office network

[jessica]

We have approx. 20 computers which are networked together.
They were all Window's 98, but we recently converted 2 of
them to Windows XP. In one of the Win98 computers there is
a "Shared Folder" which all employeed are able to save to.
The folder contains things such as a speadsheet that
employees update when they need supplies. One of the XP
computers cannot save to this folder when they access it
through "my network places" on the C drive of that
computer. If we make a network place that goes directly to
that "Shared Folder" he is able to save. We would like him
to be able to save to files in this folder by going
through the C drive. Is there any way we can do this? The
other XP computer is saving to this foler through the C
drive.

 

[Chuck]

We have approx. 20 computers which are networked together.
They were all Window's 98, but we recently converted 2 of
them to Windows XP. In one of the Win98 computers there is
a "Shared Folder" which all employeed are able to save to.
The folder contains things such as a speadsheet that
employees update when they need supplies. One of the XP
computers cannot save to this folder when they access it
through "my network places" on the C drive of that
computer. If we make a network place that goes directly to
that "Shared Folder" he is able to save. We would like him
to be able to save to files in this folder by going
through the C drive. Is there any way we can do this? The
other XP computer is saving to this foler through the C
drive.

Jessica,

Please be precise - what is happening when "One of the XP computers cannot save
to this folder when they access it through "my network places" on the C drive of
that computer.". Can the share not be seen? Or can the share be seen and is an
error message received when trying to save? If so please quote the error.

Make sure the browser service is running on each XP computer. Control Panel -
Administrative Tools - Services. Verify that the Computer Browser, and the
TCP/IP NetBIOS Helper, services both show with Status = Started.

On any XP Pro computer, check to see if Simple File Sharing (Control Panel -
Folder Options - View - Advanced settings) is enabled or disabled. With XP Pro,
you need to have SFS consistently set on each computer.

On XP Pro, and with SFS disabled, check the Local Security Policies (Control
Panel - Administrative Tools). Under Local Policies - Security Options, look at
"Network access: Sharing and security model", and ensure it's set to "Classic -
local users authenticate as themselves".

On XP Pro, and with SFS disabled, if you set the above Local Security Policy to
"Guest only", enable the Guest account, using Start - Run - "cmd" - type "net
user guest /active:yes" in the command window. If "Classic", setup and use a
common non-Guest account on all computers. Whichever account is used, give it
an identical, non-blank password on all computers.

On XP Pro with Simple File Sharing enabled, make sure that the Guest account is
enabled, on each computer. Enable Guest with Start - Run - "cmd" - type "net
user guest /active:yes" in the command window.

What is the exact name of the share on the Win98 computer? Exactly what are you
doing differently when you "make a network place that goes directly to that
"Shared Folder""?

If the problem is share visibility, consider a browser (I'm not talking about IE
here) problem.

The Microsoft Browstat program will show us what browsers you have in your
domain / workgroup, at any time.
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=188305

You can download Browstat from either:
<http://www.dynawell.com/reskit/microsoft/win2000/browstat.zip>
<http://rescomp.stanford.edu/staff/manual/rcc/tools/browstat.zip>

Browstat is very small (40K), and needs no install. Just unzip the downloaded
file, copy browstat.exe to any folder in the Path, and run it from a command
window. Run it on both XP computers, and compare the output.

For more information about the browser subsystem (very intricate), see:
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=188001
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=188305
<http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winntas/deploy/prodspecs/ntbrowse.mspx>

Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.

 

[Guest]

-----Original Message-----


Jessica,

Please be precise - what is happening when "One of the XP computers cannot save
to this folder when they access it through "my network places" on the C drive of
that computer.". Can the share not be seen? Or can the share be seen and is an
error message received when trying to save? If so please quote the error.

Make sure the browser service is running on each XP computer. Control Panel -
Administrative Tools - Services. Verify that the Computer Browser, and the
TCP/IP NetBIOS Helper, services both show with Status = Started.

On any XP Pro computer, check to see if Simple File Sharing (Control Panel -
Folder Options - View - Advanced settings) is enabled or disabled. With XP Pro,
you need to have SFS consistently set on each computer.

On XP Pro, and with SFS disabled, check the Local Security Policies (Control
Panel - Administrative Tools). Under Local Policies - Security Options, look at
"Network access: Sharing and security model", and ensure it's set to "Classic -
local users authenticate as themselves".

On XP Pro, and with SFS disabled, if you set the above Local Security Policy to
"Guest only", enable the Guest account, using Start - Run - "cmd" - type "net
user guest /active:yes" in the command window. If "Classic", setup and use a
common non-Guest account on all computers. Whichever account is used, give it
an identical, non-blank password on all computers.

On XP Pro with Simple File Sharing enabled, make sure that the Guest account is
enabled, on each computer. Enable Guest with Start - Run - "cmd" - type "net
user guest /active:yes" in the command window.

What is the exact name of the share on the Win98

computer? Exactly what are you

doing differently when you "make a network place that goes directly to that
"Shared Folder""?

If the problem is share visibility, consider a browser (I'm not talking about IE
here) problem.

The Microsoft Browstat program will show us what browsers you have in your
domain / workgroup, at any time.
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=188305

You can download Browstat from either:
<http://www.dynawell.com/reskit/microsoft/win2000/browstat ..zip>
at.zip>

Browstat is very small (40K), and needs no install. Just unzip the downloaded
file, copy browstat.exe to any folder in the Path, and run it from a command
window. Run it on both XP computers, and compare the output.

For more information about the browser subsystem (very intricate), see:
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=188001
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=188305
<http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winntas/depl oy/prodspecs/ntbrowse.mspx>

Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.
.
More Precise:

The XP accesses the files using "My Network Places" and
going through the C: drive of the Win98 computer with this
folder on it. The XP is able to view the files as normal,
but when he tries to save, he gets a "read only" error
message. The message says that you cannot save, but you
can use "Save As" and create another copy.

The exact name of the folder we are trying to share
is "Shared Folder". In "My Network Places" we create a new
network place. We then browse and go through the workgroup
to make that network place the "Shared Folder".

thanks again,
Jessica

 

[Chuck]

quote the error.

The XP accesses the files using "My Network Places" and
going through the C: drive of the Win98 computer with this
folder on it. The XP is able to view the files as normal,
but when he tries to save, he gets a "read only" error
message. The message says that you cannot save, but you
can use "Save As" and create another copy.

The exact name of the folder we are trying to share
is "Shared Folder". In "My Network Places" we create a new
network place. We then browse and go through the workgroup
to make that network place the "Shared Folder".

thanks again,
Jessica

Hi Jessica,

Are the XP computers running XP Home or Pro?

Is the Windows 98 computer using share level or user level access control?

What are the differences between the two XP computers, in their user accounts,
and security policies, setup?

Are the owners of the XP computers using different user names when logged in?
If so, what happens if they trade computers for a bit (logged in as themselves
to the other computer)?

In Windows 98, you can specify read-only access for specific shares, for
specific users. If a given user is assigned read-only access for a given share
(sub directory of C, but read-write access for the C: root share, this could
happen.

More about file sharing, between all different versions of Windows:
<http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...db-aef8-4bef-925e-7ac9be791028&DisplayLang=en>

Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.