OEM

[Jason Braaten]

I recieved the computer I have now, loaded with Windows
XP. About half of the OEM sticker is still on my case,
however when I contacted the people I recieved the
computer from, they didn't have the OEM for the XP disk so
I could install it on my other home PC. My general
question is, how do I get the rest of the OEM so i can do
this?

 

[Cari \(MS-MVP\)]

An OEM software version of Windows is tied to the first PC on which it was
installed and activated and CANNOT be installed on a second PC, even if the
first PC blows up, dies or is otherwise taken out of service.

Cari
www.coribright.com

 

[KnightOfTheKingOfPop]

There is a work around on this. First upgrade half of your hardware and then
upgrade the other half! You will have just done upgrades, but in fact you
will have another computer.

Right?


for the ones reading technical replies, I would them (if they are kind
enough) to give
me their feedback with another post (in the same thread of course), so I
will know if my advice helped them or not.

Kenny S www.talentgrid.com
www.computerboom.net

 

[Shootist]

Cari what you are saying is completely wrong. Yes if the PC is taken out of service and discarded
you can't use the OS on another PC but as long as there is 1 piece of hardware left in/on the
original PC you can reinstall the OEM OS. And that means the CASE also. You get a reduced price on
the OS because MS will not support it. That's like saying I can't use my rims from a car I buy on
another car. I bought the car I can use any piece of it on any other car. I paid for the OS and I
can use it on any other piece of hardware as long as I don't install it on more than 1 PC. Ya Ya Ya
you are going to say read the license, I have and it is against the constitution of the USA. So
stick it.


--
Shootist


| An OEM software version of Windows is tied to the first PC on which it was
| installed and activated and CANNOT be installed on a second PC, even if the
| first PC blows up, dies or is otherwise taken out of service.
|
| Cari
| www.coribright.com
|
| | > I recieved the computer I have now, loaded with Windows
| > XP. About half of the OEM sticker is still on my case,
| > however when I contacted the people I recieved the
| > computer from, they didn't have the OEM for the XP disk so
| > I could install it on my other home PC. My general
| > question is, how do I get the rest of the OEM so i can do
| > this?
|
|
|

 

[Bob S]

MVP's should stick to facts as they really are and Quit
Brown Noseing Bill. What you said is completly false.

 

[Willit]

download this and run it on the first machine

http://www.magicaljellybean.com/ That will give you the
key to use on the second one.

if it's been over 120 days it will activate online or by
phone, If less you will have to do it on the automated
phone system.

 

[falcon]

No matter how you flavor it, or try to justify it, it's
still theft!

-----Original Message-----
Cari what you are saying is completely wrong. Yes if the

PC is taken out of service and discarded

you can't use the OS on another PC but as long as there

is 1 piece of hardware left in/on the

original PC you can reinstall the OEM OS. And that means

the CASE also. You get a reduced price on

the OS because MS will not support it. That's like

saying I can't use my rims from a car I buy on

another car. I bought the car I can use any piece of it

on any other car. I paid for the OS and I

can use it on any other piece of hardware as long as I

don't install it on more than 1 PC. Ya Ya Ya

you are going to say read the license, I have and it is

against the constitution of the USA. So

 

[Willit]

Now you must have a real sense of morality...lol Stealing
from yourself, that's a good one. You must have been
schooled in a MS sponsored school where they taught you
that Bill and MS was the givers of law and morality.

 

[Jim Macklin]

AIDA32 will return information on installed software. If
you need to reinstall the OEM OS you will need the product
key and AIDA32 (Google it) will give you what you need to
know.

To install XP on two computer you will need a second product
number because you won't be able to get updates for both,
the Windows Update will see two computers with one OS and
refuse the second.


| I recieved the computer I have now, loaded with Windows
| XP. About half of the OEM sticker is still on my case,
| however when I contacted the people I recieved the
| computer from, they didn't have the OEM for the XP disk so
| I could install it on my other home PC. My general
| question is, how do I get the rest of the OEM so i can do
| this?

 

[Willit]

This is not true: Completly false !!!!!

"To install XP on two computer you will need a second
product number because you won't be able to get updates
for both,the Windows Update will see two computers with
one OS and refuse the second."

