Oem cd clarification requested

G

Guest

Direct quote from the OEM license agreement dated August 2005:

Paragraph 4.1 - Software Distribution

"If the individual software license is a desktop operating system,
we (Microsoft) grant you a nonexclusive right to distribute individual
software licenses; provided that each one is distributed with either
(a) a 'fully assembled computer system' or (b) a 'non-peripheral computer
hardware component'. A 'fully assembled computer system' means a
computer system consisting of at least a central processing unit,
a motherboard, a hard drive, a power supply, and a case.
A 'non-peripheral computer hardware component' means a component
that will be an integral part of the fully assembled computer system
on which the individual license will be installed."

[end of quote]

If you are a registered Microsoft OEM System Builder, you can
read the entire licensing agreement here:
http://www.microsoft.com/oem/sblicense/default.mspx
 
G

Gary S. Terhune

Don't you think that posting the same post to the same thread three times is
going just a bit overboard, Carey?
 
M

Mike M

You do appear to have problems in understanding that what applies in the
US may or may not apply elsewhere. Simple really but apparently something
that' appears to be way beyond your ability to comprehend. Instead you
fallback on boring everyone but repeatedly cutting and pasting the same
message irrespective of its applicability.
 
A

Alias

Carey Frisch said:
This is a direct quote from the OEM license agreement dated August 2005:

Paragraph 4.1 - Software Distribution

"If the individual software license is a desktop operating system,
we (Microsoft) grant you a nonexclusive right to distribute individual
software licenses; provided that each one is distributed with either
(a) a 'fully assembled computer system' or (b) a 'non-peripheral computer
hardware component'. A 'fully assembled computer system' means a
computer system consisting of at least a central processing unit,
a motherboard, a hard drive, a power supply, and a case.
A 'non-peripheral computer hardware component' means a component
that will be an integral part of the fully assembled computer system
on which the individual license will be installed."

[end of quote]

If you are a registered Microsoft OEM System Builder, you can
read the entire licensing agreement here:
http://www.microsoft.com/oem/sblicense/default.mspx

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User
Microsoft Newsgroups

Um, mine doesn't say that, either in English or Spanish. Remember, Carey,
you are posting on an international board, not in "America". So, when you
try to give advice, check everything out, not just what's in your Favorites
folder.

Alias
 
A

Alias

That is an agreement between MS and builders like Dell, you moron!

Individual builders that build their own computers DO NOT have to buy
hardware with their XP purchase in all countries and in the USA, you can get
them with a mouse like at Walmarts, the url of which I already posted and
you chose to ignore that and spam the newsgroup with an irrevelant post.

Alias
 
S

Steve N.

kurttrail said:
The answer to that more general question would be no.

At least M$ tries to patch the holes in their OSes and programs as they
are revealed. Too bad the same can't be said for their MVP program.

:)

Steve
 
F

Frank

It has been my experience with activating OEM the only two
things that _Microsoft_ wants to know is if the OEM came
preinstalled and if it is installed on one machine.
I don't know where these people are coming up with all this
hoo haa about this.

Mike M said:
You do appear to have problems in understanding that what applies in the
US may or may not apply elsewhere. Simple really but apparently something
that' appears to be way beyond your ability to comprehend. Instead you
fallback on boring everyone but repeatedly cutting and pasting the same
message irrespective of its applicability.
--
Mike Maltby
(e-mail address removed)


Carey Frisch said:
Direct quote from the OEM license agreement dated August 2005:

Paragraph 4.1 - Software Distribution

"If the individual software license is a desktop operating system,
we (Microsoft) grant you a nonexclusive right to distribute individual
software licenses; provided that each one is distributed with either
(a) a 'fully assembled computer system' or (b) a 'non-peripheral
computer hardware component'. A 'fully assembled computer system'
means a computer system consisting of at least a central processing
unit,
a motherboard, a hard drive, a power supply, and a case.
A 'non-peripheral computer hardware component' means a component
that will be an integral part of the fully assembled computer system
on which the individual license will be installed."

[end of quote]

If you are a registered Microsoft OEM System Builder, you can
read the entire licensing agreement here:
http://www.microsoft.com/oem/sblicense/default.mspx
 
F

Frank

Just plumb dumb....

Alias said:
LOL! No, Carey, you are wrong. Walmart isn't exactly a small store and I
don't see MS doing jack sh*t about it, do you? Why is it so difficult for
you to admit you made a mistake? Ego?

Alias
 
K

kurttrail

Steve said:
At least M$ tries to patch the holes in their OSes and programs as
they are revealed. Too bad the same can't be said for their MVP
program.
:)

LOL! Any patch would get sucked into the black hole that is Carey.

The wisest course of action would to try not to feed anymore matter into
the Carey black hole, so it doesn't grow in mass and totally dominate
this part of the Milky Way.

--
Peace!
Kurt
Self-anointed Moderator
microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
http://microscum.com/mscommunity
"Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"
 
G

Guest

Anyone that wishes to purchase and distribute Microsoft OEM licenses must
register as a "System Builder" with Microsoft, regardless if they really
never intend to build a computer. The license agreement I referenced is what
the registered System Builder agreed to. If they choose to discredit their
veracity by ignoring what they agreed to, then they have an ethical issue.
If Walmart wants you to purchase a mouse, instead of a 5 cent internal audio
cable, then they have an "ethical issue" since they are forcing you to spend
more money then you really have to in order to comply with the agreement.

The System Builder agreement reads the same, regardless of the country the
System Builder resides in. I just translated the Spanish version and it
reads the same as the English version.
 
D

David Candy

No I don't think it is. Microsoft has a habit of sleazy behaviour. In fact they will choose sleaze even if not to their advantage. They KNOW about this (and have for over a year). Yet they do nothing.
 
W

Warlock

Mike said:
Correction:

The EU certainly does have strict IP and contract laws however these
are not those of the US, a country that despite pretensions to the
contrary, does not as yet rule the world...


Thanks for giving at least one American citizen a very hearty laugh. ;)
 
D

David Candy

A cable doesn't qualify. As Walmart is selling something they are not allowed to therefore they can't license. Therefore all walmart customers are pirates.
 
G

Gary S. Terhune

You lost me, David. What "sleazy behavior" are you referring to? That MS
doesn't enforce its own licensing in the OEM arena? Or what?

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User

"David Candy" <.> wrote in message
No I don't think it is. Microsoft has a habit of sleazy behaviour. In fact
they will choose sleaze even if not to their advantage. They KNOW about this
(and have for over a year). Yet they do nothing.
 
D

David Candy

Well there is a lot but I was specifically refering to ripping off honest customers by being too scared to take on walmart.
 
K

kurttrail

David said:
Well there is a lot but I was specifically refering to ripping off
honest customers by being too scared to take on walmart.

MS will not rock the boat with any major US corporation until they
aren't under the watchful eye of US anti-trust regulators.

--
Peace!
Kurt
Self-anointed Moderator
microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
http://microscum.com/mscommunity
"Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"
 
G

Gary S. Terhune

Thanks! Just wanted to be clear.
--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User

"David Candy" <.> wrote in message
Well there is a lot but I was specifically refering to ripping off honest
customers by being too scared to take on walmart.
 
D

David Candy

I feel sorry for Carey and others. MS manipulates them but won't stand up for themselves.
 

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