Office 07 on MVL-Vista?

[Jeff]

Well,
Office 07 is now on Microsoft Volume licensing;for those individuals
that have access that is.
Hmm,
Can Vista be far behind?
Wonder why;if Office is released to volume people; that Vista isn't there
yet?
Or for that matter; available to MSDN technet people?

Not to ruffle feathers; but;lol; ya know I gotta.

BTW, RTM has leaked to the world!!!

On various umm,umm Torrents-LOL

Jeff

 

[Smartie77]

Vista Final x86 iso is popping up everywhere on the net now the whole day.
Its on torrentpages,the usenet,emule and where not all.
btw .- keygens and wpa-patches and spp-cracks are also popping up like hell.

just google about it, and be amazed, half the world seems to run build 6000
already.

So.. Ms should release the thing to msdn now to be fair and realistic.

 

[Kevin John Panzke]

Well,
Office 07 is now on Microsoft Volume licensing;for those individuals
that have access that is.
Hmm,
Can Vista be far behind?
Wonder why;if Office is released to volume people; that Vista isn't
there yet?
Or for that matter; available to MSDN technet people?

Not to ruffle feathers; but;lol; ya know I gotta.

BTW, RTM has leaked to the world!!!

On various umm,umm Torrents-LOL

Jeff

Microsoft Office 2007 will be Available to MSDN Premium Subscriber's
beginning on Sunday, May 12th, 2006, and Windows Vista RTM will be
available to MSDN Subscriber's (most likely Operating Systems Level and
Higher, considering the fact that Microsoft Tech Net Plus Subscriber's
will be getting RTM as well, and since Mary Jo Foley was incorrect about
the MSDN Release Date for MSDN, she is probably incorrect about her
other statement in that release as well), beginning Friday, November
17th, 2006, according to Jupiter Jones (MS-MVP), Just FYI.

 

[Jeppe]

Well,
Office 07 is now on Microsoft Volume licensing;for those individuals
that have access that is.
Hmm,
Can Vista be far behind?
Wonder why;if Office is released to volume people; that Vista isn't
there yet?
Or for that matter; available to MSDN technet people?

Not to ruffle feathers; but;lol; ya know I gotta.

BTW, RTM has leaked to the world!!!

On various umm,umm Torrents-LOL

Jeff

I agree, it's pretty frustrating see Vista everywhere on the web.

 

[Alexander Suhovey]

I agree, it's pretty frustrating see Vista everywhere on the web.

It's inevitable for the peace of software that has a level of attention and
popularity Vista has. I see it as a great opportunity for SPP to actually
show itself in action early. Wouldn't bet on it though

 

[Alexander Suhovey]

It's inevitable for the peace of software that has a level of attention
and popularity Vista has. I see it as a great opportunity for SPP to
actually show itself in action early. Wouldn't bet on it though

"Peace", lol. Sorry for typo.

 

[Jeff]

Early in action?
Heck,
There are "supposedly" SPP cracks out ALREADY! lol

Jeff

 

[Alexander Suhovey]

Early in action?
Heck,
There are "supposedly" SPP cracks out ALREADY! lol

"Supposedly", yes. Let's see how it works out.

 

[Jeff]

Alexander,

No matter my stand on the SPP issue;which you well know;if you've read any
of my threads, when it comes to retail;
stealing is stealing- I'm totally against SPP, but I;m also 100% legit.
MSFT can deal with piracy without having to resort to SPP.
But; until it's dropped;let's see what it does do.
I know what it does; I've seen it tested it out-trust me"reduced
functionality" is not just limiting access to defender;aero etc.
Like MSFT tries to spin it as.
It effectively locks out the control panel too.
And without control panel access;it's very difficult to get to your hard
drive. Not saying it can't be accessed; but the person demonstrating
it;couldn't.
but again,
Piracy is stealing.

Jeff

 

[Alexander Suhovey]

Alexander,

No matter my stand on the SPP issue;which you well know;if you've read any
of my threads, when it comes to retail;
stealing is stealing- I'm totally against SPP, but I;m also 100% legit.
MSFT can deal with piracy without having to resort to SPP.

Jeff,
I will not comment on SPP since I'm yet to see a single burp from it on all
of my Vista computers so I'm not qualified to judge its pros and cons.
However, I wonder what do you see as a better *technical* approach to the
piracy issue? Note technical since I'm sure IP owners do everything they can
already in other areas like law [enforcement], lobbying, education,
zombiefication and manipulating public opinion.

As for price cuts, personally I don't believe in it as an effective measure.
Being Russian, I've seen so many people who use price as an excuse to piracy
but who wouldn't buy ANYTHING if it has a crack available. Even if it's
small shareware with $10 price tag.

But; until it's dropped;let's see what it does do.

Sure, let's see how it works globally.

I know what it does; I've seen it tested it out-trust me"reduced
functionality" is not just limiting access to defender;aero etc.
Like MSFT tries to spin it as. It effectively locks out the control panel
too.
And without control panel access;it's very difficult to get to your hard
drive. Not saying it can't be accessed; but the person demonstrating
it;couldn't.