Wherever you got this from you best ck it out It's bogus
information.

 

[Rick \Nutcase\ Rogers]

Those are the facts, just as Cari stated them. OEM versions are tied
permanently to the first pc upon which they are installed and activated. You
lose/trash/blowup the machine, you will need a new copy for the next one.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers aka "Nutcase" MS-MVP - Win9x

Associate Expert - WinXP - Expert Zone

 

[Ken Blake]

In

Cari what you are saying is completely wrong. Yes if the PC is taken
out of service and discarded you can't use the OS on another PC but
as long as there is 1 piece of hardware left in/on the original PC
you can reinstall the OEM OS. And that means the CASE also.

This is an exceedingly gray area. What constitutes "the original
computer" has never been completely defined, and my guess is that
Microsoft doesn't want to define it.

Your view that as long as there is one piece of hardware left
it's the original PC is one that you could argue. I would argue
that since the OEM Product Key sticker is supposed to be applied
to the case, the case is what defines the original computer.
Others have argued that it's the motherboard. As far as I know,
this has never been tested in court, and until it is (if ever),
all we have is opinions.

Moreover, Cari didn't attempt to define what the original PC
consists of. All he said was "CANNOT be installed on a second PC,
even if the first PC blows up, dies or is otherwise taken out of
service." That isn't completely wrong, it's completely right.

 

[Gary Davis]

So I paid for a license for my car from the DMV. Does that mean I can peal
the sticker off my licence plate and put it on my other car so I can drive
it?

 

[Bruce Chambers]

Greetings --

You can't.

1) Let's apply a little common sense to the question, shall we?
Does your local grocer let you walk out of the market with three
loaves of bread when you've paid for only one? Can you drive two cars
home if you've paid for only one? Does your local clothier allow you
to leave the shop with two shirts if you've purchased only one? Have
you noticed a trend, yet? So where in the world did you ever get the
idea that software manufacturers would sell their product licenses any
differently?

As it has *always* been with *all* Microsoft operating systems,
it's necessary (to be in compliance with both the EULA and copyright
laws, if not technically) to purchase one WinXP license for each
computer on which it is installed. The only way in which WinXP
licensing differs from that of earlier versions of Windows is that
Microsoft has finally added a copy protection and anti-theft
mechanism, Product Activation, to prevent (or at least make more
difficult) the sort of multiple installations you're asking about.

2) OEM versions must be sold with a piece of hardware (normally a
motherboard or hard drive, if not an entire PC, although Microsoft has
greatly relaxed the hardware criteria for WinXP) and are _permanently_
bound to the first PC on which they are installed. An OEM license,
once installed, is not legally transferable to another computer under
any circumstances.


Bruce Chambers

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[Bruce Chambers]

Greetings --

Please restrict your advocacy of software piracy (theft, in plain
English) to the various warez groups, where others of your ilk gather.
Presumably the OP asked the question here because he wanted an honest
and correct answer.

Bruce Chambers

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You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on
having both at once. -- RAH

 

[Bruce Chambers]

Greetings --

No brown-nosing involved. Cari did state the facts.

If you want to advocate software piracy (theft, in plain English)
to the various warez groups, stick to the warez groups, where others
of your ilk gather. Presumably the OP asked the question here because
he wanted an honest and correct answer.


Bruce Chambers

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You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on
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[Willit]

Thats your opnion on what piracy is. If I own it it's
hardly piracy. Your opnion is just like mine, one persons
opnion. So you can take it to a place where others of you
ilk gather and roll it up and smoke it......lol.

 

[Willit]

Once again , just your opinion. It carries no weight
except in your mind.

 

[Bruce Chambers]

Greetings --

You own _nothing_ beyond a license (permission, in plain English)
to use the software (that remains entirely the property of its
publisher) in accordance with the terms of the EULA.

Bruce Chambers

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You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on
having both at once. -- RAH

 

[Rick \Nutcase\ Rogers]

It's not opinion, it's fact. You need to differentiate between the two,
whether or not you agree with the facts.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers aka "Nutcase" MS-MVP - Win9x

Associate Expert - WinXP - Expert Zone