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Brian
What's the difference between oem and retail versions of windows xp?
Function is same, but support issues?
Thanks.
Function is same, but support issues?
Thanks.
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Chris Lanier
Greetings
Please See "OEM CD's & Microsoft Licensing" (Scroll Down)
http://aumha.org/win5/a/xpupgrad.htm
Please See "OEM CD's & Microsoft Licensing" (Scroll Down)
http://aumha.org/win5/a/xpupgrad.htm
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JAX
With the OEM edition, you have no support from MS (for what it's worth) and
you cannot install it to a new machine should you decide to get one.
Otherwise, I believe, there is no difference.
LOL. JAX
you cannot install it to a new machine should you decide to get one.
Otherwise, I believe, there is no difference.
LOL. JAX
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Norm
What would stop me from installing the OEM edition on a new machine that I
purchase or put together?
purchase or put together?
B
Brian
I cannot install it to a new machine? Then where does it work? OEM only
allows clean install. So it is supposed to be installed to a new machine.
Thanks.
allows clean install. So it is supposed to be installed to a new machine.
Thanks.
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Torgeir Bakken (MVP)
Brian said:I cannot install it to a new machine? Then where does it work? OEM only
allows clean install. So it is supposed to be installed to a new machine.
New as in a new computer compared to the original computer the OEM OS was
installed on (that was new but became old).
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JAX
MS has, I believe it is, a three point check on the PC's hardware. It
includes the processor, hard-drive and chipset, amongst others. If you have
changed too many pieces of hardware you cannot activate XP. In some cases
you can activate by phone if you have just had a catastrophe and needed to
replace more than three components.
HTH. JAX
includes the processor, hard-drive and chipset, amongst others. If you have
changed too many pieces of hardware you cannot activate XP. In some cases
you can activate by phone if you have just had a catastrophe and needed to
replace more than three components.
HTH. JAX
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Norm
But after 120 days MS don't care so I can install the OEM version on a
different computer, can't I?
different computer, can't I?
B
Brian
Then, if I wipe off my hard drive, i think oem can be installed since
there's no os on it.
THanks
there's no os on it.
THanks
J
JAX
I have never had a need to try to install an "OEM" version on another
machine but it is against the EULA and I believe that it will be detected
and rejected. All I can say is, try and see!
JAX
machine but it is against the EULA and I believe that it will be detected
and rejected. All I can say is, try and see!
JAX
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JAX
You can re-install to the same machine as many times as you want, you can
change your h-drive or any other components, up to three, and still activate
via internet. If you change more than three you still can activate via phone
but, to my understanding, some of the original hardware must remain.
change your h-drive or any other components, up to three, and still activate
via internet. If you change more than three you still can activate via phone
but, to my understanding, some of the original hardware must remain.
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JAX
Oh yea, OEM does not support an upgrade, it is clean install only.
JAX
JAX
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Michael Stevens
Brian said:What's the difference between oem and retail versions of windows xp?
Function is same, but support issues?
Thanks.
Click on the links below, or copy and paste the links into the address box
if using the web based newsgroup.
OEM
http://michaelstevenstech.com/xpfaq.html#can3
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JAX
Hot dern, Mr. Stevens, you were able to sum up in one post what I couldn't
in five!
JAX
in five!
JAX
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Michael Stevens
JAX said:Hot dern, Mr. Stevens, you were able to sum up in one post what I
couldn't in five!
JAX
JAX,
<blush> twern't nothing, but thanks and thanks for your efforts in the
newsgroups.
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kurttrail
"By the act of scrolling and/or replying this post on your computer, you agree that I am your everlasting Lord & Saviour. Breach of this term will result in you burning in hell for ever and ever! Amen!"
"Another reply from The Microsoft OEM System Builder Licensing Team."
The direct link to the reply is:
http://communities.microsoft.com/ne...015501c35d16%24b2605ff0%[email protected]%3E
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Peace!
Kurt
Self-anointed Moderator
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"Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"
Michael said:Click on the links below, or copy and paste the links into the
address box if using the web based newsgroup.
OEM
http://michaelstevenstech.com/xpfaq.html#can3
"Another reply from The Microsoft OEM System Builder Licensing Team."
The direct link to the reply is:
http://communities.microsoft.com/ne...015501c35d16%24b2605ff0%[email protected]%3E
--
Peace!
Kurt
Self-anointed Moderator
microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
http://microscum.com
"Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"
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Daniel L. Belton
Licnse agreement for one... The OEM version is tied to the originalNorm said:What would stop me from installing the OEM edition on a new machine that I
purchase or put together?
hardware.
Also, it is possible that the original manufacturer modified your
version of WinXP and it might not even install at all on different hardware.
