OEM Software In General

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Tom Foolery

I was told that OEM software is essentially the same as retail version.
It's the license (read product key) that defines the OEM vs. retail status.
For instance, if you have an OEM version of WinXP and purchased a product
key from Microsoft to install the software, then you would not be subject to
the OEM restrictions. Is that correct, or is there something inherently
different in OEM software.
 
G

GK

Tom said:
I was told that OEM software is essentially the same as retail version.
It's the license (read product key) that defines the OEM vs. retail status.
For instance, if you have an OEM version of WinXP and purchased a product
key from Microsoft to install the software, then you would not be subject to
the OEM restrictions. Is that correct, or is there something inherently
different in OEM software.

Somebody posted an excellent response to this question on one of the
newsgroups a few days ago. It basically boils down to support. Microsoft
won't support OEM, rather your PC manufacturer will. Also, the OEM sticks
with the computer it came on, whereas on the full retail version, you can
remove it from one computer and re-install it on a different computer.
 
C

Carey Frisch [MVP]

Should you purchase an OEM license version of XP?
http://www.tek-tips.com/gfaqs.cfm/pid/779/fid/4004

OEM versions of Windows XP:

-- cannot upgrade over an existing Windows installation
-- cannot be transferred to a different computer in the future
-- the license cannot be sold or transferred to another user
-- are not eligible for free Microsoft technical support
-- must be purchased with some type of computer hardware
-- cost less than "retail versions" due to the above limitations

P.S. A "retail Product Key" will not work at all with an OEM CD.
Microsoft does not sell additional OEM Product Keys either.

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User

Be Smart! Protect your PC!
http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/

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| I was told that OEM software is essentially the same as retail version.
| It's the license (read product key) that defines the OEM vs. retail status.
| For instance, if you have an OEM version of WinXP and purchased a product
| key from Microsoft to install the software, then you would not be subject to
| the OEM restrictions. Is that correct, or is there something inherently
| different in OEM software.
|
|
 
G

GK

Tom said:
I was told that OEM software is essentially the same as retail version.
It's the license (read product key) that defines the OEM vs. retail status.
For instance, if you have an OEM version of WinXP and purchased a product
key from Microsoft to install the software, then you would not be subject to
the OEM restrictions. Is that correct, or is there something inherently
different in OEM software.

...........courtesy of Bruce Chambers:

Greetings --

There are some very important reasons that an OEM license costs so
much less than a retail license. OEM licenses are very limited:

1) OEM versions must be sold with a piece of hardware (normally
a motherboard or hard drive, if not an entire PC, although Microsoft
has greatly relaxed the hardware criteria for WinXP) and are
_permanently_ bound to the first PC on which they are installed. An
OEM license, once installed, is not legally transferable to another
computer under any circumstances. This is the main reason some people
avoid OEM versions; if the PC dies or is otherwise disposed of (even
stolen), you cannot re-use your OEM license on a new PC. The only
legitimate way to transfer the ownership of an OEM license is to
transfer ownership of the entire PC.

2) Microsoft provides no free support for OEM versions. If you
have any problems that require outside assistance, your only recourse
is to contact the manufacturer/builder of the PC or the vendor of the
OEM license. This would include such issues as lost a Product Key or
replacing damaged installation media. (Microsoft does make allowances
for those instances when you can prove that the OEM has gone out of
business.) This doesn't mean that you can't download patches and
service packs from Microsoft -- just no free telephone or email
support for problems with the OS.

3) An OEM CD cannot be used to perform an upgrade of an earlier
OS, as it was designed to be installed _only_ upon an empty hard
drive. It can still be used to perform a repair installation (a.k.a.
an in-place upgrade) of an existing WinXP installation.

4) If the OEM CD was designed by a specific manufacturer, such as
eMachines, Sony, Dell, Gateway, etc., it will most likely only install
on the same brand of PC, as an additional anti-piracy feature.
Further, such CDs are severely customized to contain only the minimum
of device drivers, and a lot of extra nonsense, that the manufacturer
feels necessary for the specific model of PC for which the CD was
designed. (To be honest, such CDs should _not_ be available on the
open market; but, if you're shopping someplace like eBay, swap meets,
or computer fairs, there's often no telling what you're buying until
it's too late.) The "generic" OEM CDs, such as are manufactured by
Microsoft and sold to small systems builders, don't have this
particular problem, though, and are pretty much the same as their
retail counterparts, apart from the licensing, support, and upgrading
restrictions.
 
B

Bruce Chambers

Greetings --

Whomever told you that should probably stick to flipping burgers.

Product Keys are bound to the specific type and language of
CD/license (OEM, Volume, retail, full, or Upgrade) with which they are
purchased. For example, a WinXP Home OEM Product Key won't work for
any retail version of WinXP Home, or for any version of WinXP Pro, and
vice versa. An upgrade's Product Key cannot be used with a full
version CD, and vice versa. An OEM Product Key will not work to
install a retail product. An Italian Product Key will not work with
an English CD. Product Keys and CDs cannot be mixed & matched.


Bruce Chambers

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T

Tom Foolery

Thanks, Bruce. There is a lot of misunderstanding and "urban myth" swirling
around the issue of OEM software and licensing. The person who told me this
is just one of those people who (in my humble opinion) needs others to
believe he knows more than he does, and this "explanation", quite frankly,
almost seemed possible.
 
P

Papa

In addition to what other posters have already said, I think that when "OEM"
software is discussed, it usually - if not always - is with reference to
operating system software. I've never seen, for example, an OEM version of
Microsoft Office.
 
B

Bruce Chambers

Greetings --

You're welcome. And, in your informants defense, there may well
have been a time when a retail Product Key might have worked with an
OEM CD. Software piracy wasn't always as wide-spread as it is today.
If so, however, it was before my time.

Bruce Chambers

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Bruce Chambers

Greetings --

A great many PC vendors supply OEM applications, such as
Microsoft's Works, or Microsoft's Office suite or Corel's WordPerfect,
as OEM installations. In fact, until quite recently, one version of
Microsoft Office - the Office Small Business Edition - was available
_only_ as an OEM-bundled suite. This is part of the reason so many
posters seem surprised that their new WinXP PC doesn't have Word or
spell-checking; their older PCs came bundled with such applications,
and they assumed that the apps were part and parcel of the OS. The
practice of bundling in OEM applications is now on the decline, as
OEM's struggle to produce and sell PCs for farther and farther under
$1000, while cutting costs enough to still provide a profit margin.


Bruce Chambers

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J

Jupiter Jones [MVP]

Which actually has a negative effect for some buyers.
The OEM saves $10 - $25 (just a guess), passes savings to consumers
who in turn buy the same product retail.
But still the consumers sometimes feel they saved on the computer.
 
P

Papa

Thanks for the enlightenment, Bruce and Jupiter.

I always go for retail on all software, and build my own PCs, so I am not
all that familiar with anything labeled "OEM".
 
J

Jupiter Jones [MVP]

OEM can be a good thing...as long as people realize what they are
getting.
If only they would ask and search for the correct answer to "Why is
this so much cheaper? Surely it is not only the packaging?"
I also prefer retail for the flexibility.
 
B

Bruce Chambers

Greetings --

You're welcome.

Bruce Chambers

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