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Richard Urban
Windows 7 is going RTM in latter July. General availability is set for
October 22.
If you are currently running Vista the upgrade is painless.
October 22.
If you are currently running Vista the upgrade is painless.
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Bruce Chambers
Richard said:Windows 7 is going RTM in latter July. General availability is set for
October 22.
If you are currently running Vista the upgrade is painless.
The real question is: When will all of the hardware manufacturers have
device drivers ready? Or will their lack of timely response plague
Win7, as it did Vista?
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Drew
Good point Richard!! Let us just hope they get it right this time...
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Jon
Richard Urban said:Windows 7 is going RTM in latter July. General availability is set for
October 22.
If you are currently running Vista the upgrade is painless.
Painless, and hopefully not pointless. Time will tell.
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Bill Sharpe
Painless perhaps, but not cost-free...Richard said:Windows 7 is going RTM in latter July. General availability is set for
October 22.
If you are currently running Vista the upgrade is painless.
Bill
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Rich
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Richard Urban
And just why should it be cost free?
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+Bob+
And just why should it be cost free?
Because it's really SP3 for Vista, a buggy and feature deprived OS
that should never have been released - or at least should be upgraded
to Win7 for free.
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milt
+Bob+ said:Because it's really SP3 for Vista, a buggy and feature deprived OS
that should never have been released - or at least should be upgraded
to Win7 for free.
That may be your opinion but not one shared by very many people. Its not
an SP3 for Vista since SP2 for Vista came out long after Win7 was in
development and there are many changes from Vista.
Tho of course I'm probably wasting my time with the likes of you, no doubt.
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milt
Tae said:Free upgrade to Win7, I will second that motion.
Why on earth should MS release a new version of Windows for free after
spending boatloads of money paying people to make it? You think
Microsoft should be a charity?
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Richard Urban
I have used Vista Ultimate trouble free for over 2 1/2 years now (on 3
personal computers). I have gotten my moneys worth out of this operating
system. It owes me nothing.
When Windows 7 comes out I will gladly pay to purchase either Windows 7
Professional or Windows 7 Ultimate and use that for another 2 years.
You're just cheap and think that everyone owes you something!
personal computers). I have gotten my moneys worth out of this operating
system. It owes me nothing.
When Windows 7 comes out I will gladly pay to purchase either Windows 7
Professional or Windows 7 Ultimate and use that for another 2 years.
You're just cheap and think that everyone owes you something!
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+Bob+
I have used Vista Ultimate trouble free for over 2 1/2 years now (on 3
personal computers). I have gotten my moneys worth out of this operating
system. It owes me nothing.
You've made the erroneous assumption that your experience represents
the world. Plenty of both personal and corporate users disagree with
you. Perhaps you should pay more attention to the media and industry.
When Windows 7 comes out I will gladly pay to purchase either Windows 7
Professional or Windows 7 Ultimate and use that for another 2 years.
You're just cheap and think that everyone owes you something!
Do you always make assumptions about people you don't even know?
I don't mind paying for goods that provide value equal to the expense.
Vista does not. While it's short of "rip off", it's certainly damaged
goods. Charging people for the correction - Win7 - now that's a rip
off.
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Drew
I have to agree with the positive on this as myself and all my friends and
contacts also have been running Vista since day one with no stumbles,
crashes or anything negative.. The only thing I have done to this system is
switch from 32 bit to 64 bit and knew way ahead that I would need to do a
clean install.. The majority of problems people have had is due to inferior
equipment or inferior mentality. Which category do you fall in as it is one
or the other as there is no other possibilities!!!
contacts also have been running Vista since day one with no stumbles,
crashes or anything negative.. The only thing I have done to this system is
switch from 32 bit to 64 bit and knew way ahead that I would need to do a
clean install.. The majority of problems people have had is due to inferior
equipment or inferior mentality. Which category do you fall in as it is one
or the other as there is no other possibilities!!!
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Richard Urban
Then don't buy it!
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Tae Song
+Bob+ said:Because it's really SP3 for Vista, a buggy and feature deprived OS
that should never have been released - or at least should be upgraded
to Win7 for free.
Free upgrade to Win7, I will second that motion.
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Tae Song
milt said:Why on earth should MS release a new version of Windows for free after
spending boatloads of money paying people to make it? You think Microsoft
should be a charity?
It's not like they are going to. I just liked the idea. I didn't say it
was reasonable.
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+Bob+
I have to agree with the positive on this as myself and all my friends and
contacts also have been running Vista since day one with no stumbles,
crashes or anything negative.. The only thing I have done to this system is
switch from 32 bit to 64 bit and knew way ahead that I would need to do a
clean install.. The majority of problems people have had is due to inferior
equipment or inferior mentality. Which category do you fall in as it is one
or the other as there is no other possibilities!!!
