know people that were using 586's that have never used a Floppy
disk and don't know they have write protect tabs on them.

 

[Leythos]

Kurt is just the biggest bullshitter around here. He's trying - although
already having told us something different - to tell you he's tried
installing Linux on his home theatre computer. What he tried to do was get
a LIVE CD distro of Linux running on this home theatre box.

I didn't forget, I just didn't bring it up to see where he would go with
it.

As you said Leythos, for the MAJORITY of computer users today, the newest
distros of Linux are a no-brainer to install. They are even easier to
install on a new blank hard drive than is XP. For one thing, all the device
drivers are typically loaded during the OS installation and not after, like
is the case with XP, where the user then has to go out and visit hardware
websites and download the drivers.

Yea, even laptops I've bought this year seem to work well in most cases.
Sure, some of the video drivers don't support the Wide screen formats on
some of the laptops, but others do. The network support worked, the
hardware was painless, and the video drivers that were selected by the
install worked well as did the sound drivers. Now, these drivers were
not a feature packed as the Windows counterparts, but they presented no
problems that a user would detect.

The real plus of course, is that once installed, Linux just works. None of
this silliness we see around this ng all the time about malware bringing
down the system or lost USB functionality, or corrupted registries, etc.,
etc., etc. that can make running XP a total horror show when it starts to
fall apart.

The only issue I have with FC3 has been the first install and then the
hours of waiting while it downloads the updates. While the base install
from the ISO CD's works fine, the automatic updates take longer to
download than the XP SP2 update.

With all the boxes I have running Windows and now FC3, I don't seem to
have any real problems with any of them. I had one FC3 box take a dump
on me, did a wipe/reinstall and it's worked fine since - I think I
messed up something during a Kernel update I was playing with. All of
the machines I've let update using the automated process have worked
fine.

Now if I could get a simple Remote Desktop connector for Linux that
allows full Terminal Services sessions to a remote server, I would be
set to roll out to clients.

 

[kurttrail]

Just goes again to show how little you understand. A user that's old
enough and has experience with a 286 could still easily be a complete
noob with a computer - especially when it comes to installing an OS.
Using Word/Outlook and IE (now FireFox) does not make one
knowledgeable about how computers work or how to install an OS. You
seem to be the one that's delusional.

286, that would mean using DOS, which is an average user today knows
nothing about.

It's nice to see you resorting to being abusive again - Old Lady/Son,
what part did you miss about two tests?

You are dense. You don't listen to reason, so I'll shove it down you
effin' throat!

So, when you can't reply with
any real content that's on track, or when you get backed into a corner
were you are showing your incompetence, you resort to being abusive.

Blah, Blah, Blah!

The average user today started using computers at the tail end of the 9x
era. Your fictitious mother-in-law is NOT an average user, Doucheboy!

I use my mother as my example of an average user. She does not know how
to install an OS, nor does she EVER want to install an OS! And most of
the average users I know don't know how, and wouldn't want to try. If
you don't understand that average computer user mentality, then you are
clearly demonstrating your total ignorance of the average computer user.

Heck, I know people that were using 586's that have never used a
Floppy disk and don't know they have write protect tabs on them.

But they can do a clean install and setup of Linux on their own! You
are totally and completely full of SH*T!

That is why you have so few friends here. No one wants to buddy around
with an irrational fool.

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[Leythos]

286, that would mean using DOS, which is an average user today knows
nothing about.


You are dense. You don't listen to reason, so I'll shove it down you
effin' throat!



Blah, Blah, Blah!

The average user today started using computers at the tail end of the 9x
era. Your fictitious mother-in-law is NOT an average user, Doucheboy!