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Bruce Chambers
Greetings --
There are some very important reasons that an OEM license
costs so much less than a retail license. OEM licenses are very
limited:
1) OEM versions must be sold with a piece of hardware (normally
a motherboard or hard drive, if not an entire PC, although Microsoft
has greatly relaxed the hardware criteria for WinXP) and are
_permanently_ bound to the first PC on which they are installed. An
OEM license, once installed, is not legally transferable to another
computer under any circumstances. This is the best reason to avoid
OEM versions; if the PC dies or is otherwise disposed of (even
stolen), you cannot re-use your OEM license on a new PC. The only
legitimate way to transfer the ownership of an OEM license is to
transfer ownership of the entire PC.
2) Microsoft provides no support for OEM versions. If you have
any problems that require outside assistance, your only recourse is to
contact the manufacturer/builder of the PC or the vendor of the OEM
license. This would include such issues as lost a Product Key or
replacing damaged installation media. (Microsoft does make allowances
for those instances when you can prove that the OEM has gone out of
business.) This doesn't mean that you can't download patches and
service packs from Microsoft -- just no free telephone or email
support for problems with the OS.
3) An OEM CD cannot be used to perform an upgrade of an earlier
OS, as it was designed to be installed _only_ upon an empty hard
drive. It can still be used to perform a repair installation (a.k.a.
an in-place upgrade) of an existing WinXP installation.
4) If the OEM CD was designed by a specific manufacturer, such as
eMachines, Sony, Dell, Gateway, etc., it will most likely only install
on the same brand of PC, as an additional anti-piracy feature.
Further, such CDs are severely customized to contain only the minimum
of device drivers, and a lot of extra nonsense, that the manufacturer
feels necessary for the specific model of PC for which the CD was
designed. (To be honest, such CDs should not be available on the open
market; but, if you're shopping someplace like eBay, swap meets, or
computer fairs, there's often no telling what you're buying until it's
too late.) The "generic" OEM CDs, such as are manufactured by
Microsoft and sold to small systems builders, don't have this
particular problem, though, and are pretty much the same as their
retail counterparts, apart from the licensing, support, and upgrading
restrictions.
Bruce Chambers
--
Help us help you:
You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on
having both at once. -- RAH
There are some very important reasons that an OEM license
costs so much less than a retail license. OEM licenses are very
limited:
1) OEM versions must be sold with a piece of hardware (normally
a motherboard or hard drive, if not an entire PC, although Microsoft
has greatly relaxed the hardware criteria for WinXP) and are
_permanently_ bound to the first PC on which they are installed. An
OEM license, once installed, is not legally transferable to another
computer under any circumstances. This is the best reason to avoid
OEM versions; if the PC dies or is otherwise disposed of (even
stolen), you cannot re-use your OEM license on a new PC. The only
legitimate way to transfer the ownership of an OEM license is to
transfer ownership of the entire PC.
2) Microsoft provides no support for OEM versions. If you have
any problems that require outside assistance, your only recourse is to
contact the manufacturer/builder of the PC or the vendor of the OEM
license. This would include such issues as lost a Product Key or
replacing damaged installation media. (Microsoft does make allowances
for those instances when you can prove that the OEM has gone out of
business.) This doesn't mean that you can't download patches and
service packs from Microsoft -- just no free telephone or email
support for problems with the OS.
3) An OEM CD cannot be used to perform an upgrade of an earlier
OS, as it was designed to be installed _only_ upon an empty hard
drive. It can still be used to perform a repair installation (a.k.a.
an in-place upgrade) of an existing WinXP installation.
4) If the OEM CD was designed by a specific manufacturer, such as
eMachines, Sony, Dell, Gateway, etc., it will most likely only install
on the same brand of PC, as an additional anti-piracy feature.
Further, such CDs are severely customized to contain only the minimum
of device drivers, and a lot of extra nonsense, that the manufacturer
feels necessary for the specific model of PC for which the CD was
designed. (To be honest, such CDs should not be available on the open
market; but, if you're shopping someplace like eBay, swap meets, or
computer fairs, there's often no telling what you're buying until it's
too late.) The "generic" OEM CDs, such as are manufactured by
Microsoft and sold to small systems builders, don't have this
particular problem, though, and are pretty much the same as their
retail counterparts, apart from the licensing, support, and upgrading
restrictions.
Bruce Chambers
--
Help us help you:
You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on
having both at once. -- RAH
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Alex Nichol
Brian said:What's the difference between oem and retail versions of windows xp?
Function is same, but support issues?
An OEM version
1. Will only install clean, not as an upgrade over an existing system
2. All support (other than access to Windows Update) is the
responsibility of the OEM vendor - MSoft will not provide any. JUdge
how much the vendor is likely to provide.
3. It may exclude some minor 'value added' items, notably NTBackup on a
Home Edition one
4. Most importantly - it is licensed solely to the machine where first
installed, and may never be transferred onward (as a retail one can)
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Opinicus
Alex Nichol said:4. Most importantly - it is licensed solely to the machine where
first installed, and may never be transferred onward (as a retail one
can)
However it does qualify for upgrading, does it not?
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