Total BS. Take a look around the industry. See how many people have
issue with Vista. See how many corporations refused to adopt Vista
after an in-depth review (Corporations that consistently upgraded from
one windows release to the next, sans Millennium, without exception).
As for my equipment, it's new and certified for Vista. That doesn't
make Vista any better, it just doesn't make it worse. The same goes
for those major corporation I mentioned.
As for mentality, I'm sure I beat you there - if only by having the
intelligence not to make erroneous assumptions about other people.
Likewise, many VERY talented people with serious Windows engineering
and support skills, people with list of certifications, people who did
robust testing, have advised their corporations/businesses not to
adopt Vista (but for some reason, you, untrained, uncertified,
unaccomplished, and sitting at your lone desktop, seem to know
better).
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+Bob+
Then don't buy it!
That's not the issue. Vista needs serious correction. Paying for SP3,
er, I mean Windows 7, may be the only solution.
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Drew
I should have expected a response such as this from you.. You who say just
because you are having problems and some others are having problems you
automatically assume that everyone is having these problems!! Your equipment
is so called vista certified which means diddly squat and you know it!! Many
many corporations were advised not to jump to xp when it first came out as
it was a buggy op system as all are when first introduced!!.. If you deny
that than once again you prove how feeble your argument really is.. I have
on purpose many times stressed this machine trying to cause it to crash just
so I could validate other arguments that it is a problem with vista.. It
simply will not do it, then again it is not a store bought system that
always has a weak point in it somewhere. As for the untrained or
unaccomplished well I run 4 different machines here at my home, 1 vista
business desktop, 1 vista home premium all in one desktop and 2 xp machines
1 laptop xp pro and 1 desktop xp home.. both xp machines are slow and buggy
as they have had so many patches and service packs they are bogged down
terribly also they are not as modern as the vista machines. Now unless you
personally know all the people and what equipment they run that are
currently having problems then you really do not have a winning argument
towards the negative as the proof that you should be reading in the
responses to your post. I speak from personal experience with the machines
that my friends run as I either built them or had them built for them.. Each
one is custom built with various processors, motherboards, graphics cards
and hard drives that are known to work well together.. The software that
they run is up to date and not something that was written in the dark ages
for let's say win 98. They do not load there computers down with CRAP like
mcafee or anything norton that are known to cause problems. They also
maintain there systems with good housekeeping which also helps prevent
problems. Now I was hoping to have or partake in a intelligent debate over
this post but obviously you have chosen not to so this is where one says
PLONK!! There's another one for the killfile!!
because you are having problems and some others are having problems you
automatically assume that everyone is having these problems!! Your equipment
is so called vista certified which means diddly squat and you know it!! Many
many corporations were advised not to jump to xp when it first came out as
it was a buggy op system as all are when first introduced!!.. If you deny
that than once again you prove how feeble your argument really is.. I have
on purpose many times stressed this machine trying to cause it to crash just
so I could validate other arguments that it is a problem with vista.. It
simply will not do it, then again it is not a store bought system that
always has a weak point in it somewhere. As for the untrained or
unaccomplished well I run 4 different machines here at my home, 1 vista
business desktop, 1 vista home premium all in one desktop and 2 xp machines
1 laptop xp pro and 1 desktop xp home.. both xp machines are slow and buggy
as they have had so many patches and service packs they are bogged down
terribly also they are not as modern as the vista machines. Now unless you
personally know all the people and what equipment they run that are
currently having problems then you really do not have a winning argument
towards the negative as the proof that you should be reading in the
responses to your post. I speak from personal experience with the machines
that my friends run as I either built them or had them built for them.. Each
one is custom built with various processors, motherboards, graphics cards
and hard drives that are known to work well together.. The software that
they run is up to date and not something that was written in the dark ages
for let's say win 98. They do not load there computers down with CRAP like
mcafee or anything norton that are known to cause problems. They also
maintain there systems with good housekeeping which also helps prevent
problems. Now I was hoping to have or partake in a intelligent debate over
this post but obviously you have chosen not to so this is where one says
PLONK!! There's another one for the killfile!!
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Mark Levitski
We're not sure HOW you used it.
I am a scientist/engineer and Vista is a prohibited piece of crapware that
is NOT allowed to be installe dhere anymore.
We downgraded to WindowsXP.
Vista is meant for kids, housewives and playful public who search for
videos, pictures and other bs that has nothing todo with busienss.
I am a scientist/engineer and Vista is a prohibited piece of crapware that
is NOT allowed to be installe dhere anymore.
We downgraded to WindowsXP.
Vista is meant for kids, housewives and playful public who search for
videos, pictures and other bs that has nothing todo with busienss.
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