It's seems that you don't understand much about people - there are many
users that know nothing about the technical aspects of computers, don't
know about backups, don't know the difference between the CASE and the
processor, don't know the difference between the Computer and the hard-
drive, don't know what USB is, etc.... They all use their computers
without any problem every day, but they don't care to or need to
understand anything other than how to log-on, open email, use
Word/Excel, and browse the web - all of which requires little more than
the ability to click an icon. Those types are noobs that most often know
nothing about installing anything, always take the defaults, never know
where the files are on the drive (or that they actually have a drive),
etc...

I use my mother as my example of an average user. She does not know how
to install an OS, nor does she EVER want to install an OS! And most of
the average users I know don't know how, and wouldn't want to try. If
you don't understand that average computer user mentality, then you are
clearly demonstrating your total ignorance of the average computer user.

You don't give the typical older mother any credit, most, if you tell
them to put the CD in the drive and reboot the computer, can follow the
simple directions to install Windows and Linux. The only complication is
if they have a cheap computer than wasn't setup to boot to CD if
present.

But they can do a clean install and setup of Linux on their own! You
are totally and completely full of SH*T!

You really don't know much about people or computers if you stand with
that idea.

It really appears that you have not installed RedHat FC3 ever, that
you've also not tried any of the current (up to 1 year old) distros of
the major players - the only thing the user has to know is what name
they want to call their computer. For the most part, even the distros
that don't work well will partition, format, and install everything with
just a couple clicks. FC3 only asks what you want to use the computer
for, and explains each pre-packaged solution. It's so simple that even
you could do it.

That is why you have so few friends here. No one wants to buddy around
with an irrational fool.

I didn't come here to be popular, but I've got a lot of emails from
people warning me about your postings, people that didn't already know
that I completely understand your methods and motivation. They were all
nice emails, at least the part about me, can't say the same about you.

So, what are you going to do now that you're backed into a corner and
have proven that you don't know anything about Linux or even what
typical home non-technical users are capable of?

 

[kurttrail]

It's seems that you don't understand much about people - there are
many users that know nothing about the technical aspects of
computers, don't know about backups, don't know the difference
between the CASE and the processor, don't know the difference between
the Computer and the hard- drive, don't know what USB is, etc....
They all use their computers without any problem every day, but they
don't care to or need to understand anything other than how to
log-on, open email, use Word/Excel, and browse the web - all of which
requires little more than the ability to click an icon. Those types
are noobs that most often know nothing about installing anything,
always take the defaults, never know where the files are on the drive
(or that they actually have a drive), etc...

And these are the same people that you say are capable of a clean
install and set up of Linux!

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

You are a stupid Doucheboy! You may be technically smart, but you is
stoopid in real life!

You don't give the typical older mother any credit, most, if you tell
them to put the CD in the drive and reboot the computer, can follow
the simple directions to install Windows and Linux.

These would be the same people that can't read about the spyware that
they are constantly installing on there computers!

If Linux was as easy to install as spyware you might have a point.

The only
complication is if they have a cheap computer than wasn't setup to
boot to CD if present.

LOL! Have you check out all the times in MS XP groups where people
can't boot to CD?

http://groups-beta.google.com/group...81&as_maxd=31&as_maxm=5&as_maxy=2005&safe=off

So you were saying?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

You really don't know much about people or computers if you stand with
that idea.

Nope, I guess not. I think people that can't figure out write-protect
tabs on a floppy disk, wouldn't be able to figure out how to install
Linux. That's right Lameass, in your delusional world where my blind
dog can install Linux without any help, I am the one that doesn't know
much about anything!

I am secure enough to let you hold on to you delusions, and that I'm the
one that is totally wrong, and Linux is so easy to install that a
quadriplegic tapeworm can install it with its eyes closed, and drunk
too!

It really appears that you have not installed RedHat FC3 ever, that
you've also not tried any of the current (up to 1 year old) distros of
the major players - the only thing the user has to know is what name
they want to call their computer.

LOL! Over the last month, I've probably attempted to install more
distros than you have, Schmuckthos, though I admit, I haven't installed
fedora since it was first launched. Fedora is unsupported, and it main
use is as a test bed for Red Hats commercial offering which are
supported. That you recommend it for use as people's primary OS just
shows how little you really know.

