NTFS Permissions allow deletion of file under any account at all times?

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WakA

Hello,

i was wondering if the following behavior is an NTFS/Winxp bug or just
misunderstood behavior from my part.
Behavior is as follows,

create a file, remove inherited permissions in advanced pane
add full acces to current user/owner of the file
add full deny to a test user (limited access user)

login under test user (or fast user switch)
moving of the file and all operations is not possible, however when going to
command console and doing a manual del or shift+delling the file results in
removal of the file. Which in my view would be against the predicted
behavior? If i could get an affirmation of this behavior or an explanation i
would be very grateful.

Regards,

Chris
 
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Admiral Q

What do you mean - command console? The command prompt or recovery console?
Where are you doing a "shift+del"? The "full deny" was it done to just the
file or the whole directory? When you unchecked the inherited permissions,
was it on the file or the directory? If you did just the directory, did you
also check the "replace permission entries on all child objects with
entries.."? Are you sure you hit OK during each step?

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W

WakA

I meant command prompt, sorry for the mixup.
I'm doing shift+del (or actually just del, since i changed a regkey to make
del do the same as shift+del, but this shouldn't make a difference..should
it? o_O) (i'll check after this post)
Full deny and full access was done on just the file, i've just repeated my
steps and made sure i pressed apply every step of the way.
Moving/copying/reading the file still doesn't work under test-account,
delete still does.
 
W

WakA

The Weirdness (tm) continues.
after disable NukeOnDelete at
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\BitBucket
when asked if you want to move the file to the recycle bin and pressing yes,
explorer simply (i suspect) tries to move the file (fails, without warning)
and deletes the original so in effect still deleting the file entirely. I
think my system must be b0rked (also tm).

(10 minutes later..)
ok i checked on a relatively fresh install on another system..same deal, it
just deletes the file so it must be either a normal thing, or a grossly
overlooked bug? When i _deny_ any access to a particular user, it shouldn't
be able to delete it! what's going on..
 

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