Sure if SPP will prove unreliable en mass, it will be dumped, no doubt about
it.

but again,
Piracy is stealing.

Can't agree with that, but that's another story.

 

[Jeff]

Alexander,
It's an issue of principle-not one of technical ability.
WGA itself is fine.
And for most; SPP may not interfer; but when it does;illegitimately denying
service to legitimate customers is the issue; and although MSFT says its
only a small percentage; even .00001% is unacceptable; SPP phones home;
basically spyin on your pc;everytime you boot up.
And here in the US; and for me personally;thats an unacceptable way to do
business. (well maybe not the us-as George Bush is spyin on everyone now),
but basically MSFTs premise in regards to SPP, is one of criminal intent.
Always reporting into MSFT at everybootup is WAY wrong.
It's in effect treating their customers as criminal;and checking them;every
boot up;to see that they're not.

Jeff

Alexander,

No matter my stand on the SPP issue;which you well know;if you've read
any of my threads, when it comes to retail;
stealing is stealing- I'm totally against SPP, but I;m also 100% legit.
MSFT can deal with piracy without having to resort to SPP.

Jeff,
I will not comment on SPP since I'm yet to see a single burp from it on
all of my Vista computers so I'm not qualified to judge its pros and cons.
However, I wonder what do you see as a better *technical* approach to the
piracy issue? Note technical since I'm sure IP owners do everything they
can already in other areas like law [enforcement], lobbying, education,
zombiefication and manipulating public opinion.

As for price cuts, personally I don't believe in it as an effective
measure. Being Russian, I've seen so many people who use price as an
excuse to piracy but who wouldn't buy ANYTHING if it has a crack
available. Even if it's small shareware with $10 price tag.

But; until it's dropped;let's see what it does do.

Sure, let's see how it works globally.

I know what it does; I've seen it tested it out-trust me"reduced
functionality" is not just limiting access to defender;aero etc.
Like MSFT tries to spin it as. It effectively locks out the control panel
too.
And without control panel access;it's very difficult to get to your hard
drive. Not saying it can't be accessed; but the person demonstrating
it;couldn't.

Sure if SPP will prove unreliable en mass, it will be dumped, no doubt
about it.

but again,
Piracy is stealing.

Can't agree with that, but that's another story.

 

[Alexander Suhovey]

Alexander,
It's an issue of principle-not one of technical ability.
WGA itself is fine.
And for most; SPP may not interfer; but when it does;illegitimately
denying service to legitimate customers is the issue; and although MSFT
says its only a small percentage; even .00001% is unacceptable;

Jeff, come on. If that's how you feel about it you probably couldn't use ANY
software since all of them have bugs. When Windows BSoDs on you (not that it
happens often lately), do you consider it "illegitimately denying service to
legitimate customers"?.. Me? Hell yes! But reality is that there's no such
thing as bug-free software (except "Hello World" one-liners and alike).
And, wait a minute, you just said that it's of principle, not technical
ability while this is a technical question we are talking about here.

SPP phones home; basically spyin on your pc;everytime you boot up.

It's not a secret, I remember reading about it in EULA so you can't really
cal it "spying", can you? Just a matter of terminology but let's be correct
in terms of ... err... terms.

It's in effect treating their customers as criminal;and checking
them;every boot up;to see that they're not.

Well, I don't feel like that about SPP. But that's just me.

I'm yet to hear from you about an alternative. Do you have one?

 

[Jeff]

Yup,
WGA as it stands is fine by me.

Jeff
PS we can differ on it-but I feel it's way wrong-SPP that is.

 

[Jeff]

As an addendum,

Because I must leave;
a real quick response, philosophy aside.

Yes,
Technologically SPP is a step forward;
indeed it is.
And we'll have to see if it works as intended.

Jeff

 

[Alexander Suhovey]

Yup,
WGA as it stands is fine by me.

Jeff,

WGA is a joke piracy-wise. It does nothing to prevent it.

Updates? WSUS is here to help, it doesn't require any licence checks.
WGA-protected downloads? Well, maybe but sooo remotely.

Having said that, I have to ask you - when you said "fine by me" was it
purely from a customer perspective or do you really consider WGA as a good
anti-piracy technology?
You can't be serious here...

PS we can differ on it-but I feel it's way wrong-SPP that is.

Well, I don't feel like SPP is a kick-ass cool technology that will
eliminate piracy in 1-2-3 (not that I know much about SPP lol). But I don't
see any alternative technologically on my radar either.

 

[Jeff]

Gotta run; but read my addendum.
Thx.
Jeff

Jeff,

WGA is a joke piracy-wise. It does nothing to prevent it.

Updates? WSUS is here to help, it doesn't require any licence checks.
WGA-protected downloads? Well, maybe but sooo remotely.

Having said that, I have to ask you - when you said "fine by me" was it
purely from a customer perspective or do you really consider WGA as a good
anti-piracy technology?
You can't be serious here...


Well, I don't feel like SPP is a kick-ass cool technology that will
eliminate piracy in 1-2-3 (not that I know much about SPP lol). But I
don't see any alternative technologically on my radar either.