For the most part, even the distros
that don't work well will partition, format, and install everything
with just a couple clicks.

If it has the proper drivers, and even then, the drivers are sometimes
of a reduced functionality compared to the drivers that are written for
WinOSs.

FC3 only asks what you want to use the
computer for, and explains each pre-packaged solution. It's so simple
that even you could do it.

LOL! So what! Most people don't want to know and will never attempt to
install an OS EVER!

And those morons that do attempt it:

http://groups-beta.google.com/group...81&as_maxd=31&as_maxm=5&as_maxy=2005&safe=off

I didn't come here to be popular,

Well you succeeded. You aren't popular!

but I've got a lot of emails from
people warning me about your postings,

The majority of the regulars around here, are very respectful of me, as
I am of them, even when we disagree.

Only a very small minority have problems with me. And ya'll that do,
should really wonder why so many of the regulars around here don't have
any problems with me, and they do. You just might want to consider,
that it has less to do about me, than it does with you.

I analyze my interactions with people all the time, and while I'm far
from perfect, I am usually hardest on those that are deserving of it.

people that didn't already know
that I completely understand your methods and motivation.

Yeah,my methods are reality, common sense, and logic. Those that have
problems with me generally don't, and they have to resort with totally
irrational BS.

"It's seems that you don't understand much about people - there are many
users that know nothing about the technical aspects of computers, don't
know about backups, don't know the difference between the CASE and the
processor, don't know the difference between the Computer and the hard-
drive, don't know what USB is, etc.... They all use their computers
without any problem every day, but they don't care to or need to
understand anything other than how to log-on, open email, use
Word/Excel, and browse the web - all of which requires little more than
the ability to click an icon. Those types are noobs that most often know
nothing about installing anything, always take the defaults, never know
where the files are on the drive (or that they actually have a drive),
etc..."

Yet these are the very same people that you are claiming would have no
problem installing a Linux OS on their computer! And the funniest part
is you don't see how illogical you are!

And the more I f*^k with you, the more illogical you get! You are
definitely my bitch!

They were
all nice emails, at least the part about me, can't say the same about
you.

LOL! I bet I could name them all! But the illogical do flock together,
like lemmings or Nazis!

So, what are you going to do now that you're backed into a corner and
have proven that you don't know anything about Linux or even what
typical home non-technical users are capable of?

Corner, the only one that is painted into a corner is you! I made my
point long ago! And now you are just reinforcing that fact! Read your
own words!

"It's seems that you don't understand much about people - there are many
users that know nothing about the technical aspects of computers, don't
know about backups, don't know the difference between the CASE and the
processor, don't know the difference between the Computer and the hard-
drive, don't know what USB is, etc.... They all use their computers
without any problem every day, but they don't care to or need to
understand anything other than how to log-on, open email, use
Word/Excel, and browse the web - all of which requires little more than
the ability to click an icon. Those types are noobs that most often know
nothing about installing anything, always take the defaults, never know
where the files are on the drive (or that they actually have a drive),
etc..."

Yet these "noobs that most often know nothing about installing anything"
will be able to clean install and configure a Linux distro all on their
own!

You are constantly recommending a development OS, that is mainly just a
test bed, a beta OS!

You call someone that has used a computer for over a dozen years, and is
testing out a Linux OS, a noob!

You claim it is so easy for Anyone to boot to CD, when there are tens of
thousands of people that couldn't figure it out to boot to a WinXP CD!
And that is just those smart and/or lucky enough to figure out to post
to a winxp newsgroup!

You are so full of sh*t, that there is no sh*t left for anyone else in
your area code! And the longer you keep his going, the more people can
see how really full of sh*t you really are!

--
Peace!
Kurt
Self-anointed Moderator
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"